sgteo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major, you are getting better and better on this system.. you the forex guru \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansatsu_ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major can you share your template? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan1713006055 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA http://goodies.mt4live.com/ the FXopen ECN level II here demo is the method that I test the cluster indicator on. I have the same position on my liteforex cent account test it as well. Hi finimej, would like to install the cluster indi in my IBFX but I always get the info: pair is not available... any thoughts? any help? at the moment this is my broker... thanks in advance, jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myffxdonos Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA you need that the pairs are all open and the history is buffered. than it works Quote http://www.sitetalk.com/myworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan1713006055 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA you need that the pairs are all open and the history is buffered. than it works Hi myffxdonos, many thanks, will try right now... jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA I hade sell signal on GBPJPY and EURUSD early this morning. What I understand is that the CCFP indicator we shall use to check the much longer trend as well. Cluster calculated the total relation between the pairs. So the USD is getting stronger, but EURUSD still not drop yet, we could entry too earlier, like I did on sell on GBPJPY and EURUSD. In this case, believe in your longer term "Sell position" let it open, and hedge with buy position if the short term trade go against you. or double your buy if the short term trade against your long term position. Roels Major, Glad that you've got into the system so fast.Can you share your experience? Thanks. Since the CC signal mostly shall be used on H4 or above, so you can trade this system with anybroker's spread. you can take signal from MT4 and trade on your platform, like I did in dukascopy demo. So it is independent of spread, and trading platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major, you are getting better and better on this system.. you the forex guru \m/ I am just Newbie man...... for only....seven months....... Forex GURU is someone who has 15 years trading experiences... Ha..ha..ha.. Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major can you share your template? Its OK man...just use every indicator and templates that had posted by finimej here.... Than u can add some indies... - CG (Center of Gravity) to make sure u in...in the turning point position...and clearing the signals... - Snake Force to exit the trade manually or you can combine it to enter and exit the trade.... - I removed the last indicator using by finimej template (indicator that show u all maximums distance beetween pairs....i forget the name but don't miss understanding here.....you can't remove CC and Complex pair!! Their are vital here...)... You can combine it to with some indicators that have brilliant track records... I suggest...you can see this thread.......... http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3238&start=50 You can find 4 winners indicator in periode May to June... - Silver SHI (semi repaiting and 3-4 bars late signal)....some used by finimej on his template like ATR range and stop loss with some modification on he code... - Indo FX its life Jim (repaint)... -Trend forex 2.0 and Trend forex shadow...(combinations a whole MA with some methods)..It confusing me..until now... - And Snake Force....It is Brilliant....sometimes... Of course we have some modification by fini on the WATL Open Source....and its briliant indicator and show you multi functions of trade like trend, resistance and support... We have FF Calendar too to see the news will come and period past (after)..but it will be have some differencies cause we have multi hours time zone in over the world and broker locations...so you can check manually on FF Factory Calendar Website to make sure you have the correct time....i am still searching to correct setting...this FF calendar has had some modification too.. And we can work together to make it better.... Now its so hard to me to post quickly as soon as possible cause so many troubles day to day on the F******* internet connections... Nothing good in Indonesia except the coffee time and taste of my coffee in Aceh.... Haiya................... :)>- Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA I hade sell signal on GBPJPY and EURUSD early this morning. What I understand is that the CCFP indicator we shall use to check the much longer trend as well. Cluster calculated the total relation between the pairs. So the USD is getting stronger, but EURUSD still not drop yet, we could entry too earlier, like I did on sell on GBPJPY and EURUSD. In this case, believe in your longer term "Sell position" let it open, and hedge with buy position if the short term trade go against you. or double your buy if the short term trade against your long term position. Roels Major, Glad that you've got into the system so fast.Can you share your experience? Thanks. Since the CC signal mostly shall be used on H4 or above, so you can trade this system with anybroker's spread. you can take signal from MT4 and trade on your platform, like I did in dukascopy demo. So it is independent of spread, and trading platform. Not sure what is your request Fini... 8-) :D You're my Forex...Guru....I am following you... :-bd I am just newbie... But i am pretty sure you are amazing... With this amazing system.. I will give all my ideas and experiences for make this system better... Thats all what i have now..... :shand: Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA ..........Time to take shower and get relax........ We will see if this system could go Live on Monday.. And Change your life..... :) Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major, What I mean is: you poste a screen dump direkt just after you took a position, and write which position, lite text why you took the position. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Roels Major, What I mean is: you poste a screen dump direkt just after you took a position, and write which position, lite text why you took the position. Thanks. OK... No problems... :D Sorry missunderstood.... Ha..ha..ha..ha.. Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/RoelsMajor/cccc.gif Should we get entry Fini?? What do yo think? Divergence is Negative.... Complex Pair on Line 0....GBP and USD has moved to form a new cross and new cluster (close cluster).... Snake force has signal to entry.... And we have 2 good news for GBP... But..Forecast HighLineTrend still down... And CG Confirm Cross..... http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/RoelsMajor/ccccc.gif Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Open 3 standard lot.......... Testing Floating Pips On GBP-USD On the Good Signal before mindhero occur..... Fix SL 50 pips TP........................................ http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/RoelsMajor/cccccc.gif Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Hit Stop Loss!!!...USD Interferes by other pair...??? X-( Actually...Without No News from GBP... 50 pips SL is not enough.....ATR give arounds 165 pips...or the correct answer is "this is Friday...." Maybe we need some enhanced entry indicator to make the good entry....to fix one late bar mindhero....anyway mindhero still best to wait.... And to fix repaint by Snake Force....