samk090905 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 ek or synergy: would you guys be so wise as to enlighten us with your wisdom as to how to use the swiss army ea with crazy hedger please? i think; that would really assist all of us. thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ ekilibrium Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 ek or synergy: would you guys be so wise as to enlighten us with your wisdom as to how to use the swiss army ea with crazy hedger please? i think; that would really assist all of us. thank you, please start reading the Thread from the 25th page. :) vaselon and paws 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samk090905 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 will do....again. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paws Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Thanks for sharing elki. Could you please PM the EA to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxiron Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hi Ekilibrium, would you be so kind to send me your EA? Thanks in advance, Oxiron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortuna1713006009 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 CrazyH This EA is created only for long positions, only for buy to get profit. When you will go together with bulls you will get profit. If the trend is bearish your account gets big loss when you have 120 positions open. Swiss Army can help to close orders but you have to be with the bull trend. Am I right? For sure you need Swiss Army or Script or second EA to close orders to get new ones but you will profit only if you are going with bull trend with this Crazy Hedger. You need your own good strategy to know if there is bull trend. To do so you have to be a good Trader. To be only Lucky with this EA is not enough, after big profit you will lose very fast. You have to have good strategy as a base for this EA. Than you can be a Millionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Fortuna, You are right for the most part, except that the CrazyHedger works for both long and short position. It uses hedging to determine direction before opening maximum number of trades. As I mentioned earlier, the risk is after multiple position is opened, the direction changed. Otherwise, the EAs are working. Obviously you need to have enough pips before Swiss Army can close the trades for you, else all trades will open and losing swaps. So this EA works best with a pair that has enough daily range (at least 100 pip - 150 pips movement) for you to take advantage of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noziggity81 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 I would be very grateful if you could send me the EA too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamamike Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Fortuna, You are right for the most part, except that the CrazyHedger works for both long and short position. It uses hedging to determine direction before opening maximum number of trades. As I mentioned earlier, the risk is after multiple position is opened, the direction changed. Otherwise, the EAs are working. Obviously you need to have enough pips before Swiss Army can close the trades for you, else all trades will open and losing swaps. So this EA works best with a pair that has enough daily range (at least 100 pip - 150 pips movement) for you to take advantage of. Synergy..... What broker are us using for this ea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Personally I am using Alpari UK. However, you can use other brokers that support hedging. It will be very helpful if more people can contribute to which broker they encounter success with the EA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamamike Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Personally I am using Alpari UK. However, you can use other brokers that support hedging. It will be very helpful if more people can contribute to which broker they encounter success with the EA. I have tried thiis with fxcmuk. Hedging iis no problem there. However, when I run this EA, it closes the trades in profit and reopens new positions. Using the setting maxbuy=3 and maxsell=3; it opens 3 buys and 3 sells to start the position. But when the TP is hit, it closes and reopens 3 new positions. The trade always stays with 3 long and 3 short, thus losing the spread and commission with each trade. It never opens mulltiple buys (more than 3) if the long TP is hit. I do not understand why it acts differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfx Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Personally I am using Alpari UK. However, you can use other brokers that support hedging. It will be very helpful if more people can contribute to which broker they encounter success with the EA. sinergy, you are giving us great contribution to crazy EA. I'm trying to use swiss army but not yet fully understand its operation. I'm using as a broker fxsalt once you have something new with it to be profitable I will post here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortuna1713006009 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) Maybe I am wrong of course this EA opens for short positions as well but it is not as much orders as 120 for long. In this case it works only for bull trend. Maximum orders it opens only for long. Am I right ? I tested it many times in MT4 tester. Edited April 21, 2010 by Fortuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfx Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Maybe I am wrong of course this EA opens for short positions as well but it is not as much orders as 120 for long. In this case it works only for bull trend. Maximum orders it opens only for long. Am I right ? I tested it many times in MT4 tester. you put 120 to buy and sell? works perfectly here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 From what I have noticed, currently the GBPUSD is trending up, that is why most of the trades reported are bull orders. We can only wait for time to tell when the GBPUSD is going on bear trend. However, in my forward test, it does open 120 bear trades for a short period of few hours before the trend go back bull sometime yesterday ... http://crazy.mt4live.