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This should be the educated version of the DLL. After you've downloaded the existing full install in the earlier part of the thread, exit NT7, and place this file overtop of the existing one. Since this is the 32bit version, delete JayClusterV5a.dll and create a copy of JayClusterV5a.x86.dll, renaming it JayClusterV5a.dll.

 

http://[email protected]/?m8uel0a11q08wqp

Here is the QuantArb system, posted back on April 5. Full credit goes to @gorbat as the original poster. It appears the original thread 'disappeared', as sometimes happens here, with the really good 'stuff.' (The thread title was 'FTD Indicators')

 

These strategies are updated frequently by their author, and I believe that is part of the naming convention of the files. Included in the upload are what I believe are all the quant arb related files, and a few decent videos.

 

I had run either these or some of the other strats of FTD against replay data, and was able to get them to trade. They were quirky to get working, being very picky and exacting about the settings, but I don't at this time remember all the exact things I tried (when I got them to work against replay data). The above info from @tradershare seems important, as I did not recall having that level of detail (ie., that 20 bars of data was needed).

 

These are potentially some of the best strategies out there, at least based on what seem like decent video samples by the author, who has a decent reputation. But, I am just not comfortable letting these run against real money accounts, perhaps partially because I can trade myself. I think they are instrument specific, so, IMO even running a 1 lot trader against ES would require a bare minimum of a $5000 account, and double that to be comfortable; depending on volatility, ATR, time of year, and how the market 'feels', these could either work well, or, cost you. I'd not installed them on my production machine, since, I like to keep that clean and in tip top shape.

 

In case anyone's interested, some of the other files were FDTSystems190112.zip, HiLoStrategy061211.zip, HiLoDiv_010311_NT7.zip. There were many OFlow files as well, specific to ES, TF, NQ, and a larger number of video/setup files. They are not posted here.

 

Here's the QuantArb stuff: hxxp://dep0sitfiles.c0m/files/dqlclydgy

The MT4 datafeed can't be accessed directly or outside of MT4, to be rerouted into any other program. It's proprietary and purposefully guarded, and frankly, not worth trying to get to. Nobody has done it so far to my knowledge. (you can populate MT4 data into an Excel spreadsheet via DDE, but, recreating a real-time feed and sending it somewhere or doing something with it in another application is a whole other story)

 

I've not worked with Marketdelta, but I believe they commit you to their datafeed (or may restrict it to some of the industry biggies); CSV importation by most professional packages is not provided, for many reasons. You're probably after Marketdelta orderflow and volume footprint charting - it's available in other applications. Ninjatrader is one that has an add-on available for free, as long as one has a real-time datafeed coming into Ninjatrader. Here's some info on that (GOM) NT add-in: www.bigmiketrading.com/wiki/trading-wiki/Gom-Volume-Ladder

This has the potential to be a decent tool for a trader, but is certainly not a signal service - it still requires analysis for trade potential, by the end user/trader.

 

That link on ioffer is highly suspect - not sure what it is all about - it seems to be offering a cr@cked version of the indi for a ridiculously lower price, but, I know nothing about the source. From what I have seen, I do not believe this indi has been 'educated' by anyone yet, for the NT platform. There is a MT4 version, that I find works so-so.

If i understand you right if i deposit 5000 i get the NT7 for free ??

Depositing that amount with ampfutures or many other futures brokers (which need to have a datafeed specifically supported by NT), will give you a full and proper datafeed for free essentially. You get to use NT for free, while you are with this brokerage; there is still a license key involved, which only will work for the time you are with the brokerage. Continuing with my example of Ampfutures, they offer free CQG when one opens an account there. (Zenfire is free as well, but has an inactivity charge if you dont trade, of $25 per month). The CQG (or zenfire) feeds are the full capacity feeds, as offered if you were to purchase them (per month) from those providers, where the rate is $75/month and higher. BUT, note than with a futures broker, you only get access to symbols or instruments that they allow you to trade. That's why I said for $2500 one can trade all currency futures (M6E, M6B) and I believe ES and some other indexes. I think their minimum deposit is $5000 to have full access to trade all symbols on their pages. Here are the symbols one can trade there, and, the necessary DAY trading margins - http://www.ampfutures.com/margins_req.html

