wakjoe Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 looks very interesting to me! thank you for this explanation munhatta. muhhatta 1
muhhatta Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 I have been readin and re-reading the intruction notes for about 6 hours and nothing is making sense to me. I think the author uses unproper english and does not know how to explain anything. He provides comentary instead of trying harder to explain his thought again such as "So this is not an idle thought to make the Ebook 'thicker' ". I get the impression that he is using complicated vocabulary to impress the reader, yet all it does is divert from actually explaining it. I know David posted that this system cannot be easily explained, however concept seems elementary to me albeit the trading system is still confusing for me. It looks like a simple crossover of guppy moving averages for triggers. I dont understand how to evaluate the triggers, Are they for long or short? And if the system claims 100%. What does seem interesting is having new timeframes such as 2h, 24h, 2w, m2 and fitting the chart in such manner that you will not have a false breakout above the MA's historically. And since we believe histroy will repeat itself, thus the candlesticks will resume back to it's original trend from the retrace. Please explain how Elliot waves ties into this stretegy. I will post the documents here, may be someone can transliterate for me in proper understandable english. It would be very kind of you if anybody can help explain this to me. main notes http://www.mediafire.com/file/d6mlij79j2r6mri/Instructions%20-%20print.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/2bzfn7mdfqbbymc/Instructions%20-%20Practical%20Use%20-.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/wsx1hv59glvuo1q/Instructions%20-%20Secondary%20Setup.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/dysj4ix4t66tjs5/Instructions%20-%20Trade%20Examples%20-.pdf other supplementary http://www.mediafire.com/file/0ihdap6ad4g5pv1/Introduction.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/rlzrwsdalbyuefv/New%20Keys.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/isffeiw9jxl9w6n/Setup.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/file/47im5m6475sf8a6/01Star%20Simple%20explanation.doc http://www.mediafire.com/file/47im5m6475sf8a6/01Star%20Simple%20explanation.doc Danyalati, Why does STAR book so difficult to be understand? IMO, its about Copy-writing. A book involving an author and an editor. We all know the good author but never know the good editor behind him/her. A brilliant writer who refuse his/her novel to be edited by editor would end up his/her novel in the trash can. A simple method being rewrite in an excellent copywriting skill and marketed by skilled marketer could attract hundreds of satisfied buyer. Any of you has been in internet marketing know this for sure. A brilliant inventor of an incredible system that no body has ever touch could write his own invention in the word of his own and end up with lot of question by the readers. A moderate Internet marketer could be smart enough to recognize the problem of the majority traders. We all know that most of the traders expecting a simple ****** system. It's usually a pair of slow/fast MA combine with RSI/MACD setting plus arrow. Such Internet Marketer even hire a good copywriter that can write the system in a hypnotic copywriting which produce an excellent result. At first they told you your problem and your (quick-rich as he/she had) expectation and offer you the solution (his/her system). All written in a hypnotic copywriting. Googl* it and you could find hundreds of it written in the same manner. Maybe Tom should have hired a good copywriter at first. But it is now no longer required. The explanation is now available in the member forum. Let me make this clear; You could only understand STAR from the original book but when you began to understand it you would demand more explanation. I know most of forum members expecting to have this system for free, but unfortunately you will only have 30% of the system from the package that illegally dispersed over the net while the rest is in the member area. Here are some details that you could come up (not clearly define by the book) and find the answer in the member area, maybe some of you notice maybe some put less importance yet very critical; -Criteria of the valid Main Vipot (book says: it must be a "jump out at you" main Pivot). -Criteria of valid prime stage (period orientation of MA before the flip causing move, otherwise apply 52s template). -Criteria of valid flip -Second stage confirmation -Exact definition of Cut (certain color of 13 cross 68) -Move After Cut (measuring parallel and steepening) -Pullback criteria (price should penetrate certain color) -Retracment criteria -Automatic no trade -Additional Setup to handle correction (CSA and 52s template), remember that correction posses 70% of the time in the market FYI, all that mention in the book was to handle just 30% of setup. Now we have CSA and 52s template to handle the rest 70% of setup. Honestly I favor CSA combine with 52s template since they occurred more often. So please be advised that its best to be a legal copy owner and have all the answer in the forum freakgib 1
