Sneed

Not a single trade since installation. Basic and advanced version. Sits there like a rock.

Does anyone know if this EA is just a rehash of Forex STF? Or is it truly something original? All the talk about NASA and Genetics sounds too familiar.

 

http://www.forexgenetic.c0m/

 

I know that STF was a fake, and this new one is being sold at half price. So, it makes me think it is just a relabeling of the original failed STF product....:-/

Yes. If you read the entire sales page, they actually "forget" to change the text and call it Zone "Oscillator" instead of Zone "Dominator". I see these type of mistakes often in sales literature, where they are copying and paste, from another product. ;))

 

unfortunately this is just rename of "RangeOscillator" :(

For some people it has not traded even once in 10 days.

Same here, I subscribed to his TradeCloner a few weeks ago. Nothing but technical problems (instead of 1 trade, it triggered 25 trades of the same position), crashed my account. Their response, it was just a "glitch" in their software. And that they were sorry that I lost 500 pips (hundreds of dollars) on that one "glitch". Plus there was a monthly fee. I wrote back to them, and asked them if they were "truly sorry" that the "glitch" lost me so much money, would they consider waiving my monthly fee for a month or two? (A value which would have been a small "fraction" of how much money I lost, but a VERY GOOD DEAL for them, to keep me as a paying customer, and it would have cost them nothing, as compared to a refund). Their arrogant response was "such a suggestion is completely unacceptable". A glitch in the system, is not the same as a "bad trade". It was a defective technology, and all I was asking for was a credit, and they wouldn't hear of it. I was going to cancel anyway, but I wanted to give them a chance to show some dignity, of which they had none. This is no reflection of Vladimir, because I believe that he wasn't involved. He has some "snob" running the operation for him, who claims to be a "genius at trading" Vladimir's system. Not true. He is a jerk! :berbusa:

 

I subscribed to his earlier venture into signals (he called it TradeCloner then). I lost $$$ and asked for my money back after about 3 weeks. I got the signals Cloning service fee back but lost several hundred Euros in bad trades copied across to my account. I lost my appetite to keep with them.

 

I was curious when I saw he has started yet another trade cloning service. I can only presume his earlier one failed completely and most people bailed out like I did.

 

I like Vladminir but I have zero confidence in this service and will not try this new-name cloning service again. I would be keen to hear this new one is better so please keep us updated.

If you have VPS, it allows you to use it on multiple brokers on that VPS. It restricted to one computer, not one brokerage account. So, this is good for people who have more than 1 brokerage account, then they still only need just 1 license. So far, it had only 2 trades last week because of the flat market activity, and because it was launched towards the end of the week. Maybe next week there will be more trades. :|

 

I haven't seen an educated version yet.

It seems that there are 2 separate products on the web site. #1. A monthly signal subscription service. #2. The EA, which uses a different system than the signal service, which works with a weekend spread differential. So, the one time fee is for the EA, not the multi-currency subscription service.

Normally such a license key only works for one broker account at a time. Unless maybe in demo mode there is no restriction. I would be curious to know how only ONE license key can be used by multiple people? It sort of defeats the purpose of having a license key in the first place....:P

Their sales page described their "automated" software as follows:

 

In a nutshell, what the software does is… it searches the Internet for keywords found on social sites like Twitter, Facebook and popular trading forums, and “data-mines” it for clues about where the majority of people think the forex market is trending next.

 

Then, after the purchase, there are 3 "humans to choose from", and you can even look at their trading performance charts for the past few weeks. One trader's chart went down, another went up, and another went sideways. It was clear that these 3 traders have nothing in common with the system advertised. How could 3 traders get such opposite results, using the "same" "foolproof" supercomputer? When I emailed them this question, they "refused" to discuss the super computer, and simply stated "we trust these traders to eventually make a profit". :-O

The information on it is here: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/13128-Req-Forex-Hercules?highlight=Hercules

 

Hi Sneed,

 

Can you PM me some details on Hercules please?

If you insist on having a human trade your account, then at least Hercules does not charge a monthly fee, and the performance is equal or better, so far. :|

Have installed it on demo with trader Viktor ,still in profit ,but not so profitable!

This is the same group from http://www.forexsignalsafe.com/traders.php. But, sold with a different explanation. With "signal safe", at least they admitted that it was a "trader" using a trade copier. With Hybrid, they make it seem like a "super, super, super, computer" doing "data mining" of hundreds of publications, and the "bot" does 10 trades a day. Then, when you purchase it (which I did), they admit that there is "no" super computer, but just a choice of 3 "human" traders who will trade your account for you. And not, 10 trades a day, more like 10 trades a week. I lost money with both web sites. And yes I only traded with live accounts. In some of their literature, they even promise 300 pips a "day".... But, they finally did give me a refund after resisting for over a week.... :-O

These charts look terrible. Either sideways or down. Maybe he was telling the truth when he said he didn't modify them. If he did modify them, why are they so terrible to look at? Oh well, this thread is history anyway..... :-/

 

http://www.mt4i.com/users/kentran86/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/kopaszn

http://www.mt4i.com/users/cashdnachris/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/dannyoh/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/leonn/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/taiji/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/barryact/stats

http://www.mt4i.com/users/kenrog/stats pincode: 123

 

You can deleet those link again but people who want to see can clearly see. One can not and will not place the time and energy to scamm all of these links and if he would he would make that there are no losses.

