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I'm in - let's go!

Site screenshots for specific instruments and a few templates:

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can you run two ninjatrader at the same time, my goal is to run 32bit and 64bit at the same time.

Best is to install Oracle VM virtualBox. You can run a copy in each session you launch.

BTW, you can get a lot of the bookmap-like funcionality, basically for free in Sierra Charts. If you have a real trading account, a 2nd login ID is usually +$10/month, so you can run NT and SC together. http://www.tradergav.com/sierra-chart-book-sharing-market-depth-historical-graph/

Do you've verified MT4 data? it seems that its not right.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying ... I think it's that you don't trust or know of a good source of MT4 data? It really depends on the broker. And, historically what is stored within MT4 is 1 minute data, simply showing the high/low/close/open. BUT, since the realtime gyrations flow in (but are not saved or recorded by MT4), if DDE is used to read it into ninja, then ninja will have close to tick resolution.

 

Overall IMHO none of this is really worth it (I have tried) and in the end, one ends up using lots and lots of time to not only set up, but maintain (since it 'breaks' quite often), that it is better to save all that time, and put it to use to learn the markets and price action - people too often seem to forget they are in this to try and make money, not spend their time creating convoluted solutions.

It's possible?

There was a fellow who had developed a DDE bridge to feed data from MT4 to NT. I believe it was over on the actual ninjatrader support forums that you'd be able to find it, searching using 'MT4'

... I think both methods, gomrecorder and recording to ninjatickfile within ninjatrader use quite some system performance, unfortunally).

 

Actually, they are extremely and highly efficient recording and storage/recall methodologies that are used (to create/read the gom files) - impact to system performance from having various gom footprint charts running is imperceptible. The performance hit caused by too many indicators, which can be poorly written sometimes too, or running against tick charts, etc - can cause a far bigger system performance issue. This is experience from when I had a amdx4 955. As an aside, anyone seeking the best performance increase (based on $$ spent) should really have an SSD that at least Ninja runs off; 120GB SSDs can easily be found I assume world over for <$100, and you can easily put your OS and have room left over, while your harddisks are reserved for space hogging programs that do not require access speed.

Can anyone put some light on feature advantage which OFA has over Gom Ladders, i am literally confused on which one to choose. Since the learning curve is too time consuming i dont want to make a wrong choice and then switch later on after having lost all the time and effort.

 

Any seniors who have used both may pls guide me.

 

Thanx!!!!

D over at OFA will tell you that the way non-OFA packages are and have been doing it, is completely wrong - I believe the most recent video on his youtube channel within the 1st 20min gets into the 'ludicruosness' of this,with him referring to it as something that children can determine as being wrong. (The reference to a diagonal mismatch of buyers and sellers and other's volume footprint charts). But, the premise remains that buyers lift the price and sellers push it down; in a instrument like CL where 1 cent increments don't mean an awful lot (to the big players who will accumulate as selling pushes price down, and also do the opposite), I do not believe this makes a huge difference to the prices at each and every 1 cent price level. Instead, it is key to try and determine which range is seeing accumulation and distribution, and then when it stops as it comes to key levels of previous chart supply/demand, POCs, fibs (current day and previous day's), along with other things on that chart (and sometimes in other instruments as real time price and events/news unfold).

 

I have recently started using OFA and having watched some/many of the videos, I am starting to see that there's been some cherry picking of scenarios involved. It's important to note that the behaviour of CL ES TF GC can all be very very different when it comes to viewing them in anyone's volume footprint or orderflow charts: divergences can be extremely different, the range that price will retrace can be very different,and overall intent can take much much longer to play out in some of these instruments, causing incredible doubt and inevitable grief to a retail trader's psychology and often to their account balance (by running stops, ie., which will be FAR wider in GC and CL than say ES -and the actual $$$ it will cost you - this has to do with liquidity differences but also inherent price behavious differences). Personally, there is FAR too little attention paid to the differences in these in these instruments price action and behaviours by the majority of people, which, is why indicator's arrows/signals to buy or sell at a single point simply do not work *consistently* - in trading, there is no such thing as a 'one size fits all' (instruments) approach.