⭐ c0py Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 thanks guys for your views, FYI I have just purchased a copy and gone premium! :) Read book and watched video, the video was most helpful and I am currently looking through the historical setup screenshots in premium area to familiarise myself with some setups. It would be nice to be able to get in to some setups at the same time as learning it so I will be looking further at how the watchlist works as it does look quite complicated :) freakgib 1
muhhatta Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Danyalati, Why does STAR book so difficult to be understand? IMO, its about Copy-writing. A book involving an author and an editor. We all know the good author but never know the good editor behind him/her. A brilliant writer who refuse his/her novel to be edited by editor would end up his/her novel in the trash can. A simple method being rewrite in an excellent copywriting skill and marketed by skilled marketer could attract hundreds of satisfied buyer. Any of you has been in internet marketing know this for sure. A brilliant inventor of an incredible system that no body has ever touch could write his own invention in the word of his own and end up with lot of question by the readers. A moderate Internet marketer could be smart enough to recognize the problem of the majority traders. We all know that most of the traders expecting a simple ****** system. It's usually a pair of slow/fast MA combine with RSI/MACD setting plus arrow. Such Internet Marketer even hire a good copywriter that can write the system in a hypnotic copywriting which produce an excellent result. At first they told you your problem and your (quick-rich as he/she had) expectation and offer you the solution (his/her system). All written in a hypnotic copywriting. Googl* it and you could find hundreds of it written in the same manner. Maybe Tom should have hired a good copywriter at first. But it is now no longer required. The explanation is now available in the member forum. Let me make this clear; You could only understand STAR from the original book but when you began to understand it you would demand more explanation. I know most of forum members expecting to have this system for free, but unfortunately you will only have 30% of the system from the package that illegally dispersed over the net while the rest is in the member area. Here are some details that you could come up (not clearly define by the book) and find the answer in the member area, maybe some of you notice maybe some put less importance yet very critical; -Criteria of the valid Main Vipot (book says: it must be a "jump out at you" main Pivot). -Criteria of valid prime stage (period orientation of MA before the flip causing move, otherwise apply 52s template). -Criteria of valid flip -Second stage confirmation -Exact definition of Cut (certain color of 13 cross 68) -Move After Cut (measuring parallel and steepening) -Pullback criteria (price should penetrate certain color) -Retracment criteria -Automatic no trade -Additional Setup to handle correction (CSA and 52s template), remember that correction posses 70% of the time in the market FYI, all that mention in the book was to handle just 30% of setup. Now we have CSA and 52s template to handle the rest 70% of setup. Honestly I favor CSA combine with 52s template since they occurred more often. So please be advised that its best to be a legal copy owner and have all the answer in the forum Most of you only said " I didn't get it" while we expecting a more quality question such as "What does the book mean; The move after cut require that the band of 13 and 68 MA become more parallel and steepening" or "the last 3 thick MA (Gold, Lime, Green) must be turn in and period oriented at the bar of trend extreme" Asking this then we know that you have try to read the book. I read the book twice then applied it then I came up with such question instead of "I didn't get it" If you have been a while in this thread you might realize that I've posted some success primary setup only applying the book (before become a legal copy owner and totally understand the system) while came up with such above question. This make me think that the book might be not written in a such hypnotic-copywriting manner like most of the s****py method out there but if someone has put sufficient effort in it (as i did) then its just that easy. Reading "I didn't get it" make me imagine my self explaining the whole book of more than 40 pics in a very basic way while all you need to do is just to evaluate certain traits using 13-68 crossing tool. We are willing to help you if you are willing to help your self. Sorry for this hard approach. Just couldn't imagine how patience Tom (D**, Ge**, J, Bo**, and others) was to deal with our question in the member and premium area. freakgib 1
ramliam Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 thanks guys for your views, FYI I have just purchased a copy and gone premium! :) Read book and watched video, the video was most helpful and I am currently looking through the historical setup screenshots in premium area to familiarise myself with some setups. It would be nice to be able to get in to some setups at the same time as learning it so I will be looking further at how the watchlist works as it does look quite complicated :) when you buying this system do you have free access to the premium area or you need to pay $25 monthly? best regards ramliam
