⭐ pygmalion Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hello, my fellow forum members, here is my little story. I, like probably many others here, have found this forum because i was looking for a specific EA which i wanted to test. When i came here i was truly amazed about all the stuff which can be found here. Indicators, E-books, Expert Advisors.... well you name it. For someone who is new to this game, this must be like the keys to the Garden of Eden. Like a fantasy candystore, you just go and grab what looks good, and all for free. Just ask. Everything is promising to make you rich and fulfill your dreams. You have read all the marketing fluff on the sellers web site .... "it's so easy... you go to sleep and our system (which of course was a secret until now) will make you all the money.... what is it you desire my master - a new car, a new house or maybe even all the love in the world? - for only $XXX you will have your dreams all come true" hundreds of users can confirm this ... even with video .... Joe Average, who looks like the ugly dumb guy who might be shagging your sister even confirms it: "I do not even have a computer .... i cant tell left from right .... but its great .. and here i am with all this money in my dumb hands" Now since you came here to this fantasic wonderland you dont even have to pay $$XXX to the developer... just come here, download and enjoy and its all yours for free. It cannot get better then this. This is a dream come true. Ok, this is a bit of a provoking story. I hope to wake you up from your dream. There are so many people coming here who want to give a little and get a lot in return. In fact, they want to give nothing but hope to receive everything. I have noticed there are a couple of people here who are serious, and which have realized that nothing in life comes easy, and i truly appreciate that. I hope i did not hurt your feelings. Everybody else i wish good luck. Getting tired, enough for now. PS If you think i am writing this to protect software developers / ebook sellers etc etc you are wrong. More about that later. agni123 and dk1aussie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanDare Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this Nice read Pygmallion. Good start to your story. Not quite sure where you are heading with this, but I can hazzard a guess. Excuse me for not engaging too much in your story. I was also surprised and amazed by all the 'stuff' floating around on here. But amongst all the crap EA's and the junk that exists in cyberspace, are there really any EA's that actually work? And when I say work, I mean make a decent profit in the long run? Maybe THAT'S what we should be asking or working towards, instead of grabbing and trying to fill our pockets (hard drives) with junk that doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se-Tro Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this Forex is just a busines man.... You must learn and learn all the times. You can not be rich for a while.... So many things you must know....thechnichal...fundamental....MM...phychologie...patient...ect..ect... Do not never give up man..... Keep learning...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Kardel Sharpeye Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this wah ini perasaan nya JOE pasti tersinggung .... epaluasi sistem itu memang lebih baik ... daripada mikirin EA yang gak jelas juntrungana.... terkadang memang .... BEJO itu ada. tiap ada SUKUR . kalogak ada itu ... aja ilang ya ... APES hasilnya. Oya ... saya suka yang bagian "$XXX" wah ini... "$" enak, "XXX" nya apalagi. BTW ON THEWAY BUS WAY .... hub annya david, goliath sama che guavaara apa ya .... ??? Quote [spoiler=stttttt... hey You .. YES you ... let tell me you A SECRET ... click here ... yeah ... click on this button ] II Vocabulary that you should know: PLON=it mean someting that really bad ... REEEELY BAD like a BLOOD sucker stuff ... CEMPLON= the PRODUCER OF SOMETHING THAT CLAIM GOOD but IT IS NOT ... and WASTED all YOUR MONEY! ---- make sure Oxford or Cambridge knows it ...--- K =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_danoe Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this BTW ON THEWAY BUS WAY .... hub annya david, goliath sama che guavaara apa ya .... ??? Maksudnya kita sebagai Retail Forex Trader dengan Broker Mas kardel :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davjeon Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this I'm trying to pick up at least one thing everyday !! :-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCan Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this wait a minute i have to applause for this thread [center:dctbn61f]=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>[/center:dctbn61f] hmmm i`m very like this part, When i came here i was truly amazed about all the stuff which can be found here. Indicators, E-books, Expert Advisors.... well you name it. For someone who is new to this game, this must be like the keys to the Garden of Eden. Like a fantasy candystore, you just go and grab what looks good, and all for free. Just ask. but like you said For someone who is new to this game yes is true, but after you try all EA, robots, that with a billion dollar price is never enough, maybe there is no one number one EA right now and after you has loosing a lot of your money at this game, you will be back to the basic technical analysis and fundamental analysis, but well i hope i`m wrong :)>- , and i hope you all found a great trading system for your self, simple but deadly i think that is better than you must buy a hundreds dollar EA ;)) pardon if you all can not understand my English :-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian1974 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this I do agree with bro dvd.. First time joined this forum I felt so amazed and wanna grab everything I could. Guess what? Newbie is still newbie. Downloading many systems without evaluating our trading edge is still a looser to go. I myself have blown 70% of my mini FXCM account