 

Having now used OFA for a few days, the blue and red momentum dots in something like CL can be very dubious, if one is simply looking to them. They work a little better and more consistently it seems in ES, but that seems to be mostly because it's gone straight up for 8/9 days since the 1730 bottom, now getting into back into the 1830's. I wont be able to give a better assessment of it until I have seen many more weeks of the market's price action.

 

I have been using the gom indicators for years now. I like them better. A lot of that is because I have become used to the system and patterns and general 'ongoings' of price in instruments like oil. As I mentioned, in comparison to OFA, it will still show accumulation/distribution buyers/sellers initiating, over a range, which can easily be 50cents.

 

There are 2 ways to collect the data from gom: an 'estimation' methodology (because ninja does not store the up and down tick data, so to plot a historical chart needs to use this method) but part of gom is that if your PC is running and receiving a realtime data feed, it actually records this very relevant data (to exactly determine if it is the buyer or seller that initiated that tick) and it then stores that data in an incredibly efficient file, so that when you request historical data against that instrument, your buy/sell data is 100% accurate. Thus, if you have a completely unfiltered data feed (IB for example is terrible data), you will have completely accurate historical buy/sell data stored within your NT, by way of the proprietary gom data files. The down side to this of course is that to capture this data, your PC and Ninja needs to be running and receiving this data for all the periods you want it for, ie., running 5 days a week, 24 hours a day, or, during the time period your instrument trades. (if your ISP charges you for data overages beyond a set gigabyte amount, this can be a problem {towards your monthly ISP bill} or, if your data connection drops more often, ninja doesn't always reconnect as it should, so you wake up and see that you may be missing hours of gom data. The positive flipside here is that you can run the replay {after 5pm est, and a 16x speed or more, to re-collect or 'fill in' those data gaps})

 

If using OFA within Ninja, I believe it uses the estimation methodology I mentioned UNLESS one has IQ/Feed as your data provider, since it is one of the only/few data providers that will send historical data with the up/down tick information. (Not completely sure on OFAs abilities here). If this is so, OFA would in theory give the same accuracy as having your gom infrastructured PC collect (and store) the up/down tick data.

 

Having said all that, I'd say the differences between the 2 data collection/portrayal methodologies are about 93 to 97% similar, and probably more. Just a guess on that, from having compared volume footprint chart of gom, and ranchodinero, the latter of which would be using a tick/data collection methodology similar to OFA. I have not yet done a chart side-by-side comparison of OFA to GOM volume footprints because the OFA indicators default to using their specific bar type (6/4 for ES, 12/6 for CL) and I like to use either minute or range/tick charts for GOM. I am not sure if OFA allows one to change the bar type, and still see their portrayal of volume footprint charts.

 

The other aspect in choosing between volume footprintcharts from OFA, gom or rancho (there are others too), might be esthetic or functionality. The rancho/acme ones have a very nifty built-in feature that when you resize the chartwidth and/or height, it will decrease/increase the font size of the buyer/seller numbers within the bar. But, I'm not a fan of how it is laid out graphically - I prefer the fixed font/bar size nature of gom, but more so the 'cleaner' way it is displayed, also having a histogram corresponding to the number of buyers and sellers at each price, at each bar. Gom also display the actual candle between the sellers and buyers, allowing you to see any wick lengths, therebuy (to me) giving me more information within the volumefootprint chart - this latter item I do not believe I have seen on any other competitor's volume footprint charts. There are other feature differences too, that can have a useful impact to day-to-day usage, like the gom ability to consolidate price on it's volumefootprint to 2 price levels, since the 1 cent granular level in CL is in my opinion too much data sometimes, and, can become a screen real estate issue. Also, the gom infrastructure has shown itself to be extremely versatile, with widely varying ways to display the data (because it is all open source), and there have been fantastic programmers who have created indicators like metrovolumeadditionv2/3 to display the data very differently; this latter one I think has made a purposeful attempt to make it look and act more like OFA, right down to doing the 'correct' diagonal buyer-to-seller comparison. It is a combination of these indicators that I have mentioned (along with some other really good ones) that has prompted folks like LePrivateBanker (check his twitter feed) to create some really nifty order flow charts, drawing on this open source code - check his tweet of January 16 for a view of how the orderflow data can be displayed) In closing, I would say that the versatility of gom allows for finding a better chart view and methodology for the individual trader, but finding the right indicators that work for you can take some time, and they can be tough to find (they are all almost exclusively found on bigmike trading).

