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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from MrAdmin in II VIP Membership - FREE upgrade for OLD and ACTIVE Members   
    I'm in - let's go!
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to lbf4223 in Holygrail Algo -COMPLETE   
    There's no "AI" in these strategies. All they do is use some breakout condition. There's no intelligence about it whatsoever. These vendors have spent zero time coming up with a way for their decision-making to adjust to changing volatility conditions. It's a difficult problem to solve. They lack the critical thinking skills combined with years of real-time discretionary trading experience to have the background to even approach a solution.
     
    Put it this way. A REAL automated system which adjusts well to changing price action would be profitable EVERY DAY on volatile instruments like the e-minis.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to dmn99 in KISS Order Flow is an order flow indicator built for Ninja Trader 8 - download   
    It turns an ordinary candlestick chart into an extraordinary order flow chart. We've taken what can be a very complicated way of trading and made it simpler
    There are many ways order flow data can be presented. Some methods require extensive training and can be difficult to learn. We believe we've struck the ideal balance in our indicator. It shows enough, but not too much that makes your chart look busy or confusing. By design, our order flow bars have no numbers. At a glance, you can quickly see where the bulk of the volume is and whether the buyers or sellers are in control of the move.
     
    https://www.kissorderflow.com/
     
     
    Enjoy guys:
     
    link to download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FgH29uTwAz3M5Ao86IirMWojDfvjVmVy/view?pli=1
     
     
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to dmn99 in Zero to funded tutorial - download   
    Sales page: https://www.profitxtrading.com/zero-to-funded
     
    The program will include:

    All 60 Zero To Funded videos with over 40 hours of in-depth step-by-step training ($7500 value)
    The videos will include:
    Core Trading Principles
    Pro Analysis (Technical and Fundamental)
    Pro Psychology (Training on random outcome and probability)
    Pro Risk Management (Dynamic risk based on equity and grades)
    Building/Expanding a Pro Playbook (with data)
    Pro Performance (Training in executing your Playbook)
    Proven Trading System and Edge to personalize
    Pro Trading Habits
    Pro Film Review (How to record and review film)
    Refining a System's win rate and R:R
    Beating the Psychology of the Prop-Firm Challenge
    Walkthrough of how to approach all 3 phases of the prop-firm challenge (Phase 1, 2, and Profit-Split)

    [*]BONUS: My 8 heavy hitter trade setups that I depend upon week to week. Starting with 2 of them will be enough to get funded. ($5,000 value)
    [*]BONUS: Walkthrough and analysis of all 13 of my challenge and verification trades for one of my $100k funded accounts. Includes wins and losses. ($1,500 value)
    [*]BONUS: Tutorial of all the tools I use. Trade Copier, Trading View, Magic Keys, MT4, myfxbook, and more. ($500 value)
    [*]BONUS: Private Discord community* to ask questions about the course and connect with other traders ($500 value)
    [*]BONUS: Periodic Premium Webinars ($500 value)


    Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IlPBvVxA0Y-o4O8YskqtzUBxi3dokSr8/view?usp=share_link
     
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from Fral in (REQ) ** The SymmetryIndicators'JayCluster' Indicator **   
    This should be the educated version of the DLL. After you've downloaded the existing full install in the earlier part of the thread, exit NT7, and place this file overtop of the existing one. Since this is the 32bit version, delete JayClusterV5a.dll and create a copy of JayClusterV5a.x86.dll, renaming it JayClusterV5a.dll.
     
    http://[email protected]/?m8uel0a11q08wqp
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to ⭐ apmoo in ninjacoding.net   
    https://www95.zippyshare.com/v/xYH4z63S/file.html
    Thanks for hitting the like button
    Enjoy
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from nnn123 in SmartBook good analog of BookMap   
    Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ru854
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from speedyt in SmartBook good analog of BookMap   
    Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ru854
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from ⭐ fxwin in SmartBook good analog of BookMap   
    Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ru854
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from Traderbeauty in SmartBook good analog of BookMap   
    Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ru854
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from adonis in SmartBook good analog of BookMap   
    Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:
    https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ru854
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to ⭐ laser1000it in price action indicators needs edu   
    *****************
     
    ….copy and paste the edu dll in the right directory (PC/Document/Ninjatrader7/Bin/Custom) ……(no tested)
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to nicklam66 in Axia Futures - The Footprint Edge Course (good til Sept 14)   
    Finally , here is the course ( https://axiafutures.com/course/the-footprint-edge-course/)
     
     
    Links will be down Sept 14 11pm EST.
     