 

And you SEFC, I clearly explained that I will make my EA commercial and I would like you to close this topic so that I don't want to spamm on this forum. You said NO,I keep your topic open. Now you banned me because I try to sell something ????.... stay a little bit serious.

 

PS. You don't need to bann me again. This was my very last posting EVER in this forum.

No, no, no...... not AGAIN !?!

 

What you see is NOT what you get. Some differences I have noticed so far:

 

1. What they say:A supercomputer does trades for you with 100% accuracy.

What you get: NO super computer, a human will do all the trading for you, with 50%-70% accuracy, some accounts go down or sideways.

2. What they say: New Product Never offered before. What you get: The same platform, and human traders, from another failed product called "Signal Safe".

3. What they say: Many Trades a day. What you get, a few trades a week with questionable performance.

4. What they say: Excellent technical support. What you get: People in technical support who are newbies, they mean well, but they have no authority to answer any questions, other than how to install an EA, and what subdirectory the dll file goes into. Other than that you are on your own.

5. What they say: 1 year guarantee. What you get: After you purchase the service they inform you that the guarantee is only 60 days, and even then, you can only get a refund if you provide "A real good reason".

 

I am really annoyed that in his sales video, his whole point was that he had an expensive supercomputer to make the trades. Then "after" you purchase the service, there is NO discussion about the super computer AT ALL! But, rather you have to choose 1 of 3 traders to trade your account, and their individual performances, and profits, are totally different from each other, and clearly no super computer is used. When you ask support about these discrepancies, you get silence. Now I have to wrestle with Plimus for another 7 days to try and get a refund..~X(

 

Same old story here - plenty of cash for the promoters...

 

Main Product (Hybrid Pips™ Signals) : $37.00/Month

Upsell 1 (Hybrid Pips™ PRO) : $97.00/Month

Upsell 2 (Hybrid Pips™ Unlimited Access) : $67.00/Month

Upsell 3 (Hybrid Pips™ Manual System) : $47.00

Upsell 4 (Hybrid Pips™ Inner Circle) : $497

Thanks halcyonn. All confusion resolved now. It was just a misunderstanding. :) I had read every single post from the beginning. At one point it seemed to trade like a "machine gun" on my chart, even when the market didn't seem to move. Then, Wednesday it just "stopped", even though the market continued to move. Then other members seemed to say they were "still" getting trades with the same "300" setting. So, I thought that maybe it was a broker compatibility issue. Because I do have some EA's that will do "no trades" on some brokers, and on other brokers, I get several trades a day. Many times due to ECN incompatibilities. Then there is also the MT4 issue, where sometimes it just gets "buggy" (over the years) and I have to reboot to get it to work and compile properly. But, once 50pips advised that "his" trades also stopped on Wednesday, then my concerns were answered, and I am no longer concerned about platform issues. :-bd

Sneed dear..your anxiety is understandable..no one would want a perfect ea to be lost just because its broken - but the ea is perfectly fine and not broken and will work as soon as there are trades that will turn a profit.

It gets confusing, because when "sleep" is inside the actual code, it is normally used when "trade context is busy" and it delays order send function. But, I guess when "outside" the code, it means slippage, as you say. But, I don't know why they just don't call it "slippage" as in other EAs? Maybe its a cultural thing, depending on what country the EA was written. :-/

I only asked about the Broker issue because I have tested hundreds of EAs, and some just seem to work better on some brokers than others. This EA may be different, and work equally well on all brokers, but just on different days of the week. I have 12 live brokerage accounts, but I wasn't ready to attach this EA to all 12 accounts, so I just thought I could save some time, and narrow it down to just a few brokers at first. But, since it seems that we are all pioneering this thing at the same time, and there is "no" broker database to compare, I will just, test it one broker at a time, and do it the long way. I will report here if I make any "discoveries". :|

 

I still dont understand why you would like to know which broker has trades wednesday. It makes no difference as you might get trades on your broker that they dont get in future times..

 

Look i have 3 EMA_USD running on my VPS server all with AXIS. Now you would think i would get same values across all 3 since iam useing the same platform. But this is not the case. 1 is so far different it could make you think something is wrong..But its not. I figured every broker uses not just 1 data server..so maybe iam getting data from a different server than the other 2. My other 2 Axis are atleast close to each other in values but still not the same..

 

So it really doesnt matter what broker someone got trades on wednesday as next wednesday you could have trades and they have none. It will all even out in the long run and whats more important is you have no errors in your journal and when it does trade you WIN.