@forexmaniac84 is correct above. And, 50/50 means you may as well throw darts or grab a ouija board. This is the simplest of trend following systems, from what I can tell. Yes, wins can be made. Like the recent CL drop down from $112 *may* have had you profiting with sells using this system. But, we have had a few decent $1+ plus rises. Regardless, if you can't find a better system elsewhere (for free) rather than paying, or, using this quite expensive hoax-ware, then you should just save yourself some time and give up on trading. While some successes may come with this indi and it's simpleton SMA trend following, eventually CL will face rip in the opposite direction, and the risk-to-reward will quickly take all your little gains.

 

The other telltale sign that this is hoaxware is the extreme amount of time and lip service paid to making sure it is for you, via the site and the enclosed literature. They say it is for single moms, the unemployed, haters of cubicles, and basically anyone with a pulse. So, basically 100% of the living breathing public can make money in oil trading. Yup, sounds about right.

 

As far as CL goes right now, 92/93 should be the bottoming, with some serious face rip potential to come to at least 97 IMHO, as shorts stops do a lot of the propelling back upwards.

 

Here's just a piece from the manual of this gem, FWIW. http://i.imgur.com/GcMuFTp.png

@t678d is right. NT's historical data is a minimum of 1 second and so it's not possible to deduce if the last trade was at the bid or ask price; selling and buying volume is estimated in this mode, since there is no granularity recorded in the native NT7 historical files, and this becomes a problem and most inaccurate when the market is moving quickly, and which by implications means there are lots of ticks and trades going off in a sliver of time. In brief, ninjatick mode is only up/down ticks, not bid and ask ticks. Hence, because of NT7's limitation in how the history files are recorded, the GOM *.DAT file in a very very efficient and complete manner captures all this relevant information, hence that's why it's ideal to leave your PC on and connected to the data source.

 

The same type of 'innacuracy' I believe afflicts the Ranch0-Diner0 volume impression indicators; for an explanation of what's going on, go to the CALCULATING VOLUME DELTAS WITH UP/DOWNTICK VS. BID/ASK part on this page: http://www.ranchodinero.c0m/acme-studies/acme-volume-balance-and-breakdown/ (http://www.ranchodinero.com/acme-studies/acme-volume-balance-and-breakdown/)

Having the same problem here ... edit or wanting to quote a post locks the page up. Right clicking to respond with the quote of a previous post does not carry the post to the new browser window. Chrome is (auto) updated and doesn't work in IE either (I used to have a problem in Chrome, so used IE, now that does not work.). Tried on 2 separate PCs. Strange.

There is a full and proper way to install the GOM infrastructure - I think there are some other indicators that are necessary, which need to be compiled and in the background to create the base (and variables, etc.) check your log tab - if they are not there, there may be errors in the log file.

 

Here is everything you should need [email protected]/file/f2hppu - extract those contents to a separate directory. Then, import GomBaseAndDeltaPackage2.3.zip and all the others. You might need to restart NT but things should work after that.

I've not downloaded what you've posted there, but if they are indicators from the GOM family, with most/all of them having that "write" indicator setting (a true/false setting), the principle is that for each unique instrument that you have (it can be on multiple charts), you set that value to 'true' within only one of the indicators. That will then produce you a file that has the name of the instrument and date, with a DAT extension. This file contains all the bid/ask information that is coming in via your L2 data, which saves it, so that when you view any chart of that instrument, it reads the information within the DAT file and, and any GOM indicator will pull from that file and thus show you historical data/chart plots with whatever that indicator is supposed to display. By default, those *.DAT files go into your \MyDocuments folder.