     
    https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=kZn4hB7ZjthM4RfFf4h5LGXloGxRlYLWg8by#folder=1889683157&p=1
     
    please remember to press thanks.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to xenonhd in NEW RIGHTLINE TRADING INDICATOR Rl Quant cash   
    Dont waste your time with rightline this guy a scammer , Ive been using all his RL indicator suites for a year and I even built systems with his indicators
     
    Nothing reliable and nothing tradable when performing backtesting
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    ⭐ osijek1289 reacted to valoun in (req) Axia Futures courses   
    Hi guys,
     
    I reduced the size, I hope you can still read it. Just module 1 for now.
     

    https://mega.nz/#F!xq4TxZzb!TO7Hx-_tVYnNR3sAnjYkBA https://mega.nz/#F!87wnnZ5A!s6b44PxyZ_ywKQUqu2OL5A
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from exp48967 in Bookmap for NT   
    BTW, you can get a lot of the bookmap-like funcionality, basically for free in Sierra Charts. If you have a real trading account, a 2nd login ID is usually +$10/month, so you can run NT and SC together. http://www.tradergav.com/sierra-chart-book-sharing-market-depth-historical-graph/
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from ⭐ aytacasan in Ace*trades [dot] com   
    Their whole site is full of fluff, absolutely zero specifics on what is so magical about their 'Ace' system. In brief, everything they offer is a crock of sh!te IMHO. And then, you can confirm this by their request of a 'course' that they 'say' is worth $4795 for $2995, or the lesser cousin for a super-duper discount of $1895. And, no sign of what you get - videos, PDFs, no track records of success --- this is deceptive marketing towards the naive. And then to add insult to those who know what they are reading on their pages, they actually have a paypal link to take your $2995? I mean seriously, who is stoopid enough to do this?
     
    I don't get why people (by that I mean aspiring, struggling traders) keep looking for someone who can invent fire, when it's already been done: there are dozens of decent course videos found on indo already, there are many hundreds of decent books on how to trade market profile or some other theoretical but once learned successful method. And the graphics and fancy wording of a web page can't make up for the lack of facts on what they offer.
     
    And, if you're getting emails from them, that means they've purchased bucket/campaign lists of email addresses, to whom they hope to peddle and suck in buyers to their 'services.' Does that sound like something a reputable, successful, self-standing business would do?
     
    I'm surprised they don't offer ginsu knives with this course - check their wording under the 'diamond' package - "Yes only $1800 and you are upgraded to unlimited Ace signals and ongoing training."
     
    Assuming they collect 3-5 of these guppy buyers per year, that's an incredible income boost to this central rural Ontario operation. But the bottom line is, if you've got even only $5K trading capital and - as the self-touting market expert/trader you make yourself out to be on your web page - and you can't trade that up into an amount many times more than that over the span of a few months, then he shouldn't be offering courses in this, or can't trade with any record of success. I assure you real traders are not wasting their time peddling this type of monkey cr@p, but are instead applying their knowledge to multiplying their money many times over. Period.
     
    If you're looking for trading rooms, start by eliminating anyone who does not have a verifiable track record. That also usually will mean eliminating anyone who is not a current member - with a paid seat at the CME group. Why? They have a history, they have a location, they have a track record - they're don't own/rent the seat and space to lose $$$ or suck in newbies. I am not selling anything, but when I checked out a few trading rooms that met this criteria, eminiexchange and Anthony was uber professional: called out trades in a formal way, documented, and explained what was going on. Plus he's been at it for 25 years, and didn't just set up shop out of Wasaga Beach Towne TV shop. Heck the daily free content on Anthony's site is worth more than most of the cr@p people charge for. One other extremely respectable operation that comes to mind is Mr Top Step, although I don't know to what extent they do trade calls from their room.
     
    Remember, don't try to go ferret out guys who are telling you they have invented fire - they are the snake oil salesmen; you want to find and stick to the guys who have refined and modernized fire, and are using it to produce wonderful things for them, and by extension for you.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from mikemast77 in Ace*trades [dot] com   
    Their whole site is full of fluff, absolutely zero specifics on what is so magical about their 'Ace' system. In brief, everything they offer is a crock of sh!te IMHO. And then, you can confirm this by their request of a 'course' that they 'say' is worth $4795 for $2995, or the lesser cousin for a super-duper discount of $1895. And, no sign of what you get - videos, PDFs, no track records of success --- this is deceptive marketing towards the naive. And then to add insult to those who know what they are reading on their pages, they actually have a paypal link to take your $2995? I mean seriously, who is stoopid enough to do this?
     
    I don't get why people (by that I mean aspiring, struggling traders) keep looking for someone who can invent fire, when it's already been done: there are dozens of decent course videos found on indo already, there are many hundreds of decent books on how to trade market profile or some other theoretical but once learned successful method. And the graphics and fancy wording of a web page can't make up for the lack of facts on what they offer.
     
