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Can some one please share!

 

Here is the link to some of his free stuff on his site (I only need to fill in an email address on the main page to get to this page):

 

http://www.the-natural-flow.com/back/backfxnews.html

 

Not sure if the Natural Flow is within all those links, because I have not gone through them myself, as I am currently focusing and testing on some other methods/systems right now. So good luck. And if it is not in this link, hope someone else can share when it is available. Cheers.

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Took a quick glance of the Manual after my previous post, agree with Diesel 10, useless for most people who are already on this forum.

 

Anyway, after my previous post, when I checked my email, I received a very very long email from Mr Harris, and an attachment.

 

Since I am not sure how useful (or useless) they are to others, I uploaded his attachment at:

 

http://www.4shared.com/file/Q8B6gwMD/attachments_2010_04_29.html

 

Note: his email is so long, I had to cut out his "Risk warning" legal brah brah, and deleted a few useless symbols, just to make it not exceed forum post limit, see it below.

 

Also, to be honest, I do not have the time or the interest to read through his entire email in detail, or watch all his videos. So I can only holpe some of it is useful. If not, my apology.

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And Mr Harris' entire email as follows:

 

[start email]:

 

Craig here,

 

Thanks for taking my survey. I will make sure to address your

comments in the upcoming free videos. If you haven't taken the

survey then click the link below it's very short.

 

(Survey Link)

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=HUSS_&m=LVdsn05Uz.Bzb0&b=XlYO37mJ_NPJHdXgfKMnvw

 

(Video Link)

Here is the link to all of my free training videos, there is a blog

link below in case you need to ask me a question.

 

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=HUSS_&m=LVdsn05Uz.Bzb0&b=AVSgwmVcxdc3CEIEFyVB5w

 

8 Years Ago when I was starting out I wish I would have had someone

to guide me through the real basics of trading the Forex. For

instance it took me a while to understand that brokerages offer all

kinds of free training signals and alerts because they want you to

trade through their firms. But what they don't tell you is that

they take the other side of every trade (THEY TRADE AGAINST YOU).

 

In other words if you win they loose, so it's in their best

interest for you to loose so they can win. That means you will

experience re-quotes, dealing station delays and even no response

to your trade entries. All of which eventually loose you money.

 

Fortunately there are some options for the trader. Many Brokerages

and Banks have stopped this practice and are honest with your

entries and exits. You need to shop around and find those

Brokerages and Banks.

 

Another way to ensure good fills is to use what is known as an

Introducing Broker (IB's). These are independent businesses that

represent several traders at the same time. By doing this they

provide clout with the Brokers and Banks, because while the

brokerage or bank might disregard you as an individual they won't

disregard hundreds of traders (there is safety in numbers).

Generally these IB's have found the best Brokerages and Banks to

deal with and that saves you a lot of headache trying to find; then

test them out for yourself. You are represented and it does not

cost you anything because the Brokerages and Banks like to deal in

bigger numbers and not in onesy twosey's. The Brokerages and Banks

pay the IB's to bring business to them so you don't have to.

 

There are other strategies that you need to know if you are going

to trade through a Brokerage, I cover this in more detail at my

blog. Check out the blog at:

 

(Blog Link)

http://www.craigharris-forex-education.com/blog/?p=6&awt_l=HUSS_&awt_m=LVdsn05Uz.Bzb0#comments

 

Also feel free to ask me any Forex trading questions you may have,

with my 8 years of experience I can shorten your learning curve

dramatically, so that you can be a more profitable trader.

 

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OSCILLATORS OSCILLATORS OSCILLATORS

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O.K. NEXT...

 

In order for you to start practicing what I am showing you on the

charts it will be best if you have the MT4 platform downloaded.

If you don't have one yet, feel free to use this link to download

one:

 

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=HUSS_&m=LVdsn05Uz.Bzb0&b=szsgqs28mC6kpqCVs.SCDw

 

After you have installed the MT4 platform you must now install the

indicators.

 

The indicators I use for the swH/L trade are: Slow Stochastic's

(SS) with a setting of 8 3 3 , Fractals and Support/Resistance .