 

This implies you have to leave your PC on and connected to your datafeed, which allows the GOM indicators to collect the data and write it to the file.

 

So in brief, set the write value to 'true', leave it for a few minutes, and you will be able to view that same instrument on either the same chart or another chart, and, for example use GomVolumeLadder to show buys and sells on a 1min, 3min, 5min, or whatever timeframe chart you would like. BTW, that same indicator has different display modes, ie., the other main one being hitting the space bar (to toggle), and, you will see delta values: (a blue bar on the left of your price bar, and the right will show by how many cars the buyers or sellers 'won' that level.)

I would not recommend clicking/starting the executable within this RAR: previous editions have been replacement DLLs, which is all that's shown to be necessary to replace. Plus, the size of the executable is highly unusual. Nor is it considered proper to provide 'patches' this way. Quite often, these are tricks to install viruses onto your machine, which then propogate into who-knows-what (by way of starting to run all sorts of things, installers, etc via your \temp folders, among many other covert techniques.) Be warned. (And, since pretty nobody here needs v16 over the v7 that many might be using, I don't know why you would want to break your system, and potentially introduce viruses.)

I'm not looking to threadcr@p, but man exclusively each and every one of those indicators are utterly useless garbage. I can think of dozens of competely free (and similarly useless) than what this guy is peddling. Although it's not mathematically measureable, there are BMT free indicators that are at least 50x better that the crud this guy is peddling, each block at $20/per month. And I absolutely guarantee you he knows it, but heck, few will turn down a potential revenue stream from the lemming world. He even has some lame strategy for $20 per month. Would he be selling it, for any amount, if it was worth anything? Unreal, and, essentially all bordering on criminal, yet unproveable.

 

The guy has examples of commodities like gold, coffee and many others, displaying weekly charts lol! Who the hell amongst us indo members can afford to hold any potential drawdown from a premature GC entry, 'waiting' for some stoopid-@ss indicator to catch up and change angles? And how many of us around here have the kind of dough and risk levels that these silly indicators demand be tolerated, trading off weekly charts. Unbelievable.

 

I know it's Friday and all, and you can flame me if you want, but please please please don't waste your valuable time on utter crud like this. Ask any trader with some verifiable experience and scruples, and he/she will concur.

 

Peace and happy weekend to all.

@Bill, exactly yes, to each point. The broker doesn't do the license check, and, well, when NT launches on your PC, it recieves the 'green light' by way of the emulator.

Sry @thaomoua, I think I referred to it by the wrong name in my text. I just double checked what was in the uploaded RAR, and the actual name is of the indi is the one called anaFibsFromPriorSessionV38.cs (there's a few versions of the indi, and they are pretty much identical)

 

And note that for that indi and the other ana* indis, it is very important to change the "Session # for RTH" field. Some of them also have a "Settlement/Close" field where you can choose from "CalcFromIntradayData" or "DailyBars" - the 1st selection is usually best, as the "DailyBars" I think uses bars from a daily chart (which need to be loaded in your historical data) and, depending on datafeed, may for ES only be during the RTH hours of 9:30 to 4 EST. Thus, use CalcFromIntradayData and you will be safe. But, you do have to have the right template hours in your DATASERIES selection, because it is those opening and closing hours that are used, and, various instruments have various opening hours; if you use the wrong one, the indicators can poll the wrong times on your chart, and highs, lows, closes, etc can be wrong.

@traderforlife Yep, it does. Assuming you have their's already installed, just replace the 'educated' files from the RAR and change/use the 'right' license key. Then, (making sure port 80 is free on your PC) launch v5.01 of emu, click START, then launch NT7 and you will have fully enabled 'chart trading capable' NT7.

 

Keep the other licencse key and the original NT7 files, in case you need to go back for some reason.

@flipper26. Yes the proper session template is required, but that is usually just a selection from the drop-down under Data Series. Since this is CL, this is the one I use; I can't recall if it was included in NT7 or if I created it. (I think I created it). It basically just defines the formal opening and closing times of the instrument. There are some other indicators from others that, if you want certain features to work, you have to define the RTH and ETH separately, or, define the 1st 30min of a instrument to get the opening range to display properly.