    And, if you're getting emails from them, that means they've purchased bucket/campaign lists of email addresses, to whom they hope to peddle and suck in buyers to their 'services.' Does that sound like something a reputable, successful, self-standing business would do?
     
    I'm surprised they don't offer ginsu knives with this course - check their wording under the 'diamond' package - "Yes only $1800 and you are upgraded to unlimited Ace signals and ongoing training."
     
    Assuming they collect 3-5 of these guppy buyers per year, that's an incredible income boost to this central rural Ontario operation. But the bottom line is, if you've got even only $5K trading capital and - as the self-touting market expert/trader you make yourself out to be on your web page - and you can't trade that up into an amount many times more than that over the span of a few months, then he shouldn't be offering courses in this, or can't trade with any record of success. I assure you real traders are not wasting their time peddling this type of monkey cr@p, but are instead applying their knowledge to multiplying their money many times over. Period.
     
    If you're looking for trading rooms, start by eliminating anyone who does not have a verifiable track record. That also usually will mean eliminating anyone who is not a current member - with a paid seat at the CME group. Why? They have a history, they have a location, they have a track record - they're don't own/rent the seat and space to lose $$$ or suck in newbies. I am not selling anything, but when I checked out a few trading rooms that met this criteria, eminiexchange and Anthony was uber professional: called out trades in a formal way, documented, and explained what was going on. Plus he's been at it for 25 years, and didn't just set up shop out of Wasaga Beach Towne TV shop. Heck the daily free content on Anthony's site is worth more than most of the cr@p people charge for. One other extremely respectable operation that comes to mind is Mr Top Step, although I don't know to what extent they do trade calls from their room.
     
    Remember, don't try to go ferret out guys who are telling you they have invented fire - they are the snake oil salesmen; you want to find and stick to the guys who have refined and modernized fire, and are using it to produce wonderful things for them, and by extension for you.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from csn in 0ill Tr@ding Ac@demy Beginner And Advanced   
    Thanks for the videos @FloridaTrader ... I've not watched them and will probably not download them, and certainly don't want you to take this the wrong way (as I have not seen the video content); this dude shows up on boards every so often, trying to realtime predict where CL will swing next, and very quickly gets very confrontational and in record time p!sses everyone off, and just as quickly gets banned and tossed.
     
    I recall others posting about his past, which has had other shady ventures; he also lives in a below average apartment, yet professes to have broken 'the code'. His name is known, and when you google, there are tons of folks who have been ripped off by his courses, promises, and trading room. Honestly, anyone who pretends to be that good in CL trading, wouldn't be living where he does and ongoingly peddling courses that few have found value in; in brief, mastering CL trading can IMHO lead to significant financial prosperity. :)
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from guedesjunior25 in @Dv@nced T1me & 5@les (@T@5)   
    While this is a slick looking package, there is nothing I have seen in the video that is not already implemented in NT7, often available with free add-ons or with many various 'educated' indicators endlessly posted here on indo. Don't fall into the trap of buying this based on looks and a flashy video: for the vast majority of users this will translate into 1) informational analysis-paralysis and 2) will not necessarily make you any better or profitable a trader. There is much not shown in the flashy video that you will still need to depend on for profitable trading (trendlines, traditional support resistance, fibs, VWAP) - too many traders overlook those, in search of far more glitzy options, that they don't often can't comprehend in a real-time environment.
     
    Not to mention, there is a practical side to consider after purchasing or using this package: ie., (separate) datafeed costs, the fact it will be unlikely to interface with your broker, meaning you have to run another package alongside for trade exectution and management, etc.
     
    Which components are available elsewhere via NT addons? Here there are:
     
     

    Smart Tape/Order Aggregation: vvAggregatedTS is fully configurable to display the same order grouping and large market entries as shown in the video. Graphic here ( https://cdn.bmcharts.com/v/esguqr.jpg ) and some of the configurable settings are shown here ( https://cdn.bmcharts.com/v/rmy8br.jpg ) This is an 'elite' iindicator available via BMT.



     

    Cumulative Delta Tracking & Volume Ladders are all available via the GOM indicator infrastructure for NT7. CD tracking has various indicators where it can visual plot for you on screen if your buy or sell delta is + or -, and the exact number. There is a PriceSwingAction indicator that has seen much variation (again BMT) that will show you exactly CD counts on all timeframe charts from a swing high to low the amount of + or -. There is also an indicator that allows you to pick a point from which you want to start tracking the CD: click the bar on whatever timeframe chart, and then select the ending bar, or, just have it accumulate in realtime to show you the balance.