⭐ c0py Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 when you buying this system do you have free access to the premium area or you need to pay $25 monthly? best regards ramliam you get a 14-day free trial then it becomes $25 per month freakgib and ramliam 2
fxnizar Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 chart here i post EURUSD 15M CHART. with in my limited source i start posting here.i know one day someone attach bulled rail engine here(new version). i just have steam engine. discuss with chart i may be wrong! my way make lot of error then learn where and when u made it in near future diminish error.http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff444/fxnizar/
alright Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 (edited) here i post EURUSD 15M CHART. with in my limited source i start posting here. Hi fxnizar. I took the liberty to edit the link of your image as it wouldn't take anywhere. Here it is http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv197/alright_01/cut-1.gif Edited April 29, 2011 by alright
fxnizar Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 thank u alright where is anther one.next pic? pls post that also.then tell me how to do this? thank again nizar
fxnizar Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 (edited) pic1: pic2: here it is? any commend? welcome! my point of view its a system which will tell u Elliot 2nd,4th wave retrace end. if the continue signal mean extension wave it will have RTB. Edited April 29, 2011 by fxnizar
alright Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 thank u alright where is anther one.next pic? pls post that also.then tell me how to do this? thank again nizarHi mate. It looks like you've managed well now. ;)
hermes Posted April 26, 2011 Report Posted April 26, 2011 (edited) It is easy to manage. If all lines get narrow it is ranging market stay out. When it starts to widen that's time for placing orders. Only you have to recognize the short pullbacks! I would ad a Stochastic to it. Could be traded on 1H TF? The trends would be longer. Hermes Edited April 26, 2011 by hermes fxnizar 1
muhhatta Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Guys, We are going to be very busy this week forward, many Long Term setup are waiting, i am on triggered GC and EG, Can't concentrate for additional pairs, harvest time baby, I love STAR Edited April 27, 2011 by muhhatta retry99 1
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 thank u hermes plz tell me best Stochastic properties for time frames.
⭐ megashop Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Guys, We are going to be very busy this week forward, many Long Term setup are waiting, i am on triggered GC and EG, Can't concentrate for additional pairs, harvest time baby, I love STAR pls share ur setup here thx.
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Guys, We are going to be very busy this week forward, many Long Term setup are waiting, i am on triggered GC and EG, Can't concentrate for additional pairs, harvest time baby, I love STAR[/QUOT where is the signal?
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) here audusd m1 i take trade in demo PIC COMMENDS WELCOME Edited April 29, 2011 by fxnizar
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/fxnizar1/audusd.gif Edited April 29, 2011 by fxnizar ⭐ megashop and josephR 2
josephR Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 fxnizar, posting the annotated pic was a great idea. Thanks very much. I wish we could blow it up a bit to get better details. It is certainly very helpful for those of us new to this system. I encourage others to follow suit. Best, josephR
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) here GBPUSD m1 http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa393/fxnizar1/audusdm1.gif i take trade plz see the force index divergence also Edited April 27, 2011 by fxnizar force index
fxnizar Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) watch GBPAUD H4 nizar why iam only post here? anything wrong? Edited April 27, 2011 by fxnizar
saambask Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 hi, somebody can send full meterial to my mail [email protected]?look like no downloadlink working thankyou
⭐ megashop Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 watch GBPAUD H4 nizar why iam only post here? anything wrong? nothing wrong brother, keep posting, everyone are watching here :D
⭐ megashop Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Manual http://mir.cr/1KYAJYWQ Videos http://mir.cr/1GYJFJ7S (part 1) http://mir.cr/RA26P3PS (part 2) http://mir.cr/1UG2KYL1 (part 3) Templates & Indicators http://mir.cr/1DWQQJTL wakjoe, Sesshoumaru, vince-ac and 2 others 5
⭐ trendtrader Posted April 27, 2011 Report Posted April 27, 2011 Can you trade this on index futures like the ES and TF? Also can the indicators work on Ninja Trader or just MT
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