Astronomy Trading "Trading with the Stars"

[navotna]

Hi Navotna,

 

Thanks for your inputs. You seem pretty knowledgeable about astro and nn etc. On astro, I've often wondered why at times the signals can be good, yet fail completely at other times. How to know when to trust them, therefore. In my quest, on a vedic astrology site, I came upon planetary "horas". These are apparently times within the 24 hours when each planet exerts its influence on the earth. So I got to thinking, perhaps the reason why sometimes planetary signals are inaccurate is because those planets are weak at that time of the day, and could also explain why at some times the signals are good.

 

Try as I might, I have not been able to locate any website that publishes hora for the day. I for one would love to check this out. Do you think this little theory could hold water? Importantly, do you know how I can get hold of hora for the day?

 

Thanks

Pardy

 

 

Dear Pardy,

 

I am very busy. Just give me some time, I will post all the info. you wanted. (May be at this weekend).

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

[tgt123]

Thanks Uncle pips how can we "forward" test "The reliability" of E.g: The Uranus--Neptune. ( Astro Composite ) since when we move backward the LBC those astro projection turning point not at the same point anymore? And what is the Harmonic (1H-100H) we chose for gold daily Uranus-Neptune? And how about Sun and Venus as Bill Foster suggest http://technical-analysis-addins.com/astro-bill-foster.php

 

Thanks

 

Regard

 

tgt123

 

Hi Fmfx,

 

If you're training gold on an Astro Model, you need to understand the planets that control metal. As I previously posted, if you're an investor buying/selling gold in a long term set TS "Astronomy Composite" to Uranus-Neptune, Helio not Geo. As these two planets control gold and silver characters. Use it as a long term trend prediction-setting.

 

On a day-trading environment, let it be 2M, 5M, 15M or 60M, open up Neural tap, go to "Aspects" select Mercury, Sun, Moon, Venus and Neptune. Please train them with Relative Price Oscillator or RPO. The setting for RPO is MA1, keep it with the default number, MA2 change the default 50 to 70, MA3, change 50 to 30..

 

Spectrum "Cycle" Model, again use the same setting for RPO. However, when you're running your most active cycles selection, I found out that there are only two settings that give me better result. If you use too little amount of cycles, you won't get that many signals to trade with. If you selective too many active cycles, you'll get more false signals. Let me give you three numbers, 5, 8, and 13. Maybe 12 too. Test on 5 cycles, 8 Cycles, etc....

 

I am at my regular job that's why I can't post any picture for that.

 

Regards,

Unclepips

[smartvin]

Hi abdob

 

Still link (#538) is valid

[Unclepips]

Thanks Uncle pips how can we "forward" test "The reliability" of E.g: The Uranus--Neptune. ( Astro Composite ) since when we move backward the LBC those astro projection turning point not at the same point anymore? And what is the Harmonic (1H-100H) we chose for gold daily Uranus-Neptune? And how about Sun and Venus as Bill Foster suggest http://technical-analysis-addins.com/astro-bill-foster.php

 

Thanks

 

Regard

 

tgt123

 

Hi tgt123,

 

Bill Foster is a pro who has an impeccable astro experience in his head. I CANNOT come even a hair size close to his understanding. Sorry about that. Tim Bost is another guy that you might be aware of also. These two names that came to my mind do use Venus as one of the planets for Gold. However, in my study from other authors and books, I am comfortable with Uranus-Neptune as a LONG TERM directional purpose. I do also mentioned using Venus, Neptune, Mercury, Sun, etc... for short term or perhaps trigger planets. If you look back I think, to post # 241 gold daily chart up until now it has a good comfortable prediction. And that's the setting that I suggested now. Trading with Astro just like any other technical indicators once you find a comfortable setting that provides you good trading setup, you are edged over others! Your point about LBC, if you don't mind please show me the chart, if I could answer you, I will. If not, Navotna has been great with this thread. He is much much more advanced than me with that regards and Astro.

 

With best regards,

Unclepips

[tgt123]

Thanks Unclepips for the explanation.. please check the attached 2 images, how do we check the "reliability" , I meant can we "fixed" the projection astro compoiste line projection? Since when we moved the LBS backward or forward those projection also change as shown on 2 images...

 

Thanks

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2538/35693631.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7193/54789009.jpg

Edited July 18, 2012 by tgt123

[tgt123]

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Edited July 18, 2012 by tgt123

[Fmfx]

Hi Fmfx,

 

If you're training gold on an Astro Model, you need to understand the planets that control metal. As I previously posted, if you're an investor buying/selling gold in a long term set TS "Astronomy Composite" to Uranus-Neptune, Helio not Geo. As these two planets control gold and silver characters. Use it as a long term trend prediction-setting.