I am attaching the SS and Support/Resistance indicators and feel

free to put them on your charts. The Fractals are already a part

of the charting indicator package.

 

I have included the indicators as an attachment.

 

Once you have installed your indicators you can now open your

Charts and from the Navigator go to Custom Indicators and add them.

 

The swH/L Video, the Oscillator Video and the Big Number (BN) Video

will give you a nice tradeable strategy that I call the swH/L Trade

and I use it everyday. The Oscillator Video is simple and will

make sense even to the brand new beginner. It is the next part of

the THREE factors that need to be considered each time you look to

enter a trade. So make sure to watch the swH/L Video again, and

watch this Oscillator Video a couple of times to make sure you

understand. Start watching the Natural Up and Down Flow of the

Market in relation to Swings and looking for agreement with the SS.

 

 

Also once I got this trade down, I really started to be consistent

in my profitability, and that is when our Lifestyle really changed.

 

I knew how to earn money while I was on vacation ... My wife and I

started to stay gone longer, instead of having to come back home

after a weekend trip or even a few days because I had to go to work

... I could stay 10-14 days have fun and not worry about the bills.

Because of the leverage of the Forex I just did not need to make a

killing every day. I just needed to be consistent with 40+ pips

per day.

 

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BIG NUMBERS BIG NUMBERS BIG NUMBERS

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The Big Numbers Video will help tie together the Swings and

Oscillator for the Swing High/Swing Low trade.

 

I want to insert a disclaimer here:

 

Please keep in mind that what I am giving to you are TOOLS to use

with your trade selections. There are multiple parts to trading.

We use tools like Indicators, Fibs, Oscillators, Tokyo Channel,

News, Money Management Formulas, even entry points like BN's and

stop losses to execute a trade. They have rules, but are not

really trading strategies.

 

 

That is the other part of trading, knowing what to do once you're

in a trade and it goes against you and stops you out, and having

the know how to take the information you just bought with your loss

and being able to go get your money back. Not being afraid to take

the loss. Knowing what to do when the market is choppy. Knowing

how to determine trend of not only the day but of the session.

Understanding not just the Natural Flow but also the psychology of

fear and greed that drives everyone including yourself. Knowing

the market so well that you can Counter Trend Trade within the

Natural Flow of the market. Knowing that you can just get into the

market in any direction at any time and be able to get out within a

trade or two with overall Profit.

 

 

For every tool I am going to give you there is a counter part

having to do with Natural Flow, Multiple Strategy's, Experience,

Sessions you are trading, Time of Day, Ranges, Price Action, and

even your Confidence. What I am talking about is your Blueprint

for Trading. This is where and why the overwhelming majority of

traders DON'T get it. This is not something you can get overnight

or even in weeks or months......it takes years of trading to

understand this. So if this does not make sense to you.......it

means you have not been trading long enough....don't feel bad as

most are in the exact same spot. The hardest part of this to

understand for most is: You don't know what you don't know!

 

If you really want to change your career, if you really want to

change your lifestyle, if you really want to earn a High 6 figure

income and not take years to do it, then there is only one way to

shorten that learning curve. How does anyone really learn to be

good at what they do?

 

 

...Experience ...

 

 

No amount of books, courses, seminars, signal services can

substitute for someone taking you through the process of giving you

their experience over and over and over. Trading is not something

you can get on your own without putting in YEARS of Face Time.

Remember you don't know what you don't know. So you are going to

have to make the choice......be taught by someone who knows how to

trade, or be willing to trade 20 hours a week minimum for several

Years, ... or QUIT... everything else is a waste of time and money

.... A Waste of Your Time and Your Money!

 

By the way, we will be done with the survey soon and you

will be surprised at how many are just like you.

 

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BIG NUMBER ENTRY BIG NUMBERS ENTRY BIG NUMBER ENTRY

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Please watch all 4 videos several times. This swH/L Trade is an

Entry Technique that I use every day. It is a tool that makes

Trade Entries Mechanical.

 

It is not a Trade Strategy. Trade Strategies include other factors

like:

 

Trend Identification, Session Identification, Trade Time

Identification, Tokyo Channel Identification, Risk/Money Management

Identification, and News Identification.

