mak2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS ryujeans, For scalpers you need 99% backtests to confirm. Furthermore, spreads are really important for your backtests. So you need to really consider all those factors. The best is to go live with micro account to see the ability of the EA, but then again if EA performed good in one month (like MDP in august ) it doesnt mean it performs good in september. Caspian is also really broker dependant. The gains are either minimal (of course wth 8 lots not) or break even. The conclusion is scalping EAs are not reliable and the performance depends on many factors. JUINERTY2 is only giving us the combination that works for him. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syk1kz Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Hi, Is anyone have success with dragon on gomarkets? If so do you mind sharing how (pairs , timeframe , etc) thanks yes i am running go markets with quiksilvers latest DP using logics 1+3 only i am running the london session though not the asian session. i am using gmt 7-11 rather than 19-23 or 18-22 whatever you choose. i suggest you demo it rather than jumping in with real $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS The conclusion is scalping EAs are not reliable and the performance depends on many factors. Unfortunately, this is what I am learning. Simply speaking. It is possible to profit more from manually trading. Making 30 pips a day, 20 times a month, will eventually lead you to forex success down the road. Scalpers aren't realible because their profit margins are too thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Haha.. I do agreed on the above points. But, most of the times, we are all working in order to survive. Forex is another "Hope" with the EA help to have (if lucky) extra income. So far, DP still the best for me as it make consistent income. But lose because of do not know how manual trading method. I would like to test out in london time after I come back. Maybe i will setup my DP demo in server before leaving & look at the results when I back. At least even if I "lose" money in demo, it is not heart breaking thing. Wahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qingyang2005 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Anyone who can share the last version : DRAGONPIPS HYPER TRADE ? Thanks in advance. =D> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Haha.. I do agreed on the above points. But, most of the times, we are all working in order to survive. Forex is another "Hope" with the EA help to have (if lucky) extra income. So far, DP still the best for me as it make consistent income. But lose because of do not know how manual trading method. I would like to test out in london time after I come back. Maybe i will setup my DP demo in server before leaving & look at the results when I back. At least even if I "lose" money in demo, it is not heart breaking thing. Wahahaha =D> enjoy & have great holiday chankl78 :-bd if u have spare MT4 platform & the time place this on demo while away & see what the result is -- :P--http://indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I am very interested in that also. Would like to test it also.... Wait till I come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I am very interested in that also. Would like to test it also.... Wait till I come back. will play with some settings while u away ENJOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS hmmmm..... So bad... You are making me dropping saliva.......... Waahahahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvic Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Is anyone have success with dragon on gomarkets? If so do you mind sharing how (pairs , timeframe , etc) thanks yes i am running go markets with quiksilvers latest DP using logics 1+3 only i am running the london session though not the asian session. i am using gmt 7-11 rather than 19-23 or 18-22 whatever you choose. i suggest you demo it rather than jumping in with real $$$ Which pairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syk1kz Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS eurusd only for me i dont really like EA trading on much else not with DP anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olayiwola02 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS thanks for all your contributions,please for the sake of love for humanity and God ,kindly post ,the working and most profitable version of educated dragonpips ea to this forum ,bcos there many non working versions which i have downloaded here but, when they loose one day ,they loose profits gathered in one month, what a waste of time and fund. please JUINERTY2 OR ANY OTHER LOVING PERSON should re-post profitable version(if possible with correct settings) here so as to eliminate confusion.thanks in anticipation for your quick response. happy trading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS :shand: quicksilver DP Ultimate with chankl78 set files & juinerty2 pairs enjoy DP Ultimate 10-15 pages back :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS :-bd here u go--http://www.mediafire.com/?wme0zznn2mo--post for pages 70 on u will find every thing u need set files :P DP Ultimate with range_previous bar & 4strategy settings is the latest version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I think why lose so much is because it is FOMC