Grain Trader

More of those mirrors still work, not only one. But the truth is some are really dead, unfortunately the multi-uploaders I am using don't check the hosters for subsequently broken links. I wonder who is behind those deletions.

Here is a new bunch of mirrors then, it should last for a little while.

 

ocean_theory.rar (ocean indis by mladen from TSD elite)

 

http://www.directmirror.com/files/ROH0Q0HT

http://mir.cr/0PMDJDCO

http://www.multiupload.nl/SDH97068W1

 

 

ocn_mt4_9-28-2012.7z (ocean indis by me)

 

http://www.directmirror.com/files/RAQPU9UU

http://mir.cr/1OZX59WL

http://www.multiupload.nl/SDH97068W1

hi UDC

Nice to see that you are back. I have a question, is it possible to import the Ocean Plus indicators into the Multi Chart platform, I believe they are the BTX and the STX. multi chart and Tradestation are written in the same language

Hi guys, I have TS 8.2 and Owndata 2.7. I am trying to get it to work with Interactive Brokers, without much luck. I do not have any sort of manual or guidance on how to set them up to work together. Tips?

hi staspmr, did you have any luck connecting TS to IB website and can you share your copy of owndata 2.7, is it virus free, thanks

hi Metal

I am not sure I understand your question quite well, but the windows xp operating system comes with its own pre installed drivers, its part of the operating system. In the 2nd part of your question you are asking about the ability to have display interface, I am assuming you mean the ability to to operate the various connections to the computer, like the printer, scanner, monitor etc.., for those you would need to download those drivers from the website of either the manufacturer or from microsoft website, usually after installing xp, you will need to scan your computer for the latest updates by logging into microsoft website

hi UDC

Just wondering if you have the Jurik manual that explains how to plot the different settings for his indicators, not the basic jurik manual that gives an overview of the indicators, just wondering if there was an additional manual with suggested settings

josephr

I believe that the Ocean software was written for windows XP and Tradestation 8 and that is the reason you are not able to load it on W7, my advise since computers are so cheap, is you should get a 2nd computer, XP since most of the older programs were written for XP, Ocean software is a $8000 software so it would be worth to invest in getting a 2nd computer

what's the latest version no.?

version 4.7 build 397

here it is guys enjoy

hxxp://***[email protected]/filegroup/vjGnFSW0kh77WMyF7lm40A

hxxp://***[email protected]/filegroup/2L2fsllLT%2B7c6YNGfAvceg

it will only be available for 24 hours

Does anyone have WINXGO or FOG add on for wave59

thanks

This person is selling it

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/17788-w-ve59-pro2-for-buy-or-exchange

hi stearno

Thanks very much, actually you are ahead of me, i am using TS in the offline mode, I never installed owndata because my esetnod virus program detected a trojan, this is the reason I wanted to know if you had found any virus. So I am not able to help you with your question, since I have not installed owndata yet, what link for own data did you use

I liked what you said, so I had a thought. Maybe it was the installation folder in 64 bit environment. So i uninstalled and reinstalled everything. Then when installed TS 8.7 again, I named the folder Tradestation (instead of its default). Then ran install for OwnData and it worked this time. Thanks!

hi stearno, Congratulations on a successful instal, can you verify if the owndata 2.7 is virus free or did you get your owndata from a different source and not the one listed in this thread

It worked fine in WinXP, but it does not work in Win7 32 bit, atleast at my frnds end...

hi FFRT

Is the software working well in XP now? there were some known issues where the charts would not load a message regarding the symbol needs to be in the data manager

hi awsi

Yes I have studied these indicators for more than3 years and I have also implemented them in my own personal trading, they require a lot of time to learn and understand their concepts, check the video links posted by Sixer in this thread, you will get a good perception about their use

I would appreciate if anyone can upload these links

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/trader-documentary-paul-tudor-jones-must-see

Exactly as you say, when there is a big move TEMA can accumulate so much speed that it manages to change direction not until way beyond the crossroad.

 

In Ocean indis TEMA is used in 2 cases:

• a variable SC (smoothing constant) - this is in many Ocean indis and it means pre-smoothing of the price before it's used in the actual math; this variable is by default 1 which means disabled and also in the manual it's not recommended to use it as it would bring arbitrariness; thus in Metatrader versions I didn't even implement it
  
• a variable SmLen - this is used in bounded tools NDX, NST and NXC and here it is not just an optional feature but the integral part of the indi, default is 20 for NDX and 10 for NST
  

 

So now we can safely assume that whenever NDX/NST/NXC gathers a big move it will probably overshoots. That may be a serious issue since these tools are supposed to mark overbought/oversold area and because of TEMA they may appear in OB/OS even when they in fact shouldn't be there (yet). Therefore now I am trying to replace TEMA with JMA in these and I expect it would give a more accurate picture.

 

In comparison with many other low lag MAs the TEMA is quite good because the others overshoot too, so I guess that's why Jim and Pat chose TEMA. However JMA is a different league.

 

 

So far I looked into the code of JMA and RSX and, well, Jurik and Ocean are like each from different world. I wouldn't say one is superior to another. In Jurik the code at the first sight exhibits a signal processing techniques, Mark Jurik definitely knows his stuff very well. If he just would have brought his website into 21st century and made his tools officially available for Metatrader he would be much more famous. But the same is true for Ocean as well. Jim Sloman knows his stuff very well too, but his area is different from Jurik, when he looks at the market he doesn't see a data that should be processed, denoised and smoothed. He has a gift of looking at things from wholly different perspective. Well, as you said, if these two guys united together that would be something.

hi UDC

You are absolutely right in your comparison between Sloman and Jurik, they have completely different styles, Sloman is more of a esoteric minded person, a gifted person , dreamer and it appears he has mastered the art if mental visualization. He was the person that sold the Delta Phenomenon to Wells Wilder for one million dollars. He is very articulate and intelligent person, after the Delta Phenomenon, he developed the Ocean Software series utilizing the program skills of Pat his partner. Jurik on the other hand is a pure mathematical scientist, he thinks and breathes numbers, his approach is more practical, scientific and they were proven mathematically and scientifically to be accurate. This was the reason he was hired by the US government during the cold war, so he is an old veteran from the past and maybe the reason his website does not have all those bells and whistles.

But you cannot underestimate the accuracy of his indicators, they are used by professional traders and money managers and they are just your typical no nonsense hardcore type indicators. That is thet reason when you did your detailed comparison in post #135, the Jurik indicators were proven to be more superior than the Ocean indicators.

The jurik RSX in your first example was more sensitive to the market, more smoother and in the divergence example you illustrated, the RSX successfully detected weakness as prices were rising, therefore it gave an early warning signal to go short as prices were rising.

NDX with TEMA in your 2nd example gave a false signal as the indicator continued to rise with prices.

NDX with Jurik and TEMA in your 3rd example was flat

While NDA Jueik without TEMA in your 4th example gave a good signal to go short

NDX with JMA 7 in your final example was excellent as it clearly shows the divergence and alerted you to go short early

which version, is this, I've some old working version, but wanted the lates, stable workable version...thanks

hi FFRT, This is version 4,it is stable and in perfection working condition, I am not familiar with any newer version