 

On a day-trading environment, let it be 2M, 5M, 15M or 60M, open up Neural tap, go to "Aspects" select Mercury, Sun, Moon, Venus and Neptune. Please train them with Relative Price Oscillator or RPO. The setting for RPO is MA1, keep it with the default number, MA2 change the default 50 to 70, MA3, change 50 to 30..

 

Spectrum "Cycle" Model, again use the same setting for RPO. However, when you're running your most active cycles selection, I found out that there are only two settings that give me better result. If you use too little amount of cycles, you won't get that many signals to trade with. If you selective too many active cycles, you'll get more false signals. Let me give you three numbers, 5, 8, and 13. Maybe 12 too. Test on 5 cycles, 8 Cycles, etc....

 

I am at my regular job that's why I can't post any picture for that.

 

Regards,

Unclepips

 

Thank you very much Unclepips, i did get that of the NN but couldnt get that of 2ro correctly, at your leisure pls kindly post some images explaining step one, i promise not to trouble you again :D.

 

Regards

Edited July 18, 2012 by Fmfx

[⭐ kesk]

Hi tgt123/Unclepips/Navtona,

 

In an attempt to find good equity curve for a given combination of planets, i noted down them with an arbitrary LBC. Next day when i tried the same combination, the equity curve was different. I checked my notes and found that the LBC this time was different. So i shifted the LBC at various positions and sure enough the equity curve changes with each LBC. I give below a sample for one combination with different LBC.

 

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6193/sunsungeo15h3.th.png

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5673/sunsungeo15h2.th.png

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6918/sunsungeo15h1.th.png

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3113/sunsungeo15h.th.png

 

Hence, in my opinion, LBC plays a major role in whatever combinations we use for astronomy and cycles. The simple and only vaild explanation for this according to Sergey is that at any given point of time, the influence of another planetary combination makes your current model weak. With cycles, there are dominant cycles at play at certain point of time. Hence the changes we get with shifting LBC.

 

So the only way out is, a combination of planet/cycle which gives a steady equity curve should be choose for your trading style. But this is an enormous task, requiring hours of checking and taking notes. I am tried using macros to automate the task, but due to screen size and other factors, its proving difficult.

 

If any one has other ideas how to automate, I welcome it: The steps are as follos:

 

1. Choose a combination of platnet like Sun Sun Geo 1H

2. Move LBC to last bar.

3. Shift the LBC may be 100 bars back from the last bar.

4. Again shift the LBC 200 bars from the last bar and so on with atleast 10 moves.

5. Now change the harmonic to 2H and repeat 2-4 and so on.

[tgt123]

Hi Kesk,

 

Maybe making this process auto by creating backtesting scenario at pic shown and save those setting to NN and run it.. Maybe we can find a good correlation... Procedure to have auto backtesting is here http://www.timingsolution.com/TS/Study/BT/.. We are not sure did unclespips and Navtona run this type or other backtesting every day or week?...

http://www.timingsolution.com/TS/Study/BT/bt_4.jpg

Edited July 18, 2012 by tgt123

[⭐ kesk]

tgt123,

 

Backtesting as described in TS is different from what I posted. BT requires a certain type of inputs, for this we change the LBC and see the results. What I mentioned in post was, if you change the LBC certainly your output prediction also changes. This is in response to your earlier post.

 

The 2nd part of my message is to find a good planetary combination, which gives a good straight equity line.

[navotna]

Dears,

 

Today Gold, Silver, GBP, Euro - All were bearish in London session.

 

Looking to buy gold and silver on dips.

Time is ripe to buy GBP and Euro and hence no more shorts (move with cautious approach).

 

Following are the images of today's trades.

 

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1631/euroshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/900/gbpshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3853/agshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4558/aushort18thjuly.gif

 

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

[Unclepips]

Hi tgt123/Unclepips/Navtona,

 

In an attempt to find good equity curve for a given combination of planets, i noted down them with an arbitrary LBC. Next day when i tried the same combination, the equity curve was different. I checked my notes and found that the LBC this time was different. So i shifted the LBC at various positions and sure enough the equity curve changes with each LBC. I give below a sample for one combination with different LBC.

 

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6193/sunsungeo15h3.th.png

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5673/sunsungeo15h2.th.png

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6918/sunsungeo15h1.th.png

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3113/sunsungeo15h.th.png

 

Hence, in my opinion, LBC plays a major role in whatever combinations we use for astronomy and cycles. The simple and only vaild explanation for this according to Sergey is that at any given point of time, the influence of another planetary combination makes your current model weak. With cycles, there are dominant cycles at play at certain point of time. Hence the changes we get with shifting LBC.

