What's the best trading system for a beginner?

[FxJeff]

So what's the best, easiest to understand and most profitable trading system for a beginner?

 

Please let me know pros and cons as I'm searching for a system that is right for a complete beginner like me.

 

Jeff.

[dk1aussie]

So what's the best, easiest to understand and most profitable trading system for a beginner?

 

Please let me know pros and cons as I'm searching for a system that is right for a complete beginner like me.

 

Jeff.

 

have a look here

 

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please leave thanks....

[kimimax]

DDFX trading System is Good

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/6054-DDFX-Forex-Trading-System

you can use with this system Heiken Ashi or Xard candles

[freddy]

Jeff,

you are lucky enough to be a beginner and do not yet have been contaminated by the major flaw of many traders: the quest for the grail.

 

What I mean by that is that unfortunately many of us have sought and sometimes still looking for the new system, the new miracle indicator that will make them millionaires in a flash.

 

What a waste of time. (Unfortunately I lost myself a lot of time with the same flaws as some of those traders who form the community of this wonderful forum II)

 

Learn and read the ideas of one or the other is important, test, practice and seek with tenacity, the best way to trade is important.

 

The thing to say is that the recipe, the grail, do not exist. Do not fall into this trap.

 

You must think, "he mocks me, he is negative, bitter or stupid."

 

The chance you have of being "virgin" should instead allow you begin this journey into forex with faith and determination.

 

There are certainly many very good traders that can help you here.

 

If I personally had to give you advice, I'd say:

 

Learn to "trade manually"

forget all the EA (99% are BS),

focus on the "Price Action" with the least possible indicator. (put "Price Action" in search engine to find threads)

 

The most important thing in trading is not the system, but Money Management.

 

 

Learn on demo how to use your trading platform, and to test your new strategies.

 

Trade your strategy with REAL money but with a micro account (1cent/pip) until you are able to double your account.

 

If you blow up your account, it won't damage your capital neither your psychology.

 

 

Gradually increase the bets until you find your "zone" of comfort.

Always know before pressing the button BUY or SELL, what you "agree" to lose by following the principles of MM.

Take this as a real job, certainly pleasant and fun, but not like a gameboy.

 

Well, I think others can advise you better than me, but know that I wish you the best possible success.

freddy

[gege.aig]

So what's the best, easiest to understand and most profitable trading system for a beginner?

 

Please let me know pros and cons as I'm searching for a system that is right for a complete beginner like me.

 

Jeff.

 

if you do not want difficult, try surefire trading system

[juicyt]

Too many variables FXJeff. You must answer questions before others can help you. You must know what type of trader you plan to become, how much time you can commit, the expectations you have and if they are honest, the time frame you will trade and during what hours the market is open.... Answer these type of things then people will point you in somewhat of a direction.

[alansim]

Very well said Freddy. Totally agreed.

[conglo]

You will not like this answer.

The best system for you is probably the one you make up for yourself.

This takes a lot of time and effort.

This process usually involves buying, looking for and testing others' systems anyway, despite the advice, and realizing the truth of my original statement after years of failure.

 

Like any business, you will need to invest something before you see a return.

Get a trial copy of "Forex Tester", just Google for it.

You will probably want to purchase it.

This will allow you to experiment and test strategies in a very efficient manner.

 

Forget EAs. They are for entertainment only and a waste of money at that.

 

Don't believe most of what you read or hear. 95% of it is worthless, including all the business about stops. 95% of what you hear and read is from the 95% who cannot trade.

 

You should be able to trade without any indicators.

As said above, it is all about money management.

 

Contrary to what you will read, entries are nowhere as important as exits. If you know what you are doing you can enter at random and profit.

 

95% of traders do NOT succeed. Do not make the mistake of automatically thinking you are one of the 5%. Statistically you probably are not. Only 5% of anyone here is, and I am not either.

 

This is a very difficult racket.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. DON'T GIVE UP.

 

 

So what's the best, easiest to understand and most profitable trading system for a beginner?

 

Please let me know pros and cons as I'm searching for a system that is right for a complete beginner like me.