(from the brilliant to sucks and come again to brilliant-repaint problem) :-?? http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/RoelsMajor/ccccccc.gif Have u consider this Fini..... http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=233&start=250 http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1386/newi2g.jpg No repaint indikator by SEFC... He would share...but..... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Here we can find something good maybe... http://www.forex-tsd.com/expert-analysis/9806-theoretical-basis-building-cluster-indicators-forex.html I dont have account elite at forex TSD... Please someone who have....need a help... The link above is the source of this system development like we did here.... If this break the rule...please delete the link... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt90/RoelsMajor/ccccccccc.gif Does Not Repaint.......... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA I strongly believe that we can beat the guys at elite trade. I have paid for the elit trade for last 6 month, does not found it is really worth it, and stopped pay for it just from last month. You and me are just as same good or even better than any people who claimed them are "the elite traders ". Besides, I have Sergius on my skypy, and my own brain. We can beat these "elite traders". The trouble here is to detect what is the market condition? trending or consolidate (congesting in another word). Enligt my trading technique that I have learnt from Joe Ross: if the close of the bar is in side the length of last long bar, then it is consolidating phase. See the price bar on your chart, the last 3 or 4 bars close is inside the longest bar before there. Specially today, when USA market is closed, then the cluster indicator is very much oscillated around zero line, in balance. In this case, I would just fire a hedge order, a buy and sell on eurusd at the same price, and put take profits for 10 or 20 pips for both order, and leave them there. http://goodies.mt4live.com/, see you order 266367 and order ticket 266368? I fired a hedge order (buy and sell on EURUSD) and put 20 pips for both order, and go to my normal work afterwards, let the order developed themselve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Thanks for the englightment Fini.... I found some good materials that can lead us to trade better...off course this have correlation with this CC System... Correlation rigth? 8-) Here you are...http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3750&hilit=i+am+not+sure Thanks God the thread is in the great forum... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA CHARACTERISTICS OF CYCLE-BASED ENTRIES A cycle-based entry of the kind studied below (which attempts to buy bottoms and sell tops) has several strong characteristics: a high percentage of winning trades, low levels of slippage, and the ability to capture as much of each move as possible. This is the kind of trading that is a trader’s dream. The assumption being made is that there are well-behaved cycles in the market that can be detected and, more importantly. extrapolated by this kind of technology. It has been said that the markets evidence cyclic activity up to 70% of the time. Even if clear cycles that lead to successful trades only occur some smaller percentage of the time, because of the nature of the model, the losses can be kept small on the failed trades by the use of tight stops. The main disadvantage of a cycle-based entry is that the market may have become efftcient relative to such trading methodologies, thanks to the proliferation of fairly powerful cycle analysis techniques, e.g., maximum entropy. The trading away of well-behaved cycles may hamper all cycle detection approaches. Since cycle entries of the kind just discussed are countertrend in nature, if the cycles show no follow-through, but the trends do, the trader can get wiped out unless good money management practices (tight stops) are employed. Whether or not a sophisticated cycle analysis works, at least as implemented here, is the question to be answered by the tests that follow. Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA From Bro SEFC......... http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1585/divergentsystemwithsefcup3.jpg Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konorti Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Great work on both sides (Finimej, Roels Major)! I am following this thread from beginning. I was thinking on the GBPUSD reasons. If we look at the pictures under, we see ,that during the last three days there were a major down trend, probably becuase of the big sell off from the 61.8% Fibo level. Volatility is very high, so we have to work with higher stoploss these days. On the 4H chart we see the same downtrend sell-off from 50% Fibo level (right to the pip) on a bearish day. Maybe we should consider the next higher timeframe CC as well. Weekly charts are also similarly bearish. Daily charts: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/120/picture26p.png http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4831/picture27.png 4H Chart: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5003/picture25f.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Very nice analisa kopaszn......... Don't trade on Friday...he..he..he.. And Forecast Trendline still down....remember... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konorti Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA yeah, nasty fridays :) ,but probably the one who says, that this market is sideways, and better not to trade is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Re: [system] Cluster indicator system and prototype EA Kapaszn, So I checked also the GBPUSD Weekly chart because you mentioned it. Good! the more people discuss the trading method here, the more we can learn from each other. Everybody is welcoming to write in this "our" thread. My conslution text is on my picture. GBPUSD Weekly (now 2009-07-04) trend: the CCFP indicator is for longer period of cluster indicator, and the cc and others are the same.I made other pair colour to white to be hided. It is a sell signal on the GBPUSD weekly right now, if I go short, I would be very careful and only short to end of wave 4. The risk is my short entry will get caught by wave 5 that is coming. so I want to wait for a very clear negative divergence between the GBPUSD price and the inidicator and then go full short! There are pretty much of sign when a primary trend is turned or turning. Be selective on your trading, get the clear signal is the most good thing. GBPUSD H4 chart, it is consolidating between range 1.62095 to 1.66169. Because on the weekly chart, I am expecting a wave nr 4 down, so I will just sell on the resistance at 1.66169. If I really really can not find any other good pair to trade, and must trade on the GBPUSD H4 right now on both side of range trading, (wow), then I must be prepared to reverse my position to short if I go long from 1.62095 and the price is break down. If you do not like to do the range trading on H4, then you have to go down to the M5 to do the trend following trade. http://www.formulatrader.com/download/bild/gbpusdw1.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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