     

    Displaying large buy/sell points on a chart is available most recently via @Borisytch 's neat indicators, which allow for excellent configuration: see my previously posted details on that here: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22320-Big-bid-ask-orders-on-a-chart?p=283831&viewfull=1#post283831



     

    Market Profile charting has IMO been done to death (in various NT7 implementations) - they are all quite competent, with slight variances on graphics. Rancho has been educated to death around here, and, there are awesome. BMT versions such as AltoGOMMP are also incredibly configurable; here's an example: http://postimg.org/image/k0rsxpge3/



    IMHO when one is spoon fed all these features in an off the shelf package, as opposed to discovering and implementing them individually - adding them to a charting packaged you probably know a lot better already - and, with a decent amount of trail and error, it is then that you gain a better understanding and appreciation for how your price data is being displayed, and what to make of it. Remember: just as some people are able to make money with a small set of indicators and a basic charting package - not having a glitzy one like being offered here - is no guarantee that YOU will be able to be profitable with this package; IMHO it is better to dive into the price action with these various addons, rather than trudge through learning yet another software package, which ultimately culminates with a disappointed and unprofitable trader, who too often then has yet another reason on why they "failed": in short, stop the cycle of looking for the holy grail indicator or software, and learn how to use the ones you have in your existing package, and try to become consistenly profitable sooner rather than later.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from ciardim in @Dv@nced T1me & 5@les (@T@5)   
    While this is a slick looking package, there is nothing I have seen in the video that is not already implemented in NT7, often available with free add-ons or with many various 'educated' indicators endlessly posted here on indo. Don't fall into the trap of buying this based on looks and a flashy video: for the vast majority of users this will translate into 1) informational analysis-paralysis and 2) will not necessarily make you any better or profitable a trader. There is much not shown in the flashy video that you will still need to depend on for profitable trading (trendlines, traditional support resistance, fibs, VWAP) - too many traders overlook those, in search of far more glitzy options, that they don't often can't comprehend in a real-time environment.
     
    Not to mention, there is a practical side to consider after purchasing or using this package: ie., (separate) datafeed costs, the fact it will be unlikely to interface with your broker, meaning you have to run another package alongside for trade exectution and management, etc.
     
    Which components are available elsewhere via NT addons? Here there are:
     
     

    Smart Tape/Order Aggregation: vvAggregatedTS is fully configurable to display the same order grouping and large market entries as shown in the video. Graphic here ( https://cdn.bmcharts.com/v/esguqr.jpg ) and some of the configurable settings are shown here ( https://cdn.bmcharts.com/v/rmy8br.jpg ) This is an 'elite' iindicator available via BMT.



     

    Cumulative Delta Tracking & Volume Ladders are all available via the GOM indicator infrastructure for NT7. CD tracking has various indicators where it can visual plot for you on screen if your buy or sell delta is + or -, and the exact number. There is a PriceSwingAction indicator that has seen much variation (again BMT) that will show you exactly CD counts on all timeframe charts from a swing high to low the amount of + or -. There is also an indicator that allows you to pick a point from which you want to start tracking the CD: click the bar on whatever timeframe chart, and then select the ending bar, or, just have it accumulate in realtime to show you the balance.



     

    Displaying large buy/sell points on a chart is available most recently via @Borisytch 's neat indicators, which allow for excellent configuration: see my previously posted details on that here: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22320-Big-bid-ask-orders-on-a-chart?p=283831&viewfull=1#post283831



     

    Market Profile charting has IMO been done to death (in various NT7 implementations) - they are all quite competent, with slight variances on graphics. Rancho has been educated to death around here, and, there are awesome. BMT versions such as AltoGOMMP are also incredibly configurable; here's an example: http://postimg.org/image/k0rsxpge3/



    IMHO when one is spoon fed all these features in an off the shelf package, as opposed to discovering and implementing them individually - adding them to a charting packaged you probably know a lot better already - and, with a decent amount of trail and error, it is then that you gain a better understanding and appreciation for how your price data is being displayed, and what to make of it. Remember: just as some people are able to make money with a small set of indicators and a basic charting package - not having a glitzy one like being offered here - is no guarantee that YOU will be able to be profitable with this package; IMHO it is better to dive into the price action with these various addons, rather than trudge through learning yet another software package, which ultimately culminates with a disappointed and unprofitable trader, who too often then has yet another reason on why they "failed": in short, stop the cycle of looking for the holy grail indicator or software, and learn how to use the ones you have in your existing package, and try to become consistenly profitable sooner rather than later.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from xenonhd in Review For Trading Rooms...Software Used...Price...Room Quality in Making Money   
    @longboat - lol, what a great set of reviews!!! Uncensored and telling it like it is - I love it!!! These are the reviews missing from even third party observers, reviewing on sites like traderslaboratory and BMT!
     