 

The DIV markings are pulled directly from the GOM data. Thus, all the right GOM indicators need to be installed, and the DAT files that are written one per day, one per instrument, need to be available; these files are created as realtime data comes in. Thus, the computer needs to be on during the times you want data, ie., 5 days a week, 24hrs a day (although you might not care about the Asia, or even London data). I think if you just install the indicator without any of the other GOM stuff, you should see the DIV signals pop up as the realtime data comes in. But, if you change your chart timeframe or add/remove other indicators, the DIV markings will disappear because there is no GOM data saved to the *.DAT files. Hope that makes sense.

 

http://i.imgur.com/uyKdZlH.png

I wanted to add on to some great input by Jane (TraderBeauty) regarding the indicator in this thread, and get a

bit more into her reference to GOM. For the uninitiated, GOM is a set of indicators for NT which will capture

and store (for later recall) the buy and sell data that accompanies every tick, which is normally discarded by

NT. This allows one to identify are sellers or buyers more aggressive, and in addition to capturing this and

allowing indicator authors to manipulate the data and write indicators that draw on the data, it allows for

things like order flow footprint charts of any timeframe or type to be displayed.

 

I've just given the PVDivergenceSpotter indi a spin here and it seems OK and helpful. It's important to

recognize that it builds it's divergence signals based on MACD (the default) and has others such as stochs, RSI,

MFI, etc. The problem with these is that they are all lagging indicators, based exclusively on trends. Thus,

they have little to do with realtime analysis, because they are plotting and assessing values relative to where

price has been, and within the timeframe of the current chart. Sure, once price has moved away from where it is,

the plotting will catch up, but that is just be default, because price got to where it is. In other words, they

don't show what is causing price to move, or why.

 

That's where the capture of bid and offer data allows assumptions to be made on whether buyers or sellers are

more aggressive. In the chart, the already stored GOM data shows us via DIV markings above or below a candle if

buyers or sellers are causing the price to move.

 

I have chosen 8 minutes as a sort of 'cherry pick' that shows reasonable success of PVDivergenceSpotter catching

trend changes, as do the DIV signals. One of the settings within that indicator (GOMDeltaDivergence) is that you

can specify what factor of discrepancy you want to trigger a signal. To avoid excessive signals, I have chosen 8

as the value. It's important to note that the Asia and Europe sessions tend to have less volume for almost all

instruments, and thus what is needed to move the market or instrument during these sessions tend to be less,

hence there are not as many DIV signals during this sessions. This can of course be changed by decreasing and

tweaking this value.

 

The DIV signals can be set to appear while the candle is being draw, or after the candle closes. Of the other

onscreen indicators in this sample, the GomDeltaMomentum also shows is the buying or selling continuing, or

ceasing of one, and the other starting. An 8 minute chart isn't necessarily the best example for clarifying if

one is continuing and the opposite start - a lower timeframe chart like a 3 min is more helpful for this and is

ideally another chart you are displaying and monitoring.

 

(It's also important to mention that the captured GOM data allows one to build volume footprint charts, and see

the actual buying and selling within each bar [of whatever timeframe one chooses] - this chart is an extremely

helpful chart to show how aggressive and with what lot size market participants are entering the market. An

example of how that chart would look is this: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/tb9pdvs/GOMIladder.png )

 

Here is a professional charting application's version of essentially the same (bid/ask based delta divergence)

indicator, with a 6min video explaining what is looked for and what is happenning within this indicator:

http://support.marketdelta.com/entries/114191-delta-divergence-indicator

 

Notice the NoD and NoS (No Demand, No Supply) signal placements. These too tend to work fairly well in chart

timeframes such as 7,8,10,17, 25 min, etc. It's VSA based and strictly uses volume variables. There's a whole

bunch of enhancements that a fine programmer 'educated into the original indicator, which I won't get into here.

It is the Better Pro Am X indicator.