news. That's the only times when DP loses so much. So beware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS hxxp://www.forexfactory.com/calendar.php For those who are trading EG from 18hrs to 22hrs GMT, please be real careful. There is a high impact news. Beware or do not trade the GBP pairs tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUINERTY2 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS thanks Chankl78 I will disable gbp pairs tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUINERTY2 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS >>Olayiwola02 I use DP original , page 3 of this tread I think. I have wash unused code that you can find inside quicksilver DP Ultimate (he adds many usefull features). I think the best params for this version is from chankl78. Use major pairs, start with 19-22gmt first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS =D> today trading hours London session 7-11 closed at 10:45 get the money & run live axisodl account \m/ AxisForex Group Holdings Pty Ltd Account: xxxxx Name: Axisforex - xxxxxxx Currency: AUD 2009 October 26, 10:42 Closed Transactions: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Close Time Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit 10278610 2009.10.26 07:01 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00610 1.00360 1.00744 2009.10.26 07:15 1.00635 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.69 10278578 2009.10.26 07:00 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50425 1.50675 1.50237 2009.10.26 07:02 1.50400 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.70 10279379 2009.10.26 07:41 sell 0.10 usdchf 1.00742 1.01070 1.00517 2009.10.26 07:50 1.00716 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.80 10281895 2009.10.26 10:32 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00605 1.00355 1.00792 2009.10.26 10:36 1.00632 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.90 10279211 2009.10.26 07:33 buy 0.10 eurusd 1.50245 1.49995 1.50465 2009.10.26 07:49 1.50273 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.03 10281511 2009.10.26 09:54 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00635 1.00315 1.00792 2009.10.26 10:18 1.00666 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.32 10280951 2009.10.26 09:05 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50421 1.50716 1.50145 2009.10.26 09:06 1.50388 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.57 10281893 2009.10.26 10:32 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50381 1.50671 1.50270 2009.10.26 10:36 1.50347 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.67 10281842 2009.10.26 10:26 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00615 1.00295 1.00792 2009.10.26 10:36 1.00652 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.97 10281576 2009.10.26 10:00 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00614 1.00361 1.00792 2009.10.26 10:18 1.00662 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.15 10279681 2009.10.26 08:01 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00637 1.00386 1.00770 2009.10.26 08:10 1.00691 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.79 10278882 2009.10.26 07:16 sell 0.20 gbpusd 1.63111 1.63351 0.00000 2009.10.26 07:17 1.63049 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.42 0.00 0.00 0.00 53.01 Closed P/L: 53.01 Open Trades: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit No transactions 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Floating P/L: 0.00 Working Orders: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Market Price No transactions Summary: Deposit/Withdrawal: 0.00 Credit Facility: 0.00 Closed Trade P/L: 53.01 Floating P/L: 0.00 Margin: 0.00 Balance: 1 482.93 Equity: 1 584.93 Free Margin: 1 584.93 Details: Graph Gross Profit: 53.01 Gross Loss: 0.00 Total Net Profit: 53.01 Profit Factor: Expected Payoff: 4.42 Absolute Drawdown: 0.00 Maximal Drawdown: 0.00 (0.00%) Relative Drawdown: 0.00% (0.00) Total Trades: 12 Short Positions (won %): 5 (100.00%) Long Positions (won %): 7 (100.00%) Profit Trades (% of total): 12 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of total): 0 (0.00%) Largest profit trade: 13.42 loss trade: 0.00 Average profit trade: 4.42 loss trade: 0.00 Maximum consecutive wins ($): 12 (53.01) consecutive losses ($): 0 (0.00) Maximal consecutive profit (count): 53.01 (12) consecutive loss (count): 0.00 (0) Average consecutive wins: 12 consecutive losses: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS =D> many thanks chankl78 I forgot to look at calender today I am testing new EA for U while U on holiday if it works like backtest we not have to WORRY ABOUT FF CALENDER =D> demo statement 7-11 (1 extra trade)AxisForex Group Holdings Pty Ltd Account: 88xxxx Name: saendee Currency: AUD 2009 October 26, 11:00 Closed Transactions: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Close Time Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit 33395113 2009.10.25 23:12 balance Deposit 10 000.00 33405209 2009.10.26 07:00 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50425 1.50675 1.50237 2009.10.26 07:02 1.50394 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.35 33405288 2009.10.26 07:01 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00610 1.00360 1.00743 2009.10.26 07:15 1.00635 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.68 33406281 2009.10.26 07:16 sell 