last year in only 4 months. Yet I have downloaded huge amount of materials from this forum. Downloading and Collecting or even reading many books/articles are something that still far away from being succeed. Knowing your trading edge and learning from your failures is more promising. Listen to everybody's opinion (whether right or wrong) is a good habit. By listen and practise what you got, I believe someone will make improvements. Regards! :shand: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1713006271 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this When i came here i was truly amazed about all the stuff which can be found here. Indicators, E-books, Expert Advisors.... well you name it. For someone who is new to this game, this must be like the keys to the Garden of Eden. Like a fantasy candystore, you just go and grab what looks good, and all for free. Just ask. After reading it again. I come to realize something. Some people will agree with me that it's useless to search for the next holy grail, coz it doesn't even exist. Most people will agree with the statement, but only some will completely agree in terms that "no action taken". I do not believe in the new holy grail, thus I doesn't even downloaded a single EA since ... perhaps Oct 2008? I think this "heaven" of candy store is helping us in achieving the understanding much much much faster. If you are woking alone, you will get hundreds of spam emails about the next holy grail, you save money, buy the EA, tested it, got disappointed, and save money again to buy the next holy grail. By working alone, we are wasting our time and money. But, here, you could download 1 hundred EA in one day, test 10 of them in 2 days, and get sick of it by the end of the month. And come to conclusion that there is no holy grail and start searching inward instead of ourward. :P Regards, Quote Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai. Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentos Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this But, here, you could download 1 hundred EA in one day, test 10 of them in 2 days, and get sick of it by the end of the month. And come to conclusion that there is no holy grail and start searching inward instead of ourward. :P Regards, I believe that is the true holy grail. Realizing that it's not as easy as it seems. Get a plan of action, work out an MM that's working, and get your psyched in the right direction. Quote Just another pippin master :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_konna Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this IMO: the real Holy Grail is not out there, but inside of ourself. I mean lets we take one of the Trading System (e.q. Manual System like one of this Forum), stick with them at least a one or two periode, use a proper money mangement so we can make it in Forex Market. thats My Oppinion. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ pygmalion Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this This is funny.... i wanted to continue this thread over several posts but then forgot about it .... but i guess you guys got the point quickly and figured it all out. Verrrrrry niiiiiice ..... as Borat would say! =D> A big part of this industry is about taking away the money from the beginners. Trading, many years ago, was for those with big pockets. Some people have realized that they can make the same money if they get 100 guys with $500 accounts on board instead of one guy with $50.000. Maybe a bit more work but much easier in the long run .... so now instead of asking $10000 for trading education from one guy and really sitting down and spending days explaining him some crappy system (at the risk he might be showing up with his lawyer the next day) why not sell everybody .... let´s say a book for $30 ... a robot for $50 .... an indicator for $100 .... and the list goes on. And it´s easier to gather 100 guys with $500 instead of one big guy with 50.000 .... who will start asking all sorts of questions and might even be a smart dude and business guy .... This industry works the same as all the other ones .... something the rich use today is being sold in modified form to the masses some years later. Think about travel by plane. Think about mobile phones. Think about desktop computers. Did your parents have it? Most likely not. Do you and your neighbors dog have it? I bet you do. Forex is the new "trading for the little guy". We have dozens of Forex brokers with very little minimum account size for the same reason they have 10 cents poker in Las Vegas. The Brokers knows very well that statistically over 90% of the people opening such an account will blow out after some time. I bet they dont even hedge most of the trades of these people. Same with those poker machines... they know most of the money will never be paid out because its only beginners playing them. Now think about the following products for a second ... ..... Harly Davidson ..... Marlboro ..... Coca Cola What do you think is it they are really selling? Think for a second before you answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odrisb Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this I'm still learning the forex trade so this forum is a great place to see what experiences others are having... