⭐ liamsi Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Intriguing but very very very possible. What if u started with $100 and doubled your money every month. 0 100 1 200 end of 1 month 2 400 3 800 4 1,600 5 3,200 6 6,400 7 12,800 8 25,600 9 51,200 10 102,400 11 204,800 12 409,600 13 819,200 14 1,638,400 end of 14 months not even 2 years. I believe only in the forex market that this possible. Now the question is how do you double your money every month. the answer lies in finding the right expert advisor or method that can do this. if you can double in one month than just use the same method in the next month and so on. all you have to do is use same method and double lot size. Thus far there are 2 ea's that can do it 1) Fabturbo 2) Piptronic Now this could very well change in the coming months and not perform as well. One other thing i noticed different platforms will have different results so always run your forward test on 6-8 platforms and see which is best. right now for the two ea's 1)ODL securities 2)FXDD 3)Fxpro 4)Tawadul Now i challenge all you guys out there to look for ea's and systems or methods that can achieve this. 100% return every month. PLEASE PLEASE DONOT POST EA'S SYSTEMS OR METHOD WITHOUT FORWARD TESTING IT YOURSELF. IT MUST FALL INTO THE 100% PER MONTH CATEGORY AND IF YOU POST ANYTHING U MUST GIVE SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON SETTINGS AND/OR HOW TO USE IT. PREFERABLY WITH SMALL DRAWDOWNS AND FEW SMALL LOSSES. WE ARE ONLY HERE TO VERIFY YOUR RESULTS NOT TO TEST IT AND TRY IT. PREFER NO DEMO EA'S. EA'S THAT CAN WORK ON REAL ACCOUNT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF U FIND THE RIGHT EA'S ETC. YOU WILL BE A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. IT IS WORTHWHILE APPLYING YOURSELF TO THIS CHALLENGE. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM ALL OF YOU ESPECIALLY THE BIG GUYS LIKE KARDEL,NGA,CUBICREY, WILLIAM ETC. SALAAMS PS FABTURBO IS POSTED IN THIS FORUM WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR PIPTRONIC THINK OF IT FOR A $100 INVESTMENT IN YOURSELF ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND MAKE A MILLION. I GAVE YOU METHOD NOW LETS FIND THE RIGHT TOOLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mourad_amine Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Hi for all members :) Thank you Mr. liamsi for your post. But I have some questions: 1- are you sure about what you're talking about? 2. Why especially Fabturbo & Piptronic EAs? have you the proofs or forward test? is it advertising? 3. Double the account balance each month, is it possible? where's the risk, volatility and other external factors? I think that is possible but with a probability of 0.000000000001% BestRegards Mourad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4wil Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Well, it's very possible in the math but not in the reality. If trade manually we must filter psychology problems (fear, greed..etc), EA with Profit 100% per month maybe exist but im not sure. People who sell those EA is the millionaire.. i think :lol: *My daily profit is just 2% per day and it enough for me Lol.... :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. the people who makes those EA knows that such EA are not profitable in the long run,,,otherwise why wud he sell it ,,,,,,moreover,,why wud he sell it on the net? dont u think they know that you and all of us here dont even have the heart to buy? we all just waiting when someone share it here...am i right or right? :peace: and when u want to double such account,,,u are taking high risk,,,,and ur assumptions are all just winning streaks,,,,u didnt count the loosing streaks,,,, how much u need to risk to get 100%ROI? and wht happends if one time u lost? i think we shud stop dreaming and wake up now,,,,,make a decent 5-10% monthly and u will be happy trading this beautyfull market,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4wil Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. the people who makes those EA knows that such EA are not profitable in the long run,,,otherwise why wud he sell it ,,,,,,moreover,,why wud he sell it on the net? dont u think they know that you and all of us here dont even have the heart to buy? we all just waiting when someone share it here...am i right or right? :peace: and when u want to double such account,,,u are taking high risk,,,,and ur assumptions are all just winning streaks,,,,u didnt count the loosing streaks,,,, how much u need to risk to get 100%ROI? and wht happends if one time u lost? i think we shud stop dreaming and wake up now,,,,,make a decent 5-10% monthly and u will be happy trading this beautyfull market,,,, You're right buddy.... :geek: We just retail traders not "Big Dog" or "Bank Trader".... :mrgreen: :peace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. the more money in ur account the less % u can make,,,,,, those huge fund managers hold billions of usd,,,,for them 3% wud be enough,,,,,, dont get mistaken!!,,only those stressfull trader with big dreams and less then 500usd in the account can make 100% ROI,,,, that too not consistent,, :peace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton1979 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. BISMILLAH AND SALAAMS Intriguing but very very very possible. What if u started with $100 and doubled your money every month. 