    What the above does underline is that
     
    1) it is incredibly hard to make consistent money trading
     
    2) for most traders - at least the kind running chat rooms - it truly is distracting to run the room, field questions, create dialogue/value, AND be in proper sync with the market; when I am trading properly, the slightest distraction (phone, posting, reading sites/twitters) can have an incredibly detrimental effect on my trading
     
    3) if these guys were as good as they are, they would not be deriving a significant portion of their income from these so called trading rooms; these guys running these rooms are incredibly far from decent traders - the decent ones are turning over their accounts many times a year, and doing so without anyone gazing in. I have come across a few honest folks running trade rooms (ie., Hubert Senters) who has admitted that the rooms, sales, and other commissions net him at least one-third of his overall profits - that is quite alluring.
     
    A couple of other things come to mind: Rob Hoffman last year lost $282K on a ~$320K live account in the trading room - there were at least 17 folks in there at the time, he was trading TF, got upside down, and added to a losing position with something like over 800+ lots - I think he was 890+ lots in all together, and price plowed through, and all saw the broker confirmation that he'd reached 80%+ loss position, and he was liquidated. He'd been in a trading alliance with Senters & John Carter at the time, and shortly thereafter got booted, and now has his own trading room. Yes, everyone can have a bad day, but it is those rare mistakes with too much leverage that can blow one up; I truly feel bad for him, losing that type of real coin in minutes.
     
    On the positive side, if you are looking for a room, Anthony at eminiexchange seems genuine - they have trials every so often and seem like they'd grant access even on one-off requests. When I was in there a few weeks ago, there were ~40 members in the room, and Anthony is very regimented about calling trades, scratching them, and even declaring losses - that discipline is very rare, and while his stats are not spectacular, they seem accurate (in contrast to the mumbo jumbo-traders posted above by @longboat.
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    ⭐ osijek1289 got a reaction from rodamas in Big Mike Trading Ninja indicators   
    D over at OFA will tell you that the way non-OFA packages are and have been doing it, is completely wrong - I believe the most recent video on his youtube channel within the 1st 20min gets into the 'ludicruosness' of this,with him referring to it as something that children can determine as being wrong. (The reference to a diagonal mismatch of buyers and sellers and other's volume footprint charts). But, the premise remains that buyers lift the price and sellers push it down; in a instrument like CL where 1 cent increments don't mean an awful lot (to the big players who will accumulate as selling pushes price down, and also do the opposite), I do not believe this makes a huge difference to the prices at each and every 1 cent price level. Instead, it is key to try and determine which range is seeing accumulation and distribution, and then when it stops as it comes to key levels of previous chart supply/demand, POCs, fibs (current day and previous day's), along with other things on that chart (and sometimes in other instruments as real time price and events/news unfold). 
    I have recently started using OFA and having watched some/many of the videos, I am starting to see that there's been some cherry picking of scenarios involved. It's important to note that the behaviour of CL ES TF GC can all be very very different when it comes to viewing them in anyone's volume footprint or orderflow charts: divergences can be extremely different, the range that price will retrace can be very different,and overall intent can take much much longer to play out in some of these instruments, causing incredible doubt and inevitable grief to a retail trader's psychology and often to their account balance (by running stops, ie., which will be FAR wider in GC and CL than say ES -and the actual $$$ it will cost you - this has to do with liquidity differences but also inherent price behavious differences). Personally, there is FAR too little attention paid to the differences in these in these instruments price action and behaviours by the majority of people, which, is why indicator's arrows/signals to buy or sell at a single point simply do not work *consistently* - in trading, there is no such thing as a 'one size fits all' (instruments) approach.
     
    Having now used OFA for a few days, the blue and red momentum dots in something like CL can be very dubious, if one is simply looking to them. They work a little better and more consistently it seems in ES, but that seems to be mostly because it's gone straight up for 8/9 days since the 1730 bottom, now getting into back into the 1830's. I wont be able to give a better assessment of it until I have seen many more weeks of the market's price action.
     
    I have been using the gom indicators for years now. I like them better. A lot of that is because I have become used to the system and patterns and general 'ongoings' of price in instruments like oil. As I mentioned, in comparison to OFA, it will still show accumulation/distribution buyers/sellers initiating, over a range, which can easily be 50cents.
     