 

Notice the blue dashed line, the daily developing VWAP. It is key to the vast majority of instruments, and

especially to CL. If you follow price and how it interacts with the VWAP - especially by the time the NY session

comes around, there is nice consistentcy there, that at minimum, provides for scalp trades.

 

And then there is how price interacts with floor pivots, support, resistance, yesterday's VWAP/open/close,

yesterday's high/low. What is NOT shown on this chart is what the indicator anaFibsFromPriorDay would draw: this

is a fibbing of the previous day's price, shown 'today', and then how price reacts at those levels. On the

provided chart, it is the italicized levels with the fib numbers that show. Once you have it on your chart and

scroll back through the days, that indicator will redraw the fibs to show you where price stopped. CL is very

obedient to these levels, especially 23% and 78%, and then once today's price is outside of yesterday's range,

+/- 127% 161% 200% and 261% are all very very important levels that price will usually respond to. Try it.

I won't go into further excruciating detail here, because the biggest value is in 1) how all the above 'signals'

can coincide to give trades and 2) if you're interested in learning, following the price action in the chart and

seeing what level stops price and allows for trades. IMO it is fascinating and amazing how many opportunities

there are to take trades based on this.

 

I have tried to include all the indis and a template that should bring them all together. Note that depending on

your geography, some of the indicators need you to defined which session is your RTH session. Also, if you do

not have the GOM indicators installed you will not get any DIV signals, nor GomDeltaMomentum bars; you can let

the indicator run and collect realtime data as it comes into your PC, but if you are not writing the data (WRITE

DATA is the indicator setting within GomDeltaMomentum) you will not have any historical GOM data saved, when

historical chart data is pulled to display. Should you want this to work 1) GOM has to be properly installed

(found elsewhere on these threads) and 2) your PC needs to be running and connected to the datafeed to capture

the realtime bid/ask data.

 

http://www.sendspace.c0m/file/eshhcs

 

http://i.imgur.com/Olrq3Lu.png

When one opens an account with Amp (and other brokers) who offer the 'free' - and fully legal - version of NT7, it does not have the ability to place trades from charts (or use strategies and some other less used items.)

 

It seems this indicator gives that chart trading ability. Normally, the Ninja folks want you to pay $60/month for the full version of NT (which has chart trader).

 

I didn't know Amp had an official office or site catering to Russia. It's unusual that this indicator shows up on their official site, as, it would seem it will take away significant NT7 revenue, since many many traders will not upgrade to the $60/month full NT cost.

 

The benefit of using this AND the official free version of NT is that you would have the latest version, not have to run an emu, potentially avoid some odd problems, and, have the ability to trade new instruments as they are brought online (something that requires the latest NT versions, which usually aren't 'educated'.)

I think it'll be tough for you to get an answer here.

 

In troubleshooting it, I assume the transaction posts within the MBTrading platform (or wherever your trades are officially logged by MB). What if instead of displaying a renko chart, if you switch it to a minute timeframe, and initiate and complete a trade there, would it behave the same way? Could it have something to do with trading within the spread? Also, looks like you are trading spot forex - assuming you have access to 6E or CFDs, do those resolve accurately?

 

If none of that helps you figure it out, you could ask either at the NT support forums or whatever support MBT has - I'm pretty sure they should help even a customer testing their demo feed.

While I'm not commenting on the indicator that seems to "stop" you from trading after losing $x amount of money (you really shouldn't be trading live anyway, if you can't control this, because you're far too emotional and clearly lacking trading discipline) but the page also allows for connecting to his "real" account and replicating his results.

 

The screenshot records start off rather nicely on the page, but stop as of May 23, which is when things likely went bad, and quite badly. He wants people to sign up to his system, for which there is a fee. Yet, once you start with the recommended $30K, within 4 months, you're down to $19.5K. And that doesn't include his $375 monthly charge. Oh, and the screenshot of the utopian trades from this insurance/mortgage-agent-turned-trader are clearly on a Sim101 account.

 

Amazing what 1) people will throw up on the web and attempt to charge others $$$ for and 2) what poor results they can deliver, 3 months in a row, clearly indicating they cannot trade.