0 100 1 200 end of 1 month 2 400 3 800 4 1,600 5 3,200 6 6,400 7 12,800 8 25,600 9 51,200 10 102,400 11 204,800 12 409,600 13 819,200 14 1,638,400 end of 14 months not even 2 years. I believe only in the forex market that this possible. Now the question is how do you double your money every month. Sorry, but I have to tell you this. You're wrong, terribly wrong my friend. It is impossible. Not even in ten million chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4051fx Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. yes you can double your money, but what broker can give you above $50.000 when you have to withdrawl, actualy if you want to be safe and stay it on your broker you must withdrawl least then $5000 a month Quote 4051fx.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ liamsi Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. the answer lies in finding the right expert advisor or method that can do this. if you can double in one month than just use the same method in the next month and so on. all you have to do is use same method and double lot size. Thus far there are 2 ea's that can do it 1) Fabturbo 2) Piptronic Now this could very well change in the coming months and not perform as well. TOO answer your questions as of now and on forward testing these two ea's fit the criteria. not only are they being forward tested but also being used live and making money.tomorrow it could very well change. On the manual and systematic side if you have a high probability setup that occurs daily why not. how are you making your 2% or 5% daily . add your 2% and 5% daily how close are you 100% per month. stop being negative and say it cannot be done. how many times have you heard someone say i doubled my small account in a few days. discipline, patience with proper money management and the right setup are the keys. dont do yourself down and limit your thinking. think and say what if were possible how can it be done. if you feel it cannot be done then keep it to yourself don't shoot some else down for trying. for u never know they may just succeed and not share the secret with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. may be if one day i see the name ISMAIL on the forbes magazine then i might contact u,,,, mean while,,,, i can only say,, GOOD LUCK :peace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K12 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Hi. This game is about managing risk :o and then only making money :oops: . Think about it. How you would possibly control your downside by aiming to double your money on each MONTH? You possibly can make a million in a year if you start up with a MILLION and then you doubled your money and you gained 100% annually. If you started with $100 and want to achieve half a million in a year then you are aiming for an annaul gain of 5000%!!!! :| :| :| In other words you want to make 50 times more your initial investment in a year? Not double but 50 fold! Think about it! :peace: If you make 6% every month then you can achieve 100% annual return so you doubled your money. You started with $100 and at the end of the year you have then $200! but not half a million. Looking for an EA to achieve a 5000% return with an intial investment of $100?? Come on you must be joking I know!!!!! :D :arrow: Other members' opinions about "proper goal setting" is welcome. Try to back up your ideas with some maths if you can. please contribute your ideas to help other members. :geek: :arrow: Regards. :peace: :peace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ liamsi Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. If you started with $100 and want to achieve half a million in a year then you are aiming for an annaul gain of 5000%!!!! In other words you want to make 50 times more your initial investment in a year? Not double but 50 fold! Think about it! If you make 6% every month then you can achieve 100% annual return so you doubled your money. You started with $100 and at the end of the year you have then $200! but not half a million. Looking for an EA to achieve a 5000% return with an intial investment of $100?? Come on you must be joking I know!!!!! Other members' opinions about "proper goal setting" is welcome. Try to back up your ideas with some maths if you can. please contribute your ideas to help other members. heres your proof after only two nights of trading. i setup 8 platforms and i am only running the 2 ea's fapturbo and piptronic. the settings are the same. the best platform is odl as of now. starting balance $5000. i will give u the top 4 odl 5000 now 8878 =77% 2 nights of trading fxdd 5000 now 7046 = 40.9% 2 nights fxpro 5000 now 6981 = 39.8% 2 nights tawadul 5000 now 6781 = 35.6% 2 nights so alot depends on the platform u use. u can see the difference. see attached odl statement. this is forward testing realtime. keep in mind as your account grows your lot size increases. on fap it does that automatically. with piptronic when it gets to 10,000 i will increase to 5 lots. now at 2.5 lots to back it with math 5% of 100= 5 of 1000=50 of 10000=500 500/100 is now 500% do not forget the compounding factor. lets c what happens on these demo accounts. keep an open mind i am sorry i cannot share piptronic with u as the guy i got it from made me promise not to give it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Nothing wrong with "Dreaming" :) Good Luck. Ps. I've never heard "Piptronic" , maybe someone can share it to test ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. I wish orb liamsi is a cute girl with long hair,,,,,,,,,, it is so much fun to see how a preety girl having big dreams and soon shaatered away and i can be her shoulder to cry on,,,!