    There are 2 ways to collect the data from gom: an 'estimation' methodology (because ninja does not store the up and down tick data, so to plot a historical chart needs to use this method) but part of gom is that if your PC is running and receiving a realtime data feed, it actually records this very relevant data (to exactly determine if it is the buyer or seller that initiated that tick) and it then stores that data in an incredibly efficient file, so that when you request historical data against that instrument, your buy/sell data is 100% accurate. Thus, if you have a completely unfiltered data feed (IB for example is terrible data), you will have completely accurate historical buy/sell data stored within your NT, by way of the proprietary gom data files. The down side to this of course is that to capture this data, your PC and Ninja needs to be running and receiving this data for all the periods you want it for, ie., running 5 days a week, 24 hours a day, or, during the time period your instrument trades. (if your ISP charges you for data overages beyond a set gigabyte amount, this can be a problem {towards your monthly ISP bill} or, if your data connection drops more often, ninja doesn't always reconnect as it should, so you wake up and see that you may be missing hours of gom data. The positive flipside here is that you can run the replay {after 5pm est, and a 16x speed or more, to re-collect or 'fill in' those data gaps})
     
    If using OFA within Ninja, I believe it uses the estimation methodology I mentioned UNLESS one has IQ/Feed as your data provider, since it is one of the only/few data providers that will send historical data with the up/down tick information. (Not completely sure on OFAs abilities here). If this is so, OFA would in theory give the same accuracy as having your gom infrastructured PC collect (and store) the up/down tick data.
     
    Having said all that, I'd say the differences between the 2 data collection/portrayal methodologies are about 93 to 97% similar, and probably more. Just a guess on that, from having compared volume footprint chart of gom, and ranchodinero, the latter of which would be using a tick/data collection methodology similar to OFA. I have not yet done a chart side-by-side comparison of OFA to GOM volume footprints because the OFA indicators default to using their specific bar type (6/4 for ES, 12/6 for CL) and I like to use either minute or range/tick charts for GOM. I am not sure if OFA allows one to change the bar type, and still see their portrayal of volume footprint charts.
     
    The other aspect in choosing between volume footprintcharts from OFA, gom or rancho (there are others too), might be esthetic or functionality. The rancho/acme ones have a very nifty built-in feature that when you resize the chartwidth and/or height, it will decrease/increase the font size of the buyer/seller numbers within the bar. But, I'm not a fan of how it is laid out graphically - I prefer the fixed font/bar size nature of gom, but more so the 'cleaner' way it is displayed, also having a histogram corresponding to the number of buyers and sellers at each price, at each bar. Gom also display the actual candle between the sellers and buyers, allowing you to see any wick lengths, therebuy (to me) giving me more information within the volumefootprint chart - this latter item I do not believe I have seen on any other competitor's volume footprint charts. There are other feature differences too, that can have a useful impact to day-to-day usage, like the gom ability to consolidate price on it's volumefootprint to 2 price levels, since the 1 cent granular level in CL is in my opinion too much data sometimes, and, can become a screen real estate issue. Also, the gom infrastructure has shown itself to be extremely versatile, with widely varying ways to display the data (because it is all open source), and there have been fantastic programmers who have created indicators like metrovolumeadditionv2/3 to display the data very differently; this latter one I think has made a purposeful attempt to make it look and act more like OFA, right down to doing the 'correct' diagonal buyer-to-seller comparison. It is a combination of these indicators that I have mentioned (along with some other really good ones) that has prompted folks like LePrivateBanker (check his twitter feed) to create some really nifty order flow charts, drawing on this open source code - check his tweet of January 16 for a view of how the orderflow data can be displayed) In closing, I would say that the versatility of gom allows for finding a better chart view and methodology for the individual trader, but finding the right indicators that work for you can take some time, and they can be tough to find (they are all almost exclusively found on bigmike trading).
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    D over at OFA will tell you that the way non-OFA packages are and have been doing it, is completely wrong - I believe the most recent video on his youtube channel within the 1st 20min gets into the 'ludicruosness' of this,with him referring to it as something that children can determine as being wrong. (The reference to a diagonal mismatch of buyers and sellers and other's volume footprint charts). But, the premise remains that buyers lift the price and sellers push it down; in a instrument like CL where 1 cent increments don't mean an awful lot (to the big players who will accumulate as selling pushes price down, and also do the opposite), I do not believe this makes a huge difference to the prices at each and every 1 cent price level. Instead, it is key to try and determine which range is seeing accumulation and distribution, and then when it stops as it comes to key levels of previous chart supply/demand, POCs, fibs (current day and previous day's), along with other things on that chart (and sometimes in other instruments as real time price and events/news unfold). 
    I have recently started using OFA and having watched some/many of the videos, I am starting to see that there's been some cherry picking of scenarios involved. It's important to note that the behaviour of CL ES TF GC can all be very very different when it comes to viewing them in anyone's volume footprint or orderflow charts: divergences can be extremely different, the range that price will retrace can be very different,and overall intent can take much much longer to play out in some of these instruments, causing incredible doubt and inevitable grief to a retail trader's psychology and often to their account balance (by running stops, ie., which will be FAR wider in GC and CL than say ES -and the actual $$$ it will cost you - this has to do with liquidity differences but also inherent price behavious differences). Personally, there is FAR too little attention paid to the differences in these in these instruments price action and behaviours by the majority of people, which, is why indicator's arrows/signals to buy or sell at a single point simply do not work *consistently* - in trading, there is no such thing as a 'one size fits all' (instruments) approach.
     