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalone Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this I'm hoping to make a living from FX trading. Big dreams, maybe? Who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civfan Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this Hello, my fellow forum members, here is my little story. I, like probably many others here, have found this forum because i was looking for a specific EA which i wanted to test. When i came here i was truly amazed about all the stuff which can be found here. Indicators, E-books, Expert Advisors.... well you name it. For someone who is new to this game, this must be like the keys to the Garden of Eden. Like a fantasy candystore, you just go and grab what looks good, and all for free. Just ask. Everything is promising to make you rich and fulfill your dreams. You have read all the marketing fluff on the sellers web site .... "it's so easy... you go to sleep and our system (which of course was a secret until now) will make you all the money.... what is it you desire my master - a new car, a new house or maybe even all the love in the world? - for only $XXX you will have your dreams all come true" hundreds of users can confirm this ... even with video .... Joe Average, who looks like the ugly dumb guy who might be shagging your sister even confirms it: "I do not even have a computer .... i cant tell left from right .... but its great .. and here i am with all this money in my dumb hands" Now since you came here to this fantasic wonderland you dont even have to pay $$XXX to the developer... just come here, download and enjoy and its all yours for free. It cannot get better then this. This is a dream come true. Ok, this is a bit of a provoking story. I hope to wake you up from your dream. There are so many people coming here who want to give a little and get a lot in return. In fact, they want to give nothing but hope to receive everything. I have noticed there are a couple of people here who are serious, and which have realized that nothing in life comes easy, and i truly appreciate that. I hope i did not hurt your feelings. Everybody else i wish good luck. Getting tired, enough for now. PS If you think i am writing this to protect software developers / ebook sellers etc etc you are wrong. More about that later. Very well written, and fun, but so true! But would be hope, or just forex is not for "almost" anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankay Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this The best approach as far as my knowledge can carry me is to dowload a good system and study and master it. Demo trade it for at least 3 months and then go live But there must be total descipline and adherence to your plan as detailed in your system.pls stop jumpiind from one system to another. There are many sucessful traders and using various systems. Just find one good for you and stick to it. A rolling stone gathers no moist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny3 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this teah your right MtCoderz don't rely on eas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepescumi Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this there's nothing wrong with dreaming, many huge things start from dreaming. Dreaming without hard work, that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0o69 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Re: You may hate me for telling you this thank you indo-investasi... now i become a better trader... Edited August 7, 2010 by dr0o69 Quote To know and not to do is not yet to know - Zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkp9999 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this Well, I have to agree with this story but I still fall into this trap. OK, let's start with the first thing, having a large pot of gold (EAs, Indicators, Systems). But, take a step further, what good is GOLD, if you cannot find water to drink. Gold will not make you survive. In the same manner, all these various things (EAs, Indicators, Systems) being equivalent to GOLD, unless you dig your own well (i.e. pick a system and thoroughly test it and make it your own). This is your water. The problem is, is the water sweet water or sea water (i.e. Which system is good for you, does it match your psychology). Ah, I am really digressing. Just pick a method and follow it as there are no Holy grails. All systems will lose but by how much (i.e. MM), to help you control your account. More later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchocolateyogo Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this Hey people, I have some basic advice, for anyone who is relatively new to forex. Make sure that you forward test any EA that you plan on taking live. Be sure to test it on a DEMO account first. This is a common mistake many new traders make! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avibe Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this one has to treat Forex like a Business...just like you would a coffee shop....be serious with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornet Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this accept losses as part of doing business. like the cost of buying coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnraintree Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this So, was this an example of "giving something" to the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ pygmalion Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Re: You may hate me for telling you this 2 things: Forex is the new "trading for the little guy". We have dozens of Forex brokers with very little minimum account size for the same reason they have 10 cents poker in Las Vegas. The Brokers knows very well that statistically over 90% of the people opening such an account will blow out after some time. I bet they dont even hedge most of the trades of these people. Same with those poker machines... they know most of the money will never be paid out because its only beginners playing them. I have proof in the meantime that above assumption is actually true. I will give out more details later. Now all you lazy buggers out there.... lol.... - i gave you some homework and i don´t see any effot so far... Now think about the following products for a second ... ..... Harly Davidson ..... Marlboro ..... Coca Cola What do you think is it they are really selling? Think for a second before you answer. What´s the answer to this one? I´ll loosen the rules a bit .... you don´t have to think about it for a second - just answer straight away .... lol PS: Some interesting comments here, but seems most guys totally miss the point. agni123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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