0.20 gbpusd 1.63110 1.63350 0.00000 2009.10.26 07:17 1.63046 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.85 33407527 2009.10.26 07:33 buy 0.10 eurusd 1.50245 1.49995 1.50465 2009.10.26 07:49 1.50273 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.03 33408096 2009.10.26 07:41 sell 0.10 usdchf 1.00741 1.01069 1.00516 2009.10.26 07:50 1.00707 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.65 33409615 2009.10.26 08:01 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00636 1.00376 1.00769 2009.10.26 08:10 1.00690 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.80 33413246 2009.10.26 09:05 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50417 1.50716 1.50145 2009.10.26 09:06 1.50394 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.49 33415781 2009.10.26 09:54 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00634 1.00314 1.00791 2009.10.26 10:18 1.00665 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.33 33416157 2009.10.26 10:00 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00613 1.00356 1.00791 2009.10.26 10:18 1.00663 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.36 33417689 2009.10.26 10:26 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00614 1.00294 1.00791 2009.10.26 10:36 1.00640 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.79 33417991 2009.10.26 10:32 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.50381 1.50671 1.50270 2009.10.26 10:36 1.50347 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.68 33417995 2009.10.26 10:32 buy 0.10 usdchf 1.00604 1.00354 1.00791 2009.10.26 10:36 1.00640 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.87 33418668 2009.10.26 10:46 buy 0.10 eurusd 1.50314 1.49989 1.50421 2009.10.26 10:49 1.50337 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.48 0.00 0.00 0.00 56.36 Closed P/L: 56.36 Open Trades: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit No transactions 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Floating P/L: 0.00 Working Orders: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Market Price No transactions Summary: Deposit/Withdrawal: 10 000.00 Credit Facility: 0.00 Closed Trade P/L: 56.36 Floating P/L: 0.00 Margin: 0.00 Balance: 10 056.36 Equity: 10 056.36 Free Margin: 10 056.36 Details: Graph Gross Profit: 56.36 Gross Loss: 0.00 Total Net Profit: 56.36 Profit Factor: Expected Payoff: 4.34 Absolute Drawdown: 0.00 Maximal Drawdown: 0.00 (0.00%) Relative Drawdown: 0.00% (0.00) Total Trades: 13 Short Positions (won %): 5 (100.00%) Long Positions (won %): 8 (100.00%) Profit Trades (% of total): 13 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of total): 0 (0.00%) Largest profit trade: 13.85 loss trade: 0.00 Average profit trade: 4.34 loss trade: 0.00 Maximum consecutive wins ($): 13 (56.36) consecutive losses ($): 0 (0.00) Maximal consecutive profit (count): 56.36 (13) consecutive loss (count): 0.00 (0) Average consecutive wins: 13 consecutive losses: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Seems that 7 to 11 is really a good time to trades..... Maybe I should have start to trade at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUINERTY2 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS >>Sandee My tests on london hours didn't give any satisfacting results In order to do more tests, could yo utell me which version you use, with params ? Thank you What is the new Ea you are testing ? I currently testing Donchain scalper (eurusd 5), pips miner (I try some optimisation to reduce DD), Fratal4 on eurgbp. Results soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvic Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS It seems not right to scalp that period when quite often their is a breakout. Lots of people try to trade a breakout on that pair. Anyway I guess if its working. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS >>Sandee My tests on london hours didn't give any satisfacting results In order to do more tests, could yo utell me which version you use, with params ? Thank you What is the new Ea you are testing ? I currently testing Donchain scalper (eurusd 5), pips miner (I try some optimisation to reduce DD), Fratal4 on eurgbp. Results soon.... ^:)^ quicksilver Ultimate modified date (30/09/09)SETTINGS --MM=false * fixed lot=0.1 * pips to close #1=3 #2=2 #3=1 #4= -6 #5= -10 All other settings default ECN= yes/no **other EA I an testing I gave U kudo for *pips miner* trailing stop at limited backtesting looked a great addition to as it was not just the last seven trades of the volatile 2 weeks & as u say huge DD but many times some off the trades go into profit before losing :shand: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS It seems not right to scalp that period when quite often their is a breakout. Lots of people try to trade a breakout on that pair. Anyway I guess if its working. Good luck :shand: firstly I traded 3 pairs & secondly why do u think I stopped trading before 7-11 ending because of breakout 3ly if u have a good look at the 3 charts u will also see that there were no big movements as I am AUSTRALIAN we say (I will go for the flow until it start losing or if it looks like its trending too much the settings will not allow DP Ultimate to trade MANY THANKS to quicksilver FINE TUNING of this EA --enjoy & have a nice day :shand: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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