    Having now used OFA for a few days, the blue and red momentum dots in something like CL can be very dubious, if one is simply looking to them. They work a little better and more consistently it seems in ES, but that seems to be mostly because it's gone straight up for 8/9 days since the 1730 bottom, now getting into back into the 1830's. I wont be able to give a better assessment of it until I have seen many more weeks of the market's price action.
     
    I have been using the gom indicators for years now. I like them better. A lot of that is because I have become used to the system and patterns and general 'ongoings' of price in instruments like oil. As I mentioned, in comparison to OFA, it will still show accumulation/distribution buyers/sellers initiating, over a range, which can easily be 50cents.
     
    There are 2 ways to collect the data from gom: an 'estimation' methodology (because ninja does not store the up and down tick data, so to plot a historical chart needs to use this method) but part of gom is that if your PC is running and receiving a realtime data feed, it actually records this very relevant data (to exactly determine if it is the buyer or seller that initiated that tick) and it then stores that data in an incredibly efficient file, so that when you request historical data against that instrument, your buy/sell data is 100% accurate. Thus, if you have a completely unfiltered data feed (IB for example is terrible data), you will have completely accurate historical buy/sell data stored within your NT, by way of the proprietary gom data files. The down side to this of course is that to capture this data, your PC and Ninja needs to be running and receiving this data for all the periods you want it for, ie., running 5 days a week, 24 hours a day, or, during the time period your instrument trades. (if your ISP charges you for data overages beyond a set gigabyte amount, this can be a problem {towards your monthly ISP bill} or, if your data connection drops more often, ninja doesn't always reconnect as it should, so you wake up and see that you may be missing hours of gom data. The positive flipside here is that you can run the replay {after 5pm est, and a 16x speed or more, to re-collect or 'fill in' those data gaps})
     
    If using OFA within Ninja, I believe it uses the estimation methodology I mentioned UNLESS one has IQ/Feed as your data provider, since it is one of the only/few data providers that will send historical data with the up/down tick information. (Not completely sure on OFAs abilities here). If this is so, OFA would in theory give the same accuracy as having your gom infrastructured PC collect (and store) the up/down tick data.
     
    Having said all that, I'd say the differences between the 2 data collection/portrayal methodologies are about 93 to 97% similar, and probably more. Just a guess on that, from having compared volume footprint chart of gom, and ranchodinero, the latter of which would be using a tick/data collection methodology similar to OFA. I have not yet done a chart side-by-side comparison of OFA to GOM volume footprints because the OFA indicators default to using their specific bar type (6/4 for ES, 12/6 for CL) and I like to use either minute or range/tick charts for GOM. I am not sure if OFA allows one to change the bar type, and still see their portrayal of volume footprint charts.
     