 

For the record, here's the performance. Thankfully, it appears there is no more trading in September - any subscribers must have realized that they could probably lose this amount of money on their own, without the help of an 'expert full time trader' And before you think these are long term trades, the web page records them as an average of 53 minutes in length. Amazing.

 

Oh, and here's the performance report (in Chrome, right click, select 'Open image in new tab'):

http://i.imgur.com/NrNiuLC.png

Hello,

 

Can anyone shed light on this system - www [dot] @cetrades [dot] c0m

@ - a

I keep getting their emails touting frequent 10 point profits on ES.

Is this practical?? Does anyone here have experience with it?

Any input is greatly appreciated!

Their whole site is full of fluff, absolutely zero specifics on what is so magical about their 'Ace' system. In brief, everything they offer is a crock of sh!te IMHO. And then, you can confirm this by their request of a 'course' that they 'say' is worth $4795 for $2995, or the lesser cousin for a super-duper discount of $1895. And, no sign of what you get - videos, PDFs, no track records of success --- this is deceptive marketing towards the naive. And then to add insult to those who know what they are reading on their pages, they actually have a paypal link to take your $2995? I mean seriously, who is stoopid enough to do this?

 

I don't get why people (by that I mean aspiring, struggling traders) keep looking for someone who can invent fire, when it's already been done: there are dozens of decent course videos found on indo already, there are many hundreds of decent books on how to trade market profile or some other theoretical but once learned successful method. And the graphics and fancy wording of a web page can't make up for the lack of facts on what they offer.

 

And, if you're getting emails from them, that means they've purchased bucket/campaign lists of email addresses, to whom they hope to peddle and suck in buyers to their 'services.' Does that sound like something a reputable, successful, self-standing business would do?

 

I'm surprised they don't offer ginsu knives with this course - check their wording under the 'diamond' package - "Yes only $1800 and you are upgraded to unlimited Ace signals and ongoing training."

 

Assuming they collect 3-5 of these guppy buyers per year, that's an incredible income boost to this central rural Ontario operation. But the bottom line is, if you've got even only $5K trading capital and - as the self-touting market expert/trader you make yourself out to be on your web page - and you can't trade that up into an amount many times more than that over the span of a few months, then he shouldn't be offering courses in this, or can't trade with any record of success. I assure you real traders are not wasting their time peddling this type of monkey cr@p, but are instead applying their knowledge to multiplying their money many times over. Period.

 

If you're looking for trading rooms, start by eliminating anyone who does not have a verifiable track record. That also usually will mean eliminating anyone who is not a current member - with a paid seat at the CME group. Why? They have a history, they have a location, they have a track record - they're don't own/rent the seat and space to lose $$$ or suck in newbies. I am not selling anything, but when I checked out a few trading rooms that met this criteria, eminiexchange and Anthony was uber professional: called out trades in a formal way, documented, and explained what was going on. Plus he's been at it for 25 years, and didn't just set up shop out of Wasaga Beach Towne TV shop. Heck the daily free content on Anthony's site is worth more than most of the cr@p people charge for. One other extremely respectable operation that comes to mind is Mr Top Step, although I don't know to what extent they do trade calls from their room.

 

Remember, don't try to go ferret out guys who are telling you they have invented fire - they are the snake oil salesmen; you want to find and stick to the guys who have refined and modernized fire, and are using it to produce wonderful things for them, and by extension for you.

Wow, nice catch @thaomoua. FWIW, I've found similar stuff on my system - my ISP actually alerted me to one of my PCs being a Botnet Drone. We all know a commercial software provider would never place anything into temp folder, Do you know what it's trying to upload? You might be able to to see what it's transferring or accessing via procmon.exe. Don't want to point any fingers, but it sounds like an 'add-on' as a result of the crack.

 

I don't use OFA as it's too complicated to run alongside NT7, and to me is nothing but glorified volume footprint charts, that tries to simplify the market, a la someone trying to trade with arrows from an indicator: and, the market is anything but simple.