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: but unfortunately i think orb liamsi is just another fat guy with few hairs in head wearing spectacles,,,, who wud want to be his shouldren to cry on?? :o :o i suggest bro nga cheng to be his shoulder to cry on then ,,,coz i know he wont reply with that id,,,, :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4wil Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. I find an EA that perform well on demo account, it's Mylucky5pro... :arrow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4051fx Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. I find an EA that perform well on demo account, it's Mylucky5pro... :arrow: good job z4wil am autotrader too and have new paradigm that we can build our dream as much as you can and don't let any body interfere your dream :peace: Quote 4051fx.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ liamsi Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. I find an EA that perform well on demo account, it's Mylucky5pro... :arrow: what settings what results please provide details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ liamsi Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. I wish orb liamsi is a cute girl with long hair,,,,,,,,,, it is so much fun to see how a preety girl having big dreams and soon shaatered away and i can be her shoulder to cry on,,,!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: but unfortunately i think orb liamsi is just another fat guy with few hairs in head wearing spectacles,,,, who wud want to be his shouldren to cry on?? :o :o i suggest bro nga cheng to be his shoulder to cry on then ,,,coz i know he wont reply with that id,,,, :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: i dont appreciate your comments if u have nothing to contribute leave in peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4051fx Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: Quote 4051fx.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. sure,,, i 'd rather watch iron man or james bond then to see u fly with ur accounts,,,, oops,,demo accounts,,!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. sure,,, i 'd rather watch iron man or james bond then to see u fly with ur accounts,,,, oops,,demo accounts,,!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: @Tokoroshini; @liamsi shared an idea with us ; No reason to write anything negative way or Especially Personal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokoroshini Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. he shared an idea,,,, i gave my comments,,,,,,, lets all see who is beeing irrasional,,, he told me to leave in peace,,, so i went,,,,,, :peace: :peace: this is nothing new,,,,, u will find many people day dreaming ,,,, 100usd-millionaires,,, is nothing but spreading fasle expectation to newbies,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4wil Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. what settings what results please provide details. You can visit this thread : http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=996 I'm still tweaking the parameters.... :ugeek: *The default settings seems good, just use small risk and Target. But i doubt in real account the "Big Boy" i mean broker will let this EA Win...Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K12 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Ok. Here is a senario which might give some light to the matter for those who really wish to contribute their ideas. Lets say you starting capital is $5000. This is to be specific. a. How much money you think it would be realisticly possible to make in a year? :arrow: b. What would be then the annual percentage of profit? :arrow: Think about it! :?: Please try to support your senario with some maths :o if you can. :peace: :arrow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1713006271 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. Woah, 24 posts in one day. It must be a record on this forum :D I can't resist to join I believe only in the forex market that this possible. Now the question is how do you double your money every month. Disagree! Index, gold futures, commodity futures, etc could also make the same result as forex. In fact, index market would get you faster to your 1st million than forex. If you compare profits between forex and index... forex sucks! the people who makes those EA knows that such EA are not profitable in the long run,,,otherwise why wud he sell it ,,,,,,moreover,,why wud he sell it on the net? Agree! 