 

Having said that, with practice in trading with the Natural Up and

Down Flow of the market you should be able to get 40 pips a day of

profit. My advice would be to quit once you get your 40 pips for

without all the other Parts of Trading in Play.....you will over

trade without proper knowledge and you will lose. Once you have

learned and can apply the Strategical Parts of Trading (the mental

side), then you will have a Blueprint for Trading and can really

grow your account exponentially.

 

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SESSIONS SESSIONS SESSIONS SESSIONS SESSIONS SESSIONS

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Understanding what session you are in and which sessions overlap

each other, will help you to know when to trade with the trend or

counter trend trade. (MAJOR TIP!!!)

 

I want to stress that each of these videos fit's into an overall

trading strategy "WHAT I CALL MY BLUEPRINT FOR TRADING". This

BLUEPRINT over time helped me to become automatic in my everyday

trading thus giving me what I always wanted, more money and a

career change.

 

Whatever you do please don't give up, don't quit. Remember I took

over 40 e-book courses, had 5 mentors, bought several robots and

attended dozens of seminars. If I can do it (A SIMPLE CONSTRUCTION

WORKER) so can you!

 

Take Care,

 

-Craig.

 

P.S. SERIOUSLY FOLKS, THIS IS POWERFUL STUFF. BE SURE TO STUDY

THESE VIDEOS AS THEY REVEAL MORE AND MORE AS YOU WATCH THEM OVER

AND OVER.

 

To go back and watch the videos click link below.

 

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=HUSS_&m=LVdsn05Uz.Bzb0&b=AVSgwmVcxdc3CEIEFyVB5w

 

 

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lirimo Newbie

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Hi Guys,

I've just watched some of his videos and here a short summary:

 

- Concentrating on M15 for trading

- Trading with the main trend

- Using Support and Resistance and try to take those swings

- Incorporating previous session's high/low (Tokyo Channel)

- Using Stochastic

- Using candlestick patterns (from his ebooks)

 

He's telling us a lot of the same stuff as Chris Lori. Please add you additional key elements if missing. I may read the complete FF thread on this. May be a nice add-in to my method.

 

L

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This system is mostly the five bar reversal on the 15M chart. CH has added a few well known extras with new 'marketing' names and is pushing his $5k mentoring.

All you need is the free stuff. Try to take the simple view and blot out the boring marketing bit.

 

Freddie

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Hi Guys,

 

Does anyone has the following links working?

 

http://www.the-natural-flow.com/back/backfxnews.html

 

- Swing Trader Report

 

- The Tokyo Channel

 

- Money Management

 

It has been quite a while since this site has been updated (not so sure if it is going to be updated).

 

Please let me know if there is another link.

 

Or is it possible for someone to share the Complete Membership course?

 

Many thanks in advance.

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I found link on Tactools

 

This contains seven webinars of Craig Harris, one of the successful forex traders.

They are very helpful if you use his method of trading forex.

Are all of good quality and great length. Webinars are from session made from 2009 and 2010.

 

Hotfile:

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Default Password = tactools.org

 

For more info on Craig Harris visit: http://www.the-natural-flow.com

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haven't checked out the web seminars yet..but i have seen the vids on his site, and it's alright him saying get in on ups and downs of the market as each one is 30-60pips but how do you know when the market has finished it's movement? fractuals appear after the next candle so here you may have already lost 30+ pips before they appear and movement may be over. The oscillator vid (with the 8,3,3 Stoch) is stupid, he says look for the angle of the stoch moving in a 6-4 o'clock direction...you can only do this after the move, in hindsight, not when the moves about to happen. hopefully the web seminars above can actualy show how he proposes you do it when a trade is about to happen and not after...anyone can say that.
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haven't checked out the web seminars yet..but i have seen the vids on his site, and it's alright him saying get in on ups and downs of the market as each one is 30-60pips but how do you know when the market has finished it's movement? fractuals appear after the next candle so here you may have already lost 30+ pips before they appear and movement may be over. The oscillator vid (with the 8,3,3 Stoch) is stupid, he says look for the angle of the stoch moving in a 6-4 o'clock direction...you can only do this after the move, in hindsight, not when the moves about to happen. hopefully the web seminars above can actualy show how he proposes you do it when a trade is about to happen and not after...anyone can say that.