 

Jeff.

Edited January 17, 2011 by conglo

[gege.aig]

So what's the best, easiest to understand and most profitable trading system for a beginner?

 

Please let me know pros and cons as I'm searching for a system that is right for a complete beginner like me.

 

Jeff.

 

you have an edge

[chrisbenjy]

95% of traders fail. Of these traders, most of them are using mechanical systems created by others. System's which can be operated by a brain dead chipmunk.

 

If you want to be in the 5%, trade without a system (Not to be confused with trading without a plan). Don't just short because an indicator turned red or go long because it's green. Use price action.

 

See, Conglo knows it. I wish you good luck Conglo.

[pipspot]

I don't agree with the idea of promoting 'simple' technical systems as fx is always fundamentally driven but the 10 minute wealth builder system using the pin bar reversal on the day timeframe is a good starting point, you can trade it on the 4 hour chart for more opportunities but its far more prone to fake outs. As ever demo demo demo

hxxp://r@[email protected]/files/444034853/[email protected]

[Freddie]

Lots of good advice here Jeff, only trouble is that it comes from people who have put in the time learning.

 

There is no system like you are wanting. Not for you, there isn't. The reason is that you have to know things that you cannot answer yet. Conglo has set it out, Freddy - with a Y that is not me (IE) has told you the whole story pretty well (except there is a Holy Grail and I am still looking for it but sush not a word to (Y))

 

I have gone from 1m charts with simple rules to Day charts. Lots of people end up there.

 

My preferred system is breakouts on a 15min TF because I cannot alter my EA to trade properly... This is just an EA to open and clost trades at levels set, not a magic robot that will blow my account.

Since I am awake at the midnight GMT I am looking for an End of Day system while I wait for the London open for my breakout trade to start.

 

With all due respect to Pipspot, I find the pin bar reversal too difficult whereas the Inside Bar daily system, in the same book is my idea of simple and easy...and time saving. BUT, that is my opinion... Pipspot can use PBs whic I cannot!

[jjames]

Intradat you don't need fundamentals that's my oppinion. For a beginner i think a simple startegy with pa will make him profitable. (for example lindencourt) But you most understand price action first and get chart experience. For the rest i say again fundamentals is not for intraday but long term position trading.

 

Learn to trade a triad for example eu, eur/chf and the usd/chf is a triad but you can also do eu,gu,eg for a noob. But thats my oppinion.

 

Money management is the key to all with your mental state but that will take some time and losing some money to figure that out ;) but thats the game if you like it or not you gonna blow some accounts.

 

jj

[jjames]

You will not like this answer.

The best system for you is probably the one you make up for yourself.

This takes a lot of time and effort.

This process usually involves buying, looking for and testing others' systems anyway, despite the advice, and realizing the truth of my original statement after years of failure.

 

Like any business, you will need to invest something before you see a return.

Get a trial copy of "Forex Tester", just Google for it.

You will probably want to purchase it.

This will allow you to experiment and test strategies in a very efficient manner.

 

Forget EAs. They are for entertainment only and a waste of money at that.

 

Don't believe most of what you read or hear. 95% of it is worthless, including all the business about stops. 95% of what you hear and read is from the 95% who cannot trade.

 

You should be able to trade without any indicators.

As said above, it is all about money management.

 

Contrary to what you will read, entries are nowhere as important as exits. If you know what you are doing you can enter at random and profit.

 

95% of traders do NOT succeed. Do not make the mistake of automatically thinking you are one of the 5%. Statistically you probably are not. Only 5% of anyone here is, and I am not either.

 

This is a very difficult racket.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. DON'T GIVE UP.