    The other aspect in choosing between volume footprintcharts from OFA, gom or rancho (there are others too), might be esthetic or functionality. The rancho/acme ones have a very nifty built-in feature that when you resize the chartwidth and/or height, it will decrease/increase the font size of the buyer/seller numbers within the bar. But, I'm not a fan of how it is laid out graphically - I prefer the fixed font/bar size nature of gom, but more so the 'cleaner' way it is displayed, also having a histogram corresponding to the number of buyers and sellers at each price, at each bar. Gom also display the actual candle between the sellers and buyers, allowing you to see any wick lengths, therebuy (to me) giving me more information within the volumefootprint chart - this latter item I do not believe I have seen on any other competitor's volume footprint charts. There are other feature differences too, that can have a useful impact to day-to-day usage, like the gom ability to consolidate price on it's volumefootprint to 2 price levels, since the 1 cent granular level in CL is in my opinion too much data sometimes, and, can become a screen real estate issue. Also, the gom infrastructure has shown itself to be extremely versatile, with widely varying ways to display the data (because it is all open source), and there have been fantastic programmers who have created indicators like metrovolumeadditionv2/3 to display the data very differently; this latter one I think has made a purposeful attempt to make it look and act more like OFA, right down to doing the 'correct' diagonal buyer-to-seller comparison. It is a combination of these indicators that I have mentioned (along with some other really good ones) that has prompted folks like LePrivateBanker (check his twitter feed) to create some really nifty order flow charts, drawing on this open source code - check his tweet of January 16 for a view of how the orderflow data can be displayed) In closing, I would say that the versatility of gom allows for finding a better chart view and methodology for the individual trader, but finding the right indicators that work for you can take some time, and they can be tough to find (they are all almost exclusively found on bigmike trading).
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    OK, lots of concerns/questions here. You sound like you are currently importing data from yahoo or some other free source, more than likely only daily data. Thus, you are only pulling in historical data - not sure if it is daily or minute data (and, from that minute data you may be building 15M, H1 charts, or whatever other timeframe). Few people will use the import data feature of NT7; and, when you do, since it is not real time, you have to grab data you don't have - if you right click your NT chart, there is a IMPORT HISTORICAL DATA option to refresh - if that does not work, I guess you have to exit and restart NT7 - that is incredibly cumbersome. And, even with an account of less than a few tens of thousands of dollars, an incredibly difficult way to trade (against daily charts; if they are spot forex or futures data, whether it be daily of minute data, without a real time datafeed, your capital will not exist for long IMHO) 

    No. You will lose your mind. And time. And thus be grossly unproductive clicking around and exiting/entering. You will spend too much of your brain cycles doing needless "keep NT running and data updated" type work.
     

    A proper live datafeed is comprised of two components: the ability to pull historical data, and the ability to receive realtime data. When you have a proper datafeed coming into NT, your charts will update 'automatically' as you say, because realtime data is flowing in. 
    BTW, I am not sure what you are trading (futures, spot forex, stocks?) Not sure if you are aware, but not all datafeeds offer everything.
     

     
    I think you are being far too optimistic. Order flow - and a good strategy - is not the holy grail, is in no way guaranteed, nor is it ever never ever the last piece of the puzzle. You sound like you are quite new to trading; I will provide you some advice based on the hundreds of thousands (and more) people who have preceeded you: there is no single strategy that works all the time. Period. And, if it works for you ten trades in a row, the 11th could be a news flash or something else that takes out half your accumulated profits of the previous ten trades. @445NDO 's advice is spot on: you may be only discovering the 1st piece of a puzzle, that needs hundreds of pieces.
     
    I'm still not sure what you mean by order flow and what visual/graphic format you plan to use within NT7; I gave some examples in a previous post. You do sound new to trading - starting with volume footprint charts is a big step. And, depending on the instrument and market(s) you trade, it can behave quite differently.
     
    Assuming you or someone is quite comfortable with the basics of price action, support/resistance, fibs, channels, retraces, chart patterns, flags, etc - it is only after that that I would dive into true order flow. There have been some excellent resources posted here that talk about true order flow recently; I'll list a few below - if you have not viewed everything that is in these presentations - plus anything else those folks have produced and then practiced it for hunderds (yes, I said hundreds) of hours - and understood it, and had any success rate, you are far from any last piece of any puzzle. Not being cruel, just realistic.
     
     
     

    Volume at price presentation, an excellent intro to order flow: https://[email protected]/#!okhiACjT!XuvEo15mosyqpq0DnVYMgkFXCfptSHD8up2cyZ0 KGfc (full credit to @Lenry from here http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22162-(Req)%E2%80%98The-Private-Banker%E2%80%99-Chart-Templates?p=288344&viewfull=1#post288344 )

    Jigsaw-specific education program on orderflow - this is some excellent stuff: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22682-Jigs-w-webinar-from-JP-Tr-ding-Room-(jpjtr-ding-c0m)?p=288283#post288283

    Fulcrum trader delta volume analysis: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22333-GET-Fulcrum-Trader-Delta-Volume-Analyis

    Not sure about these, haven't watched, too many flashy pictures and not enough meat from my quick scan, but might be worth it: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22283-Order-Flow-Videos?p=282249&viewfull=1#post282249

    And someone posted this directly to the forum (it's excellent), but it seems sourced here; there's some other decent stuff on this site, but some of it is dog poo :D http://tutorialsdl.com/rancho-dinero-market-profile-and-order-flow-webinars/

    And a post I did summarizing where some other orderflow related stuff is available: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/22337-Dv-nced-T1me-amp-5-les-(-T-5)?p=284002&viewfull=1#post284002

    And, youtube is full of order flow stuff; L2St comes to mind, as does this excellent if infrequent;y posted to channel: htps://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrivateBanker

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