 

So the only way out is, a combination of planet/cycle which gives a steady equity curve should be choose for your trading style. But this is an enormous task, requiring hours of checking and taking notes. I am tried using macros to automate the task, but due to screen size and other factors, its proving difficult.

 

If any one has other ideas how to automate, I welcome it: The steps are as follos:

 

1. Choose a combination of platnet like Sun Sun Geo 1H

2. Move LBC to last bar.

3. Shift the LBC may be 100 bars back from the last bar.

4. Again shift the LBC 200 bars from the last bar and so on with atleast 10 moves.

5. Now change the harmonic to 2H and repeat 2-4 and so on.

 

Hi Kesk and All,

 

Thanks you very much for your explanation, Kesk. You saved us!

 

I've been with TimingSolution since, I think 2006 or 2007, and still couldn't get good result from it even with combination of astro planets and cycles. So I changed from using combination of astro planets to just selective planets that are relevant to that particular instrument. The trick to it all is in the harmonic numbers and cycles (to me once you found a perfect cycle (if there are such) with astro you are half way there). The other 1/4 is the harmonic. and of course the rest is from the over all aspect, which is the other 1/4. The lower the harmonic number the lower the time frame one needs to consider. Unless you are using it to predict a longer trend on a smaller time frame. Once you discovered the proper harmonic number, even if the market changes the next harmonic number is NOT that far from the previous one that you selected. That's why you see I have different harmonic number in the astro cycle that I selected quite often. How do you determine the correct harmonic number? Is there a way to confirm it? To my knowledge NO... not exactly! But how I use it is by go to Astronomy composite of astro planet that you have, select buy/sell signals tab. Look under sample training percentage. If you see 70% or above, your analysis is on its way to give you a better trading signal. What is the success rate by doing such? How do I know this? If you follow all the posts that I posted in here, you'll find the results.

 

http://i.imgur.com/XR6HZ.png

 

Best regards,

Unclepips

[Unclepips]

Dears,

 

Today Gold, Silver, GBP, Euro - All were bearish in London session.

 

Looking to buy gold and silver on dips.

Time is ripe to buy GBP and Euro and hence no more shorts (move with cautious approach).

 

Following are the images of today's trades.

 

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1631/euroshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/900/gbpshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3853/agshort18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4558/aushort18thjuly.gif

 

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

 

Hi,

 

Looks like you had lots of fun today during the European session!

 

I wish the site creator/s create live chat room for us all to come and share knowledge live, i.e., trading room. It would be nice to trade with such great traders in here.

 

With best regards,

Unclepips

[smartvin]

Hi Unclepipes & Novato thanks a lot both of you. Finally today I run the software in my computer. But I don’t know how to bring mercury cycle, Pluto sun line ect.,. I tried but I couldn’t get it.

Someone guide me please. How to setup the proper chart & what is the seetings.

 

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/12938/20120718-2wfc-177kb

[⭐ FFRT]

Can't we use Wave59 or Fibonacci Galactic Trader, instead of Timing Solutions?

 

What period Moving Average, do u use, in the above charts, and is it SMA or EMA or something else ?

[⭐ kesk]

Hi Unclepips,

 

Re your post in #587, I used the equity instead of buy/sell. What i was looking for is a 45degree angled equity curve with smaller drawdowns. I believe its certainly possible to get that kind of curve in TS. The only issue is choosing the right combinations from the so many permutation and combinations. Its a daunting task and consuming.

 

I am trying to automate the process. That way I can use it on many instruments.

 

Your post is informative.

[Unclepips]

Hi Unclepips,

 

Re your post in #587, I used the equity instead of buy/sell. What i was looking for is a 45degree angled equity curve with smaller drawdowns. I believe its certainly possible to get that kind of curve in TS. The only issue is choosing the right combinations from the so many permutation and combinations. Its a daunting task and consuming.

 

I am trying to automate the process. That way I can use it on many instruments.

 

Your post is informative.

 

Hi,

Yes, learning TS is quite a process and time consuming as you mentioned. But it can be quite rewarding. The truth is, I picked it and stored it a couple of times. And then picked it up again until now. It is a piece of great software that traders should have.

 

Regards,

Unclepips

[Unclepips]

Dears,

 

 

I strongly feel that at present moment this thread has been reduced to mere extracting the future trade images and getting information about entering the trades (in future time) from my dear Unclepips, who gets all this, from such a hard work that only a few can understand.

 

Most of the people don't want to learn in the process instead they want fully baked sweet bread directly inside their mouth and want to enjoy it without making any effort or doing the hard work required.