 

Conglo i agree with what you saythe best is first to understand the market and what it is (behaviour human behaviour and not on the tick or 1 min charts because that are goldmans robots ;). But i think indicators can help a trader to devolop a edge. I dont believe trading just tottaly naked will help you need a edge but start with the roots of the chart and thats pa. Then devolop some things for example trow in a oscilator that will give you a signal for confirmation some ma's for the trend and you have a system/ Then still you dont trade the indicator but let's say you are in a healty uptrend and price is building a base (accumalation) this is also the time the indicator is oversold overbought then place pending order above an catch the breakout price accumalates sometimes to build up orders and most of the time will first do a false breakout. to suck in lot of sell orders and then flows back in the accumalation and hunt the stops above where you order is and creates liquidity price profit taking phase. Then at the middle of the price force the trendfollowers go in and get also a piece what creates even more liquidity but those guys need bigger stops. And go most of the time for to big targets and greed will kill them if the don't have the right mindset

 

jj

Edited January 23, 2011 by jjames

[soundfx]

Hi Guys,

 

I believe that confirmation is the key to having a good system whether you're scalping off the 5m/15m charts or looking at swing trading the daily charts.

 

It is possible to trade price action only, however if you're new to trading then this can be very tricky especially in the lower timeframes.

 

Take candle formations for example...The critical rule is that a candle formation can't be considered as a valid confirmed trade entry until that candle has closed. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen spike candles for example pointing short on a 4H candle with around 1 hour left to complete and have traded short too early only to find that the candle totally reverses in the next hour and I'm left nursing a loss (though you could end up heavily under water depending on your money management skills) when price suddenly turns and I'm now looking at a bullish candle on the 4H! The worst thing at this point is that you then look at the Daily and find that Daily is bullish too...eeek! If this sort of thing happens relatively easily on the 4H, you can be sure that effect will be magnified several times over on the lower timeframes. In particular be aware that the end or start of a new hour in particular can give rise to candle formations changing substantially.

 

Also, again for price action traders...when price appears to cut through a Support or Resistance line like butter, don't jump into the trade in the same direction despite the apparent momentum. Price bounces at S/R levels more often than it breaks through them, so to maintain your edge, you need to sit on your hands and watch price zoom through that level and trade it when it comes back through the same level in the opposite direction to the "breakout". Of course, there will be times when price cuts through these levels with ease and just goes on and on in the same direction, however these are few and far between and you shouldn't see them as missed opportunties. In fact, when you see that price is not going to spike and come back through an S/R level, it's generally safe to jump in and trade with the momentum of the breakout - though this can sometimes be tricky to judge and you should be wary of getting in too late as you don't want to be caught on the wrong end of a spike - as a general rule don't trade with momentum when price is outside the Bollinger Bands as this is the prime area for price to reverse from with a stonking great spike. Don't worry about not being in the perfect trade where price rockets in one direction like crazy and you're not aboard that train early enough - there will be plenty of other opportunities to make money.

 

What you use as extra confirmation in terms of indicators is up to you and you need to try out different indicators to see which suits your style of trading best. Note that all conventional indicators are "lagging" i.e. they are only showing you where price has gone in the past. in a variety of different forms.

 

The best indicators to use are those which are "forward thinking", here we're moving into the realms of predicting where price is going to go next. Fibonacci levels are one such indicator (and pivots another) - though if you don't as beginner want to learn all that stuff, then be aware that if price goes up 100 pips and momentum up is strong then it's likely to drop 50% of that before it carries on in the direction of the trend again.

 

One of the better forward indicators is using the conventional MACD, RSI or Stochastics and looking for divergence between those indicators and price itself. Divergence can used alone to give you a big edge in trading and although hard to remember at first, it's well worth putting in the effort.

 

If you see a previously bullish candle closing in a spike (price action) and divergence tells you that price is likely to come down next (confirmation) then you can confidently enter short and expect a good result. That good result won't always come lol, however if you follow good money mangement, you can ensure that on average you're always on the winning side :)

[freddy]

Lots of good advice here Jeff, only trouble is that it comes from people who have put in the time learning.

 

There is no system like you are wanting. Not for you, there isn't. The reason is that you have to know things that you cannot answer yet. Conglo has set it out, Freddy - with a Y that is not me (IE) has told you the whole story pretty well (except there is a Holy Grail and I am still looking for it but sush not a word to (Y))

 

I have gone from 1m charts with simple rules to Day charts. Lots of people end up there.