100% agree! I don't believe in any holy grail. Thus, I believe all EA and all trading system SUCK! the answer lies in finding the right expert advisor or method that can do this. My opinion for EA or Trading system.... They all suck :D the more money in ur account the less % u can make,,,,,, those huge fund managers hold billions of usd,,,,for them 3% wud be enough,,,,,, don't get mistaken! Disagree! I have to disagree. I'll give 2 example of humongous fund manager which hold billions of dollars. Fidelity is known for the consistent of 13% un-compound profits in the time of Peter Lynch. Quantum fund is known to earn 65% profit even after George Soros resigned. Well, at Soros time, the profit is even bigger. Sorry, but I have to tell you this. You're wrong, terribly wrong my friend. It is impossible. Not even in ten million chances. Disagree! There is nothing impossible above the earth and under the sky. I repeat... There is nothing impossible. heres your proof after only two nights of trading. I respect liamsi, and the statement below is not directed for him/her, but for all of us. I do NOT care about 2 days profit. Even if you can make $10,00 from $100 in 1 night (like 1 silly EA in this forum. My God! Don't people have brain to count? What's the seller thinking?), I would not care. It just skips my eyes. If you bring me a proof of at least 1 month trading, I'll take a glance. If you give me a proof of at least 6 months, I'll bookmark and save the thread. 2 days profit? My God! Come on guys, these EAs have been on the net quite long. There are people out there who already tested them before we are even born. Why start all over again? Post those results along with your results. Now that what I call interesting. Nothing wrong with "Dreaming" :) Agree! I love to dream. I live in dream. Hmmm.... I've also read somebody here about "i'm confused of many EA, my test, no profit, etc" So, i'll just runt while i'm in the mood ok. So forgive me being talkative. :D Here's what I look in EA / trading system... Here's how I find my way to my 1st million... (Please remember that these are subjective. These are my point of views, it might not suit yours) - I only believe in trading manually. I don't like some script to control my money. - I don't mind about EA, if I find a good EA, i'll study the method and trade manually - In searching for EA / TS (trading system) the 1st thing I look is the risk and reward ratio. This means the stop loss and take profit, not the results of profit / loss. I take the nature, not the result, of that EA/TS for the risk reward ratio. - If the nature of the EA/TS is negative risk/reward (stop loss is bigger than take profit) than I'll just skip the EA/TS. - There is a debate everywhere on the net that EA/TS with negative RR could bring profit by winning more. Well, nothing is impossible, but I always believe the adage that "You could never beat the market". Meaning, I want to come out as a winner even if I was wrong. I don't like the feeling of winning 5 times and then lose 1 time, then get back to square one. I love the feeling of being right 1 time and lose 5 times and get back to square one. I don't like to risk more money (in each and single trade) than the possibility of gaining money. - I don't like scalping EA/TS. The take profit should be at least 30 pips, no less. 5 pips profit and 100 pips profit require same effort, so why choose 5 over 100? - I HATE (yes, read the word... HATE) martiangle. It's a bad money management in my opinion. - I believe we could gain 100% profit in one month. I've seen people gaining +600% profit in one month. - However, I also believe the adage "high risk high return", to get fantastic result, you should be a daredevil. If you are an ordinary man, you only get ordinary result. My great grandfather is not dumb, if forex is low risk and high return he would be in forex from a long time. So, to get 100% profit monthly, you need to risk more with your trading system. But remember that everything is possible. It is possible that you earn 100% monthly, it is also possible that you loss 100% of your money. next question, which is the most important question, is the question from Liamsi 1st post... how to know which one is for you? There are many EA/TS here that could help you with that. I'll give you some clues... - Do you know that our mod, SEFC opens a private fund? He has gain, what I believe, consistent and not too shabby profits month in and month out. Do you know his trading system? - You've read that our mod, Bielcomp wins a forex championship. Do you know his trading system? - Which do you believe: test results from EA sellers, or test results by ordinary members from other forum? Cubicrey has shared EAs from another forum, which have been tested for years (read: years, not days) by the members of that forum. Why reinvent the wheel? Do you know which EAs are those? - I've shared some manual trading system from other forum that has been tested for 8 years (have you tested something for 8 years?) and proven to be profitable consistently. Do you know the trading systems? - I'm not saying that Liamsi suggested EAs' are bad. I just haven't read the 1 year testing result of those EAs. If they are proven to be profitable, I'll save them. Well, perhaps I could then change the name, and sell them for quick money to those innocent newbies HAHAHAHA :D :mrgreen: I do test new EAs or TSs. But please, be reasonable and always distrust the sellers statement. So don't get lost in your ways here. It's a jungle out here, and it sucks! You'll love it! Regards, Quote Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai. Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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