ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

[jackdan]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, we have two ways

1) be inspired by the ISEA, and write a better EA to be used on normal broker, like TadawulFX.

2) using Interactive Broker, and using Ninja Trader, or I have neoticker, to trade with Interactive broker.

 

Which way you select?

 

 

To answer that question, another one has to be made before:

 

1) Can isea be profitable with higher spread and lesser noise? Tweaking it??

 

2) what would the general conditions be talking about cost if we go with other systems, like ninja? because

if we will meet same cost (spread) problems than with mt4, better we go for option 1...

[Forexpro1713006044]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, we have two ways

1) be inspired by the ISEA, and write a better EA to be used on normal broker, like TadawulFX.

2) using Interactive Broker, and using Ninja Trader, or I have neoticker, to trade with Interactive broker.

 

Which way you select?

 

Everybody has in mind Pama’s for points – how to forget them :peace: ,but this is a search for a broker or solution who doesn’t exist.

 

It’s definitely the first way we have to go – to make it work for normal brokers with still good spread and good order-execution.

[finimej]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Right,

If you can't make the market adapt to your trading method, your trading method has to adapt to the market.

[finimej]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Sigma Write this in their agreetment for sign account for both Dealing desk and non Dealing desk account

 

http://www.sigmaforex.com/customer-support-area/trading-agreement.html

 

Violation of trading agreement

by performing harmful trading strategies depending on hunting pips from the market which leave no choice for covering clients orders

 

This ISEA is doing a trading that sigmaForex has no choice for covering clients orders. So if you make a big profits at Sigma, then they can say that you violated the trade agreement and therefore your profits can be deleted.

[Roels Major]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, we have two ways

1) be inspired by the ISEA, and write a better EA to be used on normal broker, like TadawulFX.

2) using Interactive Broker, and using Ninja Trader, or I have neoticker, to trade with Interactive broker.

 

Which way you select?

 

I would do the first choice......!!!

[riffster]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

i think you will be barking up the broker tree for a long time, take the principles of the EA and give it a bit of real world flavour.

 

i think a little bit of a reality check may be in order, who needs that much money, i mean realistically, a nice steady stream of income that can very comfortably be lived on is something more realistically attainable.

 

 

just my 2c

 

 

Peace, Love, Macrami

Riffster

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hello Guys,

 

The Solution is simpler than most of us want to complicate it. The Problem is not the Spreads ( you only need 1 -3 spreads which is offered by most brokers)

 

The Problem is the Kind of Data that you are receiving Most of the MT4 brokers deliver to your MT4 Client what we call FILTERED datafeed. You need UNFILTERED Datafeed (NON SMOOTHED). The reason most brokers deliver filtered data feed is because majority of the new traders do manual trading and they were complaining about the Volatile prices in Forex. So MetaQuotes gave the brokers an Option to either Filter the datafeed to smooth it a bit and remove the volatility ( the frequent up and down rapid movement) or not to filter . All we need is ask a broker to deliver unfiltered Datafeed. Here are the conditions in order of importance

 

1. UNFILTERED REALTIME DATAFEED ( NON- SMOOTHED) -- This is a MUST and the most important forget the Spreads for now.

 

2. LOW SPREADS ( 1 - 3 pips SPREADS ) --- you can get this from most brokers

 

3. HEDGING must be allowed --- You can get this from most brokers apart from those regulated in USA

 

4. SCALPING must be allowed and also Look for FREEZE LEVEL = 0 or 1 --- you can get this from most brokers

 

 

It is all about UNFILTERED DATA. So lets find one

 

For those who are still not sure why the EA does not perform well Please here is an explanation:

 

unfiltered tick data

Many traders have experienced latencies and delayed market updates but few were aware how little of the actual market movement they were seeing even when their platforms appeared to be ‘keeping up’ with the market. Most systems are unable to keep up with volatile markets and compensate by dropping price data only sending the latest updates – sometimes referred to as “filtering.” This helps keep the prices current but doesn’t provide a true look at how the markets are trading.

 

This can easily be seen during active market periods such as economic releases, but is also visible during slower conditions when automated systems are seen rapidly placing and canceling orders at particular price levels. The “fluttering” can often cause the actual quantity to become a blur as it updates in real-time.

 

 

 

Now as you guys know SigmaForex was using UNFILTERED TICK DATA ( The TRUE Market DATA) -- You see the True Picture

 

Here are the Screenshots to illustrate the Point .

 

http://rapid*share.de/files/47265285/Unfiltered_Filtered.rar.html

 

http://rapid*share.de/files/47265295/Unfiltered_Filtered.zip.html

 

 

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THE SOLUTION IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN WE THINK . NEVER COMPLICATE FOREX TRADING AND YOU WILL MAKE MONEY

 

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I will let the forum know if i find one broker who does. I am in talks with certain ECN brokers and they are willing to offer UNFILTERED DATAFEED but they have strings attached . I have even Thought of Starting our own brokerage and get paid through Volume being traded since this EA does high volume and they would allow Scalping. The brokerage risk would be taken by our prime broker.