 

My preferred system is breakouts on a 15min TF because I cannot alter my EA to trade properly... This is just an EA to open and clost trades at levels set, not a magic robot that will blow my account.

Since I am awake at the midnight GMT I am looking for an End of Day system while I wait for the London open for my breakout trade to start.

 

With all due respect to Pipspot, I find the pin bar reversal too difficult whereas the Inside Bar daily system, in the same book is my idea of simple and easy...and time saving. BUT, that is my opinion... Pipspot can use PBs whic I cannot!

 

Hi Fredd(IE),

 

Indeed, lots of good advice, as you say, 14 answers already, but Jeff has probably found its own:

HOL(Y) grail, or should i say its own:

ô, L(IE), grail.

 

 

 

Very good week full of pep and pips!

Fredd(Y)

 

P.S.: Amazing, a part of your message is unreadable to me!

P.P.S. : Ah, of course, I will approach a candle (Japanese) near my screen, I had not thought you were using invisible ink!

[pipspot]

@ Freddie equally I couldn't make the inside bar setup work consistently. I guess it goes to prove that as has been said already...the best systems are the ones that work for you :)

[moritzm]

I can recommend "Peter Bains - Trading like the big dogs". You can find it in the Download Section for Movies.

Its the real basic stuff (simple) and it works. I used on my own! I can't recommend trading with a demo account! Sure, if you're a totally newbie you should trade on one but if you have a little idea whats forex about you should go live. Go live with a cent account put 10 $ on it and trade. You get a better feeling for trading with money and we're all knowing that demo trading is totally different from trading a real account!

Good luck my friend and stay safe :)

[drlinux]

Start learn from trend line, fibonacci retracement, and candle stick. But most important is money management. that's all I do

[scarface]

Hi,

 

simply focus on High Low of different time frames, Moving averages SMA123, SAM162, SMA62, EMA 74, SMA100 , SMA200, SMA 210

and if you like to be more accurate practice the fibonaccie...

 

for the High Low, you can use any indicator to show you previous and current ones...

 

I hope this is useful,

 

Best wishes,

 

SF

[⭐ osijek1289]

Lots of surprisingly good answers to the OP's question (who's never posted again!).

 

I don't see Volume Spread Analysis listed here so I will throw my hat in the ring. But it's imperative to echo the posting of many wise others that no system is 100%, nor would I say 100% profitable in the long run. Spot FX behaves differently from day to day, driven by human emotion, but the algorithm trading explosion over the last year has been a big factor too. It's possible to use wildy different systems from day to day, week to week, but you have to know how to read the market, so choosing the system is a crapshoot too. Although this board is big and extremely helpful on EAs/robotic systems, I do not believe a profitable one can be implemented by the average retailer. And, given the losses they ALL generate, and factoring in one's time to dilly-dally hours, weeks & months away, I would say that energy is better used towards technicals, with a focus on VSA.

 

VSA is tremendously successful in all markets with volume. True spot fx doesn't have actual volume but rather tick transactional volume, which gives the same results, with a decent datafeed. VSA is less than one-third volume quantity specific, with the remainder being the span of bars and where they close, to read current and overall strength, against supply & demand zones. It is a variation of Wyckoff fundamentals, which should also be studied. There is a generous plethora of material available all over the web, and there's no reason IMO to pay money to learn it. But, it does take time, and many thousands of screen hours, but that's what trading demands. The 95% that fail are part of the sheep that constantly are attracted to the market, spend little time learning properly, or lose their money, and never come back. But it is possible to profit, but the journey is very, very slow.

[DooMGuarD]

i think... if you like the Forex...

you must go besides beginning with a simple system

 

you must understand and study this simple system...

only after that you will be able to say to be a beginner...

 

in all the cases I suggest a system of movable averages...

[forexaffiliatez0]

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[wirefax]

Hi, everyone ..... Does the method of martingale in forex trading?

[mantkinth]

like some other people have already said, learn Price Action first! Ignore all the fancy indicators until you have it down pat. Also learn about candlesticks, then you can slowly add indicators like MA's, Stochs etc.

Remember in the end price action trumps everything :-)