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clovelly Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 I do not see what the fuss is about, or why you still want to test the EA. The EA, which has been shared on page 10, 1. does not do any hedging 2. does not determine the trend to filter long/short entries All it does is: 1. if number of long trades is less than max_orderbuy, then it will buy (with no other entry criteria) 2. if number of short trades is less than max_ordersell, then it will sell (with no other entry criteria) So, if you set the max_orderbuy to 0 (because you think the trend is DOWN), then the EA will SELL only. Vice versa for BUY only. It all comes down to: YOU have to determine what the trend is. If your thinking is correct, you win. Otherwise, you blow your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortuna1713006009 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hmm... I see that most of your multi sell orders are nonprofit from your crazy.mt4live. Just think why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 The bear trend is short lived. On top of that, I was testing Swiss Army EA during that period of time, thus the negative result ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 clovelly, My initial intention is to blown my demo account, but so far my objective have not achieved. BTW, I don't determine the trend, just let the EA run as the initial buy and sell orders are equal ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortuna1713006009 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) Try to count orders for long and for short. You will see in which direction it always works. Long always win. I have tool in MT4 to count orders for short and for long. Long are non stop orders in this EA. EA closes short positions by the code, but for long you have to do it manually. Edited April 22, 2010 by Fortuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) Fortuna, I am not too sure what you are talking about. I have looked into the code and I found the following case [color="#0000ff"]OP_BUY[/color]: if(OrderMagicNumber()==magic_buy){ if(([color="#0000ff"]Ask[/color]>(OrderOpenPrice()+tp*point))||([color="#0000ff"]Ask[/color]<(OrderOpenPrice()-sl*point))){ [color="#0000ff"]OrderClose[/color](OrderTicket(), OrderLots(),[color="#0000ff"]Ask[/color],slippage,Silver);a--;gle=GetLastError();} if(gle==1) c++; if(c>10){Print("giving up to close [color="#0000ff"]buy[/color] order. error: ",ErrorDescription(gle)); return(gle);}} case [color="#ff0000"]OP_SELL[/color]: if(OrderMagicNumber()==magic_sell){ if(([color="#ff0000"]Bid[/color]<(OrderOpenPrice()-tp*point))||([color="#ff0000"]Bid[/color]>(OrderOpenPrice()+sl*point))){ [color="#ff0000"]OrderClose[/color](OrderTicket(), OrderLots(),[color="#ff0000"]Ask[/color],slippage,Silver);A--;gle=GetLastError();} if(gle==1) d++; if(d>10){Print("giving up to close [b][color="#0000ff"]buy[/color][/b] order. error: ",ErrorDescription(gle)); return(gle);}} I am not a programmer, though willing to learn, what I see is that they have almost identical syntax from the code above that I assume is the trade closing codes, Bid for buy trade and Ask for sell trade, except a typo in the sell line that I blue up which suppose to be sell, but that is a description. I would like to learn as from which code that you can tell, EA closes short positions by the code, but for long you have to do it manually. Edited April 22, 2010 by synergy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 a 'dumb' (ie no real logic) EA with coding errors gets 30 pages. this is more a lesson in human behaviour than currency market trading. Astarfleir and synergy 2 Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Humans are drive by greed and laziness. It is the right timing and human weakness that drive this thread to 30 pages. Else, it will gone within the first page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortuna1713006009 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) Synergy. Change in the code this way you will see something what helps you understand more this EA. Change and run in MT4 tester to see how it works if you want to have some fun. case OP_BUY: if(OrderMagicNumber()==magic_buy){ if((Ask>(OrderOpenPrice()+tp*point))||(Ask<(OrderOpenPrice()-sl*point))){ OrderClose(OrderTicket(), OrderLots(),Bid,slippage,Silver);a--;gle=GetLastError();} if(gle==1) c++; if(c>10){Print("giving up to close buy order. error: ",ErrorDescription(gle)); return(gle);}} By the way in order to have Crazy Hedger to run for you for bearish market you have to make similar second EA based on this code with small change. From the code I noticed that man who wrote this EA is fom Indonesia. His name is Totom Suko Pratomo. His name is on another forex forum. Clovelly made a good point: So, if you set the max_orderbuy to 0 (because you think the trend is DOWN), then the EA will SELL only. Vice versa for BUY only. Yes it will sell only but not putting multi non stop position. Just check by yourself. Finally conclusion: YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE BULL TREND TO GET PROFIT from this EA. Edited April 22, 2010 by Fortuna synergy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serghijht fdedcgyh Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Hello, please send me the EA in this thread. [email protected] thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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