 

I ask a simple question - For how many days Unclepips will be able to supply you with this ready-made material ?

 

Everybody is asking for settings. Do you know that for getting perfect trade decision, each week one has to apply new settings for an individual FI. (For 15M Chart trading),

 

Please think about it and contribute something substantial to help the new ones, otherwise this thread is going to be soulless in a very short time.

 

May The God bless you all,

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

 

Hi Navotna,

 

I hope everything is OK with TS at your end.

 

Regards,

Unclepips

[Unclepips]

EUR/USD 15M July19-2012

 

TS Chart - See link: http://i.imgur.com/4Lfzc.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/4Lfzc.png

 

Wave59 Chart - See link: http://i.imgur.com/A5mO7.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/A5mO7.png

 

Regards,

Unclepips

[Unclepips]

Can't we use Wave59 or Fibonacci Galactic Trader, instead of Timing Solutions?

 

What period Moving Average, do u use, in the above charts, and is it SMA or EMA or something else ?

 

Hi FFRT,

 

I do use Fib/Galactic once in awhile. The only problem is my computer gives me problem when I open it. It takes me a long time to open the software up. But here is a chart for gold.

 

Regards,

Unclepips

 

For clarity go to link: http://i.imgur.com/QMzaD.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/QMzaD.png

[Unclepips]

Just sold EUR/USD at 10:54PM NYT at 1.2292 with a stop/loss 1.2303 and targeting at 1.2257.

 

Have a great trading day guys!

 

Regards,

Unclepips

[navotna]

Picture is too...but, here is how I do it.

1. Open any chart

2. Open spectrum from solutions or from the chart.

3. Run spectrum analyzer

4. on the analyzer chart, select those his/lows using your mouse to select

5. you should see the selected numbers.

6. click on Selected with red arrow. it should go to cycle box. Save it.

7. open neural net tab

8. click on the first yellow box (Step1) with neural net symbol

9. a folder named "price-vents master" appears. select "price indices" tab

10. under that tab select RPO (relative price oscillator)

11. change MA2 to 70 and MA3 to 50 (this section is one of the most important, (to ME) so you really have test out the numbers)

12. click ok

13. go to Step 2, click on neural net symbol

14. a folder called Neural Net criteria mast appears

15. down below, left of that folder, click open and find cycles that you saved and load them up. ciick ok.

16. Step 3: run/train it. make sure the correlation is at positive at above .700.

 

Dear smartvin,

 

I have just read your PM. Due to some family reasons I was not able to get inside my trading room since last almost 24 hours. Please read post no. 135, page 14, by my beloved Unclepips. He has explained it step by step, also use the settings as told by Unclepips in last few pages and in the process train and trade yourself, then you will make yourself aware about many things and will be able to apply your settings for many financial instruments. Even after doing all this if you are not able to set-up TS correctly then I am always at your service.

 

---And I will advice all the new people, to read this thread from the very beginning. It is all there and you have to make only little effort to get it and get TONS of pips.

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

[smartvin]

Thanks Novota. I followed the entire step now NN training running now. I am just wondering how long to take finish the process, its 15 min chart.

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/12938/20120719-2tze-240kb

Edited July 19, 2012 by smartvin

[navotna]

Dears,

 

Today Gold, Silver, GBP, Euro - All were bearish in London session.

 

Looking to buy gold and silver on dips.

Time is ripe to buy GBP and Euro and hence no more shorts (move with cautious approach).

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

 

Dears,

 

Because of some family reasons I was not inside my trading room for almost 24 hours.

 

I am saying sorry to all the folks who were expecting any reply from me and did not get it. Now I will reply each one by one.

 

BTW just after my quoted post I took longs in EURO, GOLD and Silver.

 

Below are the images of my last day's trade positions which are still open.

 

Since I was not in-front of my PC for about 21 H hence I was not able to close Euro/Usd at around 1.2320 last day. Euro is bullish at this moment and hence expected to breach 1.2300.

 

As I told earlier - July 2012 EURO range is 1.2150 - 1.2750 ( Bearish EURO), It has already gone to 1.2161, hence make a cautious approach while shorting EURO around this level.

 

As I am writing this Euro has gone past 1.2300.

 

Please see the Images -

 

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7384/eurolong18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2955/aglong18thjuly.gif

 

 

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6406/aulong18thjuly.gif

 

 

Regards,

 

Navotna,

[Unclepips]

Just sold EUR/USD at 10:54PM NYT at 1.2292 with a stop/loss 1.2303 and targeting at 1.2257.

 

Have a great trading day guys!

 

Regards,

Unclepips

 

Well, what do you know! A loss. Hopefully, I'll have a better day today. Unclepips