 

They provide you NT for free (except I think for a 10 cents per trade charge). The free version allows you to open and close trades via the DOM. For an additional $60/month, you can place trades from the chart. This full usage charge is purchased directly from NT, every 3 months. Here are those options: http://www.ninjatrader.com/purchase-lease.php

 

Do note that while this gives you a full copy of NT, you can't chart forex pairs or stock pairs with it, simply because it is not part of that broker's datafeed. But, if you check with a broker like Interactive Brokers and MB Trading, they allow you to trade most instruments. You would have to contact them directly about NT charges or usage, but I believe that last link I provided should cover all the possible ways of using or paying for NT. IMO, $60 per month for the full package is not unreasonable, given or hopefully one is able to make some profits in trading.

yes but only demo tradeding..if you like to trade live you need to purchase nt..

Not true. :) Check http://www.ampfutures.com/ninjatrader_cqg.php . One can use it for free to live trade - and have a full historical and realtime CQG datafeed at no cost. (other than maintaining a account balance) The 100% free version of NT allows you to trade via the DOM, meaning you place buy and sell orders at price levels within the DOM - any and all indicators that work in NT will be fully functional. (As a futures brokerage, you do not have stocks or spot forex access here) Your account balance determines if you can trade mini currency futures ($2500), or all the futures instruments (>$5000). (Mini currency futures essentially mimic the spot forex pairs, which, you could follow on a MT4 demo platform) For an additional $60/month (purchased in 3 month increments), NT allows you to place traders directly from the chart, and use full advanced order management - this is the full and complete version of NT, where you are essentially renting it, at $180 for every 3 months. Frankly, if one is live trading, and cannot justify this small cost, then one should not be live trading. An alternative is to use the free version along side a ~$100/month realtime datafeed. But, if you do that math, having the minimum balance with Amp Futures might be more cost effective.

 

I think the same holds true for some of the spot forex providers listed on NT's web pages. (Interactive Brokers [you can trade stocks with them], MB Trading) http://www.deepdiscounttrading.com/TradingPlatforms.html is an example of another futures broker, where the same free or $60/month charges hold true.

Hi

 

the AlphaTrend Momentum indicators are only running with my 32-bit version not with the 64-bit version. Is there a solution for the 64-bit-version?

 

Thanks

I'm not exactly sure which thread and indi files you've downloaded, but I think the 'repair work' going on around here is usually towards the 32-bit DLL file. FYI, NT requires a separate DLL that is used when the 64-bit NT platform is launched. All providers of indicators supply 2 separate DLLs. And, I don't think the 64-bit DLLs are being "fixed." Kinda of a shame, as, there is no benefit to running anything other than the 64bit version of NT on a 64 bit Windows install, and I'm not sure why anyone would do it, given 4GB RAM (and more) is so incredibly accessible to anyone.

does the JayClusterV5a.X86.dll only with 32bit ? is there a work around for 64bit NT? I tried it and of course it didn't work ... any luck anybody with 64bit?

They're separate DLL's, so it may be that zeraw is only focusing on fixing the 32bit DLL. Bit of a bummer, yeah, as everyone should really be running x64 to access more than 3GB of their RAM - many people have 4GB and 8GB, and probably don't know it's going unused in a x32 system. We can mostly thank Bill and MSFT for that retarded practice of separately pricing x32 and x64.

No broker has any reason to support NT6.5. And since NT controls the datafeed interface, 6.5 is dead.

 

Most of the C## is the same for NT7 - if you have proprietary indicators, a programmer could rewrite/update them with minimal expense. Sellers of indicators, if they felt there was a market, developed NT7 version indicators, and zeraw31 may be able to help 'open' them.

Not sure if you're aware ... NT7 (with no ability to place trades from the chart, meaning trades are places via the DOM) - is free (I think there is some 10 cents per side on real trades). There are many brokers that will let you demo/SIM trade for at least 10 days and I have heard 20-30 days in total. You can then say "its not for you" and switch to another futures broker, if you need more time.

I think it would be helpful if folks included whose indicator it is, what it does, and how they know it would be valuable, if it were cracked. I suspect zeraw31 would probably appreciate that too.