 

Hi Kraven, I don't have a torch to carry for the guy but...

 

Harris shows that with a 15min chart we get those swings. If you use the 5 bar reversal or the 3rd Candle or indeed Good Old Karl Dittmans '10 pips whenever you want', you might strike out or you might get on a runner.

 

He says if you do take every move, good or bad, that you will win overall.

 

The stochs business is not for the whole move but the little bit at the start of the move. Use the cross hairs at the start of the move and look what the stochs are doing. I use the 5min for the beginning or end of the move. There are actually many systems that use the break of the stochs from its 80 or 20 level as a confirmation.

 

All he has done is take a few well known public domain items and made a system to sell. Swings; Tokyo Channel(or Asian Session as some people call it); Big Numbers (Psych. Numbers, ***00, ***50 etc); Double if you lose; Fractals (Actually these do show where you should get in [should have got in] but as you say, after.). There are 'secrets' that he will tell you but that is $5,000 a go but he does 'stay' with you all year.

 

With all that there are people who are making money with the system. As they would with 3rd candle,5BR,10pips whenever.

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hi Freddie, i'm not knocking the system. I believe if you did take every trade you'd be profitable, it's how this guy presents it. Just watched vid 1 Q and A, someone asked exactly what i wanted, he marks the possible trades from the top of the move to the bottom, stating a possible 30-60pips, however these are not possible, firstly he has to wait for the turn to have occured and the following candle to close for the fractal, then the next candle to enter (5bar this would be candles 3,4 and 5). all this is eating into his possible 30-60pips, i know he goes for 20-30pips per trade but why does he keep point to the possible 30-60 (marking the very top of the fractal to the bottom of the next fractal). why doesn't he do it right and measure from candle 4 or 5 and say this one was 12pip, this one 26, this 7, this one -23 etc....On the Q and A his dodges a lot of the entry questions like do you wait for the 5th candle to close, what if 3rd and 4th candle are big etc..

 

Also on the Stoch he doesn't really mention the crossover or the level the crossover occured, he's more interested in the angle, of which you don't know most of the time until the move was done.

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I gave up on watching the vids long ago. Saw where he was going with the 'common knowledge' re-named and sold as new.

I suppose that the real answer is "He is a Marketeer". The whole system is about him presenting something simple as something mysterious and magical.

Not too sure that he doesn't say that the cross is not important but that it is this 'magical' angle that is the pointer. Just another way of 'proving' what a clever man he is to have found this special 'trick'.

 

I am sure that the Qs that he doesn't answer are answered in his 'mentoring' for the $5K!!! Although on ForexPeaceArmy someone says that if he cannot explain, he says "keep going, you will get it eventually"

 

When I unsubscribed from his constant e-mails about his latest give-away 'webinar' he asked why. I told him that I thought that he was a crook. He replied that he was offended!!

 

I still think so even though I know that the system can work.

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He's making money off the packages not his method imho. Actually i don't beleive he makes 40 pips a day and doubling up can be dangerous. You have to be insane to give this guy 5k. If you do i would advise a proof of his trading statement.....then i still would be skeptical cause these can be fake . Rob
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as i said i dare say with a bit of care you could end up profitable using similar method.

 

Freddie as for the stochastics take a look at this vid of his, just skip to 4min 30 secs in and you'll see what i mean about him going on about it's angle, thing is he points out the angle we should look for on the right of his chart, he goes on to say we need to have a Stoch that angles between 12o'clock and 2 o'clock for a buy signal, that in real time would be yet to have happened. so it's pretty pointless and makes him sound incompetent

hxxp://www.fxnaturalflow.com/back/Oscillator/Final-Oscillator-Video.html

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... that in real time would be yet to have happened. so it's pretty pointless and makes him sound incompetent

hxxp://www.fxnaturalflow.com/back/Oscillator/Final-Oscillator-Video.html

 

See what you mean, Kraven. He later develops a stoch indi with a coloured bit at the safe trade 'turns'. This is an indi that is only given to his £5K students. Someone else develops one that is available to all. Probably the guys on the FF thread.

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