ryujeans Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker Regarding JadeFX and slippage, it definitely does happen. I typically run a demo platform side-by-side with my live platform in order to check fill quality. A few weeks ago prior to the upgrade, I had a Forex Shoker 1.1 USDCHF trade that executed on the demo platform, took 4 pip profit, and closed the trade. On the live platform it suffered 10 pips of slippage on entry, causing the trade not to hit T/P, eventually causing trade to hit S/L. Of course, I was away from the screen at the gym while this was going on. Grrr.... Anyhow, the most disturbing thing about the whole issue was that the record of the trade was erased from the journal in my MT4 terminal. Usually slippage is minimal, but I wanted to lay out what you could see in a bad case. The reason I opened up the GoMarkets account was in order to run side-by-side with JadeFX in order to evaluate their STP execution versus JadeFX ECN and how it impacts my overall cost of trading and profitability. Just started with them in January so nothing to report yet. And there is no minimum monthly volume for JadeFX, as they now charge a commission. Rollovers are bad though, if you are going to swing trade/trend follow and hold positions overnight or for a few days. They are not as bad as MB Trading, but they are not good, which was another reason to step back and try to evaluate which brokers is best to run my scalpers from a total cost perspective. Thank you very much for sharing your experience with JadeFX! I just want to clarify the followings: Do you mean 10-pips of slippage on entry 1-pip or 10-pips with 4-digt broker? Is JadeFX STP or ECN broker, please? And does it matter whether it is STP or ECN broker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip4Pips Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker By 10 pips, I mean 10 pips equivalent to 4-digit broker, or 100 on five digit. So, that much slippage was definitely a "shocker" so to speak! JadeFX is an ECN; data feed is unfiltered so can be very jumpy. Good for scalping (as long as super bad slippage doesn't get you), but I will not use for position trading. GoMarkets is my first STP, so still difficult to compare Shoker performance between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaKerZ Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker Anyone can share on another miror Shocker 2.0 + manual please ? ^:)^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker Anyone can share on another miror Shocker 2.0 + manual please ? ^:)^ As requested, Forex Shocker 2.0 (manual included) mirrors: http://www.multiupload.com/QRU9BKTSAW [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KUTOMFFJ[/url] [url]http://depositfiles.com/en/files/zrduw31rg[/url] as well as no-dll version: http://www.multiupload.com/HLM937Y590 [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HFTCBGWP[/url] [url]http://depositfiles.com/en/files/ssg5t7bi4[/url] Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mak2009 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker The one with dll files needs to be educated I guess. Any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker As requested, Forex Shocker 2.0 (manual included) mirror: http://www.multiupload.com/QRU9BKTSAW as well as no-dll version: http://www.multiupload.com/HLM937Y590 Enjoy! Anyone please can reupload them to another link, unfortunately i can't access to multiupload from my country (error page, don't know why.... :-?? ) as usual ^:)^ ^:)^ Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipaholic Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker Is there anyone that knows whether Shocker 1 and 2 perform differently. I'm still using 1 but I now have a copy of 2. Are the results better or worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameris Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker The backtest was the same as version 1 ... more or less ;) now running V1 on live acc, running on a demo account from today with agressive setting, will post the results against V1 stay tuned ... :)>- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwang ti puh Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker Regarding JadeFX and slippage, it definitely does happen. I typically run a demo platform side-by-side with my live platform in order to check fill quality. A few weeks ago prior to the upgrade, I had a Forex Shoker 1.1 USDCHF trade that executed on the demo platform, took 4 pip profit, and closed the trade. On the live platform it suffered 10 pips of slippage on entry, causing the trade not to hit T/P, eventually causing trade to hit S/L. Of course, I was away from the screen at the gym while this was going on. Grrr.... Anyhow, the most disturbing thing about the whole issue was that the record of the trade was erased from the journal in my MT4 terminal. Usually slippage is minimal, but I wanted to lay out what you could see in a bad case. The reason I opened up the GoMarkets account was in order to run side-by-side with JadeFX in order to evaluate their STP execution versus JadeFX ECN and how it impacts my overall cost of trading and profitability. Just started with them in January so nothing to report yet. And there is no minimum monthly volume for JadeFX, as they now charge a commission. Rollovers are bad though, if you are going to swing trade/trend follow and hold positions overnight or for a few days. They are not as bad as MB Trading, but they are not good, which was another reason to step back and try to evaluate which brokers is best to run my scalpers from a total cost perspective. Hi, Do you mean MB trading is not good?Why?Then which is the best ECN? please clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip4Pips Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker If you are going to hold positions overnight, MB Trading is not good. They charge rollover on both sides of the transaction and the rollover rates are about twice