 

Here is my idea:

 

1. we can start our own brokerage with STP .This is through STP package over by Boston Technologies . They Handle everything and we decide what kind of data we want to deliver to our clients and how the clients pay us. They need US$ 35,000 upfront and US$2,500 monthly

 

2. if we all come together and contribute . e.g 400 traders contributing US$ 100 = US$ 40,000. ( or 800 members conftributing US$ 50) That would cover the setup costs and those who pay that would be the trading members ( Money managers ) of the brokerage. The arrangement will be to have us being paid through Volume being traded by our members traders. Since i already have a Financial Registered Company ( LLC) we can use my Company to make things faster for setup and installation.

 

3. This will allow for UNFILTERED DATAFEED DELIVERY and also LOW SPREADS since will not Mark up spreads fro ourselves ( MEMBERS ) . Similar to what Collectivefx is doing but this will be for members who contributed. No monthly fees or anything . I will Contribute my US$ 100 plus 3 New Servers and a small Office to start up things. The Servers and everything will be hosted at Boston technologies financial Hosting center for redundancy and Fiber High Speed connection to the Liquidity Banks.

 

" My Father always told me if you can't find one that fits you then make or create a system one that fits you " . The problem is not the EA . it is the UNFILTERED DATA that we need

 

If anyone is willing to Join in this idea of having our own forum brokerage please let me know. We can avoid most SCAM Brokers and do our own trading with our own brokerage.

[metalriff]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

A better solution is to not waste your time on a junk EA. :mrgreen:

[finimej]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

pama,

what you are saying, some are right, some are wrong.

Just adapt the ISEA or be inspired by the ISEA, and wrote code for the normal broker- this is pretty easier (couple of days, maybe) than tring to fix the perfect data feed.

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

A better solution is to not waste your time on a junk EA. :mrgreen:

 

To be polite to you i will tell you that in life if you have no solution to a problem you shut up :mrgreen:

 

The fact that we don't have a solution does not mean that someone elsewhere do not have a solution. If you say that it is a junk EA . Imagine what Major Trading houses using the same simple logic called HIGH VOLATILITY HIGH FREQUENCY Model are making . They have the unfiltered data, the spreads, hedging and everything else. That's why they keep on making millions everyday yet you make nothing. Everytime you trade you loose money. Ask yourself why

 

I have been on both sides of the equation. I traded a lot of EAs and i tell when one is complete JUNK or when it has potential

[Stormin_Norman]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

try these things:

 

1. trend direction + only orders in the trend's direction (also solves your hedging problem)

 

2. restrict trading to times of lower volatility

 

those two simple things could have quite a difference.

[APopovA]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

These 2 things will make another Xtreme, Intellectual, FapTurbo etc scalper and take away the High Frequency thing that you seem to like

[drforex]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

i think the range is 2 pips +/- (according to the original ISEA).

[finimej]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, if you think there is no solution, then there is never gonna have a solution for you.

 

I have not been sleeping and sitter here coding for almost 40 hours continuely, I believe in I will solve my problem (or maybe already solved). Actually intelligent labour is also hard labour.

 

Read the ISEA code and try to understand the logic.

ISEA is using simple MA period 16 on close price of M5 timeframe. and fire actual market orders with + and - 5 pips from MA line plus litter buffer. If your traded pair is vibrate in this range all day allone, never mind the freeze level for 5 pips, you still will get good results all day long with take profits 5 pips (because your freeze level forced you to only can take profits at 5 pips distance).

 

Just get the SMA period 16 on your M5 and observe the data!

 

Now my problem is solved, and I am going for sleeping. Last two and half days, I have been only sleeping for total 8 hours.

 

Try to adapt the code to your current broker is the way.

searching for the perfect datafeed is not gonna to work.

 

Last week, I spent 4 days to looking for the perfect broker and runing test on many many brokers, not succeed.

then I spent 2 and half day non-sleeping to adapt the code to my current broker, get ok result already on backtest. At the end, the solution is normally pretty simple, because original ISEA code is simple and yet brilliant!

[noplan88]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, if you think there is no solution, then there is never gonna have a solution for you.

 

I have not been sleeping and sitter here coding for almost 40 hours continuely, I believe in I will solve my problem (or maybe already solved). Actually intelligent labour is also hard labour.

 

Read the ISEA code and try to understand the logic.

ISEA is using simple MA period 16 on close price of M5 timeframe. and fire actual market orders with + and - 5 pips from MA line plus litter buffer. If your traded pair is vibrate in this range all day allone, never mind the freeze level for 5 pips, you still will get good results all day long with take profits 5 pips (because your freeze level forced you to only can take profits at 5 pips distance).

 

Just get the SMA period 16 on your M5 and observe the data!

 

Now my problem is solved, and I am going for sleeping. Last two and half days, I have been only sleeping for total 8 hours.

 

Try to adapt the code to your current broker is the way.

searching for the perfect datafeed is not gonna to work.