 

If nothing else, it might spawn some discussion on a similarly available indicator, or even a better one that is available for free, or, a similar one that has already been cracked; the reality is that there is very little unique about most indicators, and, at the end of the day, traders spend far too much time looking for an indicator that will help them make money, when in fact, the solution to making money lies elsewhere - ask any trader who has made it, and you will usually find that indicator overload was a phase they went through, ultimately dumping most of them. Just sayin'. :)

It can't be made to work with the current versions of NT since they changed the security and authentication used within DLLs at version around 7.0.0.2, and any vendors with DLLs had to rewrite/recompile them for the new standards.

yeah, i found the same thing, with that particular file. I am not sure why. (while other rapidshare downloads tend to be much faster). oh well, eventually, it comes in.

This link works, and the rar is error free. (There is a space showing up in the word 'Market' below - not sure why - eliminate the space)

 

https://[email protected]/files/3338870163/Wyckoff_by_the_Action-Sequence_Method_-_An_Effective_Way_to_Teach_and_Learn_Technical_Market_Analysis_-_Hank_Pruden.rar

Ok guys this is what I can give you ,but I don't have a clue if this is the correct one.

anyway try it and give us the results.

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b6sujd

 

egaal

 

Thanks egaal. Unfortunately, it's one of those earlier versions that will not work on current editions of NT7, due to DLL protection changes instigated by Ninj@tr@der. Anyone still straggling with pre NT 7.1000.2 (might have been 7.1000.4) should be able to use this, but, that would then exclude usage of all the other far newer indis, and fine work being undertaken by @zeraw31. :)

Agree, it would be a bit of a find. The one that's out there is for pre-NT 7.00.2: NT changed their DLL authentication after that, and no protected DLLs written for earlier versions remained working on newer versions of NT7.

I was looking for something else, and just came across this on a freebie type page, with some decent indis on it: it basically passes live prices from NT back into a Excel spreadsheet via DDE. I don't think there is a way to export or live display any new or ongoing trades via this simple methodology. But, in theory, if one wrote a NT indicator that monitored for new trades, in theory, it should be possible to somehow hand that off outside of NT via DDE.

 

http://www.volumedigger.com/NinjaTrader/Miscellaneous/NinjaTrader_DDE.aspx

Any idea if this would be via DDE? It's very fast. Seems to be connected directly to some part of NT7

http://www.toolsfortrader.com/Products.html

My guess is it does not work via DLL. I watched the video, and it seems like an OK built piece of code in Ninjascript (C#), but the way it works would be discomforting to me, because of many reasons: it gets it's historical data elsewhere, and then presumably gets the live feed from Dukascopy (which doesn't mean it goes into the historical NT database). If I were trading a real account, I would not at all (technically) feel safe with this approach. Plus, the cost of $500 is unduly high, and, when I see the video describe how to save 46% of Dukascopy commissions by using this outfit as the IB, I worry about the obviousy money-grabbing nature of it all. (There are outfits that openly admit to giving you a Dukascopy commission rebate, like molecule6, which is the highest around I believe) For whatever reason, Dukascopy just doesn't want to introduce other trading tools, other than their j-forex.

 

Not sure of your exact intent with NT and some other broker ... not sure if you know, but there are decent or OK forex brokers that offer spot forex trading, such as PFG Best. I'm not saying they are 100% fantastic as I have heard of issues, but if your goal is to have a NT strategy trade with a spot FX broker, then there are options.

Converting MT4 to C# Ninjascript is not really the focus of this board - it is a heapload of work, and frankly, almost never ever worth it. Besides, one can get almost all futures prices on MT4.

Can't say I've heard of that approach. You can though pull all that information via a basic indicator, via Ninjascript, and then output it in a number of ways, ie., to a text file, to be picked up by whatever is seeking the info, or, one could get fancy and probably pass it via DDE or something similar.

Alpari does not support NT; for a MT4 shop to support NT, is rare. ATC is one of the rare few I have seen, although I'm not sure if they offer spot through Ninjatrader or only futures. http://www.atcbrokers.com/platforms/ninjatrader.php

You're more than likely running Windows 7 and have by default the stoopid UAC feature turned on in Windows. And, if your Mt4 is installed in the usual default path \Program Files , your EAs and indicators don't go in there but elsewhere, like one of the following directories. (Sorry, I dont use Windows 7)

 

C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Local\<MT4 directory>\...