as high as you would see elsewhere. The commissions are OK, but the rollover hurts. I have traded with them prior to them getting MT4 and I will not trade with them going forward. There are better ECN/STP brokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alansim Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker Can anyone please re upload the latest version ? Thanks in advance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker Hi guys, Good day, I believe you looking for this EA on previous page, hxxp://indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?p=73262#p73262 Best wishes, Quote a New Year 2011 has come, and the challenge has just started 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameris Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker Hi guys sorry for delay... last night results: +shocker2 (Demo acc)(Agressive set)(balance 2000$) UsdCad=> 6+4+4 -4 =10pips UsdChf=> 4+2 =6pips EurChf=> 0pips EurUsd=> 3x 4pips GbpUsd=> 2x -4pips X-( With this balance & agressive settings,it opens various lot sizes from 0.4 to 0.1 total net: 58$ not bad...more margin,more profit 8-) +shocker (Real acc)(Normal set)(balance 700$) EroUsd=> 2x 4pips UsdChf=> 2x 4pips EurChf=> 4pips Total net: 19.55$ with 0.1 lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iraj23 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker i download the shocker 2 with no dll but it does not working would you please someone share it the working shocker 2 lots of thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipaholic Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker I'm really not sure what to think of Shocker, On demo it is working amazing. I went from $5000 to $60000 in 4 months, then down to $30,000 again Since then it has recover and gone back up to $92,000. This has taken a total of 7 months. But when I use it live, it is never as good, Trades don't close as quickly, and I end up hitting more Stoplosses. I've been able to make money with it, but only by babysitting it a lot. I'll keep using it. But it does not perform anywhere near as well live as it does on demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mak2009 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker That is the case with all scalpers. No surprise. This problem exist even on most decent brokers. I left DP, shocker, MD long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plypun Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Re: Forex Shoker As requested, Forex Shocker 2.0 (manual included) mirrors: http://www.multiupload.com/QRU9BKTSAW [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KUTOMFFJ[/url] [url]http://depositfiles.com/en/files/zrduw31rg[/url] as well as no-dll version: http://www.multiupload.com/HLM937Y590 [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HFTCBGWP[/url] [url]http://depositfiles.com/en/files/ssg5t7bi4[/url] Enjoy! After set up this bot. I can see the smile face. But I can't see the information such as authenticated ,timeframe and GMT on the left of screen.It's because of uneducated.Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwang ti puh Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker That is the case with all scalpers. No surprise. This problem exist even on most decent brokers. I left DP, shocker, MD long time ago. Hi, what do you mean?why you are leaving these EA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker are the links listed above educated? because i cannot get either to trade in backtest. Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinj Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker are the links listed above educated? because i cannot get either to trade in backtest. The funny thing is, I can't either, only version 1.1, but running forward test, both live and demo, i can't get trades on 1.1, only v2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipaholic Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker Even if you get it to work, for some reason, Shocker does not backtest well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrillic Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker It backtests well for me, as far as i remember i ran it live and it does generate some kind of profit, i don't like thou. Quote [spoiler:26ukmy10]Never trust, never fear, never beg[/spoiler:26ukmy10] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliotest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker backtest works. “Enable Expert Advisors (except for Custom Indicators and Scripts” MUST be checked. But, for foward test I can't see the information such as authenticated ,timeframe and GMT on the left of screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iraj23 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker i use the no dll but it does not working any one can help me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrillic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Re: Forex Shocker http://depositfiles.com/files/j8fv4vykk Here you go uploaded shocker 2 again. This one should work, it works fine for me (won't backtest usd/cad thou. I've added a different money management where you can just imput risk % instead of agressive true false. I prefer to keep maximum trades on this ea to 1, because double sl will really hurt the account. Other than that it shows promise but it does trade during rollover period (17est, 0gmt) which means some brokers will not take those trades (mb trading for example has bad oe first 15 minutes after rollover period). Here a pic of a backtest i did for usd/chf (one of the few pairs for which i don't have a decent ea yet) Its 9% dd at 20% risk would be 6% at 15%. 100% a year is decent enough from this toy. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7303/shocker2.gif Quote [spoiler:26ukmy10]Never trust, never fear, never beg[/spoiler:26ukmy10] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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