 

Last week, I spent 4 days to looking for the perfect broker and runing test on many many brokers, not succeed.

then I spent 2 and half day non-sleeping to adapt the code to my current broker, get ok result already on backtest. At the end, the solution is normally pretty simple, because original ISEA code is simple and yet brilliant!

 

 

Finimej, did you edit the previous 2 edited isea? Or just change the parameter on your broker?

[finimej]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

change the parameter is not going to work. the first way.

[Roels Major]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, if you think there is no solution, then there is never gonna have a solution for you.

 

I have not been sleeping and sitter here coding for almost 40 hours continuely, I believe in I will solve my problem (or maybe already solved). Actually intelligent labour is also hard labour.

 

Read the ISEA code and try to understand the logic.

ISEA is using simple MA period 16 on close price of M5 timeframe. and fire actual market orders with + and - 5 pips from MA line plus litter buffer. If your traded pair is vibrate in this range all day allone, never mind the freeze level for 5 pips, you still will get good results all day long with take profits 5 pips (because your freeze level forced you to only can take profits at 5 pips distance).

 

Just get the SMA period 16 on your M5 and observe the data!

 

Now my problem is solved, and I am going for sleeping. Last two and half days, I have been only sleeping for total 8 hours.

 

Try to adapt the code to your current broker is the way.

searching for the perfect datafeed is not gonna to work.

 

Last week, I spent 4 days to looking for the perfect broker and runing test on many many brokers, not succeed.

then I spent 2 and half day non-sleeping to adapt the code to my current broker, get ok result already on backtest. At the end, the solution is normally pretty simple, because original ISEA code is simple and yet brilliant!

 

 

Salute for all efforts......... :shand:

[victor21]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Yes salute for all efforts, but how do you manage to make it work without unfiltered data ?

 

regards

[Forexpro1713006044]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

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THE SOLUTION IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN WE THINK . NEVER COMPLICATE FOREX TRADING AND YOU WILL MAKE MONEY

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Pama,

 

Have you ever made any thoughts about what you are writing ?

 

It’s maybe a good idea about the own brokerage, but it isn’t something solved within a couple of days neither it’s a guarantee that it will work finally.

Why we aren’t adjusting in the meantime the EA to the current brokers and beside this following ideas like own forum brokerage.

We wouldn’t lose time, and the chance that one of the 2 (or more) options will work is much higher.

[cmsindo]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

A better solution is to not waste your time on a junk EA. :mrgreen:

 

To be polite to you i will tell you that in life if you have no solution to a problem you shut up :mrgreen:

 

The fact that we don't have a solution does not mean that someone elsewhere do not have a solution. If you say that it is a junk EA . Imagine what Major Trading houses using the same simple logic called HIGH VOLATILITY HIGH FREQUENCY Model are making . They have the unfiltered data, the spreads, hedging and everything else. That's why they keep on making millions everyday yet you make nothing. Everytime you trade you loose money. Ask yourself why

 

I have been on both sides of the equation. I traded a lot of EAs and i tell when one is complete JUNK or when it has potential

 

 

i agree with your idea, please contact me through my email at no mail please

we must discuss it very seriously

 

ASAP please :peace:

[Forexpro1713006044]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

well, if you think there is no solution, then there is never gonna have a solution for you.

 

I have not been sleeping and sitter here coding for almost 40 hours continuely, I believe in I will solve my problem (or maybe already solved). Actually intelligent labour is also hard labour.

 

Read the ISEA code and try to understand the logic.

ISEA is using simple MA period 16 on close price of M5 timeframe. and fire actual market orders with + and - 5 pips from MA line plus litter buffer. If your traded pair is vibrate in this range all day allone, never mind the freeze level for 5 pips, you still will get good results all day long with take profits 5 pips (because your freeze level forced you to only can take profits at 5 pips distance).

 

Just get the SMA period 16 on your M5 and observe the data!

 

Now my problem is solved, and I am going for sleeping. Last two and half days, I have been only sleeping for total 8 hours.

 

Try to adapt the code to your current broker is the way.

searching for the perfect datafeed is not gonna to work.

 

Last week, I spent 4 days to looking for the perfect broker and runing test on many many brokers, not succeed.

then I spent 2 and half day non-sleeping to adapt the code to my current broker, get ok result already on backtest. At the end, the solution is normally pretty simple, because original ISEA code is simple and yet brilliant!

 

 

Finimej – you are the man :shand: :shand: :shand:

[Abdulisback]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

A better solution is to not waste your time on a junk EA. :mrgreen:

 

I personally think that this whole thing is absolute rubbish,, But with this type of team work, the sky is the limite..... But you guys must organize your ideas and listen.,, if you want this to succeed

[ikondubai]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Anybody can post the EA

[mxadam]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

why doesnt everyone just goto my zen-fire link to understand that you CAN RECIEVE AND TRADE OF A UNFILTERED DATA FEED.

[victor21]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Zen fire provide ninja trader as platform with unfiltered data, this look very promising, but i cannot find information about spread, and other stuff concerning forex ...

 

Do you ?