The sleep numbers are usually expressed in milliseconds, so a setting of 3 would be 3 milliseconds (or a setting of 1000 = 1 second). These are usually placed in a setting to allow the EA to "catch up with itself". Sort of like pausing when talking, in order to breathe. But, I am not a programmer, so I am not sure about the 3 setting. I would imagine that if I had a slow computer, and it kept freezing, I might increase the "sleep" setting a little. But, then, I don't know if that would harm the efficiency of the EA. :-?

 

Now to ask something worthwhile..

 

Any coder amongst us figured out what the Sleep_ setting is for as i have no idea and get many PMs asking this same question.

 

Any ideas are welcome

We are posting at the same time so there is a misunderstanding. It's just that grooter seemed to be getting trades, so I was concerned that it was some other issue. But, if you are also not getting any trades, then I feel reassured. No, I am not complaining. Sorry it sounded that way...;)

 

Well.mine has no trade since wednesday also..so does that mean mine is broken also..If you have no errors and cant just waite for it to start trading again then remove EA and move on.Simple

:)OK. Sounds good. I don't mind waiting. But, if its a broker issue, I don't mind changing brokers. It would be interesting which broker accounts experienced trades between Wednesday and Friday?

 

Guys how do you know its not working..what because no trades since wednesday..that means nothing..as previously mentioned it doesnt have to take a trade every day or for that matter every week..It depends on market conditions. Check your screen and see if any of your values are over your delta setting..Since wednesday its been slow..simple..

 

You will get different values with different brokers as they only have to be a pip higher or lower over a few bars and the values will be different than another broker..This is the main issue with mt4..each broker can have there own high..low..open which is different to another broker.

 

As many have pointed out here it works and rest is human error..or broker error.Just have patience and iam sure your sleepy Ea will take trades in due time so unless you have a error in your journal..ITS WORKING

Yes, I agree. I am also interested if anyone here tries it out. I even sent the vendor my money for the full upsell in addition to the regular product. So, I was ready to go "all the way".

 

But, I got concerned that the broker was always difficult to reach. Even when I tried "live chat" there was never anyone there, no matter what time of day or night I tried. At that point I got a little nervous sending $5,000 to open an account with them, which is what they were requesting. It almost seemed like a "one man" operation, and that "one man" was never there. Maybe he was at the local Tavern with "Captain Kirk". :(

 

* - On a positive note, to be fair, they gave a speedy refund within 8 hours of request. That's practically unheard of in the Forex world, without having to "first" force Plimus to intervene.... :shand:

 

Yes. Brokers will suspend/close your account if they think you are making money from them. So, if they are helping to promote this stuff, then I would drop it. However, I would be interested if someone took it up and reported back here, after their 5 year mission...

TyTradium?

 

After you purchase it, they don't send you "anything". It turns out that you need to sign up ONLY with their broker (TyTradium FX) and the Signal/EA is installed by the broker. [Very similar to how the AICashRobot (FapTurbo People), marketed their EA, ONLY through IamFx). I tried searching the web on TyTradium, and couldn't find much on them. So, my concern was "more" about sending a "deposit" to their broker, and not as much the cost of the EA. Getting a refund from a broker is more difficult than getting a refund for a cheap EA. The pressure to use ONLY their broker caused me to "opt out". :-/

The educated EU damaged my account in a way I never imagined. I had MM turned off, for fixed microlot trading only. It worked OK for several months until the account increased. Then, today, without warning, it increased the lot size so large, that I got a margin call and lost over $200. So, since MM OFF works only sometimes or not at all, I am going to change the lots risk reductor to see if "that" will discourage any more lot increases. Lots Risk Reductor should have been inactive with MM turned off, and I already had it reduced (anyway) from 50 (default) to 20. Now I have changed it to 1. If that doesn't work, then I will try a different version. :-/

 

Don't you get? This EA is mega dangerous ****, it will blow your account sooner or later..

You have my attention when you have any gossip about "Lord Voldemort". ;))

 

Nasty! I do like the name "You Know Who". Must be a dark wizard.

Yes. Really frustrating. I tested it on a live account, and it kept going "long" as the GU went down today. And like a typical Marty as mentioned by Pro, it increased the lots as it traded "against" the trend. But, I thought this thing was supposed to go WITH the trend. I emailed support, but, they have declined to answer so far. Note: There are 4 EAs, but the instructions weren't clear how to use. Nano, Micro, Mini, Standard. But, the instructions said to use "nano" if your account is less than $1,000. But, nano will not trade on any of the brokers I tried because it trades .001 lots. So, you have to trade the "micro EA" which trades .01 lots (but, according to the manual, you should only trade MicroEA if your account is $1,001 to $5,000). Anyway, the GU is starting to retrace upward again, so we will see if it will close the 3 open losing positions and turn them into winning positions. I will probably go for a refund also. If I wanted a crazy EA like this, I could have just used Ilan which is free. :-S