C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\<MT4 directory>\...

C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\LocalLow\<MT4 directory>\...

 

You might want to install MT4 to a directory other than \Program Files, perhaps right into the root drive, into it's own folder, and you can then place EAs and indicators directly into there. Or, disable UAC - google the web on how to do it --- not completely sure if it needs registry editting, but be careful if you undertake those steps.

 

There could be other issues causing you not to see them, but I'd check the above first.

enjoyaol, I think you're right only when a less-popularized and "self-regulated" forex broker is used - that applies to the vast majority of MT4 houses. The Hotforex's, Admirals, Alparis of the world when they take on a $100, $1000 or smallish amount customer deposit, expect that they will get 80% of that money in their pocket, meanwhile speeding the process along with wider spreads and dealing desks.

 

But, the forex market is $4 trillion daily, far more than currency futures. There is huge institutional presence in the market that does not get talked about by the traders on boards like this. And those institutions make money and receive tight largely uniform pricing on their charts. MT4 is an incredibly small and largely meaningless part of the spot forex trading market. Once you get to a true ECN/STP level via your forex broker (MT4 or other platform), there is more than enough liquidity there, and you are trading with largely standardized prices. MT4 is even available via Citibank, a top 5 liquidity provider. Other decent forex paths with incredibly tight spreads are Currenex, Berkley ( http://www.bfl.co.uk/online-trading/forex.html ) Barclays ( http://www.barx.com/fx/index.html ) or other channels that give you access to FXAll, Hotspot and others. Liquidity is really the key - when you have that - prices will be within fractions of pips among all the providers. True, you need $50K+ to access many of these, but there are decent names in the MT4 field that even the playing field a lot in the world of MT4.

 

But, when people choose to trade with brokers in Cyprus, Belize, Mauritius and don't recognize they chose to locate there because the broker can choose to do what he wants, regardless of affiliations and what the customer-broker contract says, well, then it's only the wild west that will save you.

Looks like they use the machine ID thing - there are some detailed instructions under one of the other NT indicator threads - I believe it's been the same instructions to get around that since NT6.5. BUT, it may not work with NT 7.00.4 and higher, especially if there are protected code (and DLLs) used as part of these indicators.

 

Separately, and I am not looking to threadcr@p, but it's sad to see people pay money for those indicators: there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about them, and there are free versions available for most of them, even in the free area of BMT forums. I just took a look through the PDFs on how to 'use' the indicators, and, of course they are extremely cherry picked, with the benefit of hindsight, and lots of wording to explain how it 'should' work. Do bear in mind, what is provided as explanations are fairly basic theory, again, available via any most of the free indicators available elsewhere.

 

And the worst is, they want to charge $499/month for these B.S. indicators. Beware of B.S. outfits like this - this is a complete sham.

 

http://i39.tinypic.com/ws6ao1.png

Interesting product posted by jack33l. I am an extensive NT user, and of a MT4 background, and I have seen no bridge or other way to use MT4 data on a realtime basis in NT. I'd expect no FXDD options. Really, the best option is to set up a trading account with a futures or otherwise broker (PFG?) that supports NT7 - I believe there are options where they will take $500 as a minimum deposit, which should give you realtime datafeed access to most spot and maybe futures symbols.

 

In theory you can import MetaStock format data into NT7 - see here: http://www.ninjatrader.com/support/helpGuides/nt7/index.html?importing.htm . And, if one has TradeStation running, it's data can be sent to or used in NT7 (just am not sure if this is realtime or requires importation and/or clicking). On the possibility of using MT4 data, there are a few indicators written for MT4 that will export MetaStock format data, which in theory you could import into NT7, but that requires clicking/selecting for every import, so, realtime charts of any timeframe are problematic to trade or judge from within NT7. IMHO, even if you get this working, you will get frustrated very quickly.

 

P.S. - You may want to look into Sierra Charts - they are passionate about updating their software and ever growing library of extensive indicators --- cost for package with spot FX data (with a volume feed) is <$20/month I believe. They charge more once you start adding on some of their other indicators, but the charges go up in $5 increments, and remain thoroughly reasonable IMO.