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Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

I had to change a few things to make the indi compatible with a EA; after adding the Flag Latch option. So this is version Saw v1-5.

Give this version a shot and see if you like it..

http://depositfiles.com/files/dd4qtx7n6

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Hi guys,

 

 

I also don't understand why people only give the ex4 while there are crackers here. This is also a free system from Abdul, why can't you just give the mq4? Are you trying to sell Abdul system?

 

Hi William

Every thing I have done here is being posted as mq4 code..

I have a simple Indicator template that I plug in a particular system specifications and then see what happens.. But this particular project has added several different options that has made the template even better..

For making indicators this is a very good template to start from.. Just replace the saw specific stuff with whatever variables you wish to test.. Download the lastest I just posted (Saw v1-4) and see what you think..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

OK Heres a new version saw 1-4

Added the feature to latch or un-latch the Buy/Sell flag in the current (0) bar.. When latched the flag will stay set to whatever it is until the next trend change.. When set to false the flag will come and go as the data changes tick by tick..

http://depositfiles.com/files/a4ahpflf2

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Hi, I think William is spot on when he said that we should not count ticks, and since as far as I understand, 50club indicator is based on counting ticks. I think we have found what has been generating the problem. and now we know what should be fixed

Im not counting any ticks.. You said you didnt want a tick window..

The only thing you dont seem to like about my indi is that I latch the Buy/Sell flag.. once its on it stays on until the next change of trend.. I already said I would fix that as soon as we get live data feed again..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

I like club50 indicator better. But I think time window is not working. Can u check it club50?

Yes I will as soon as we get live data again.. If you looking at past (closed) bars you have to remember that individual tick data is no longer available. If you start up mt4 say today when there is no data stream yet when the indicator paints the bast bars it can only access the opening tick or the closing tick.. So I am not doing any tick calculations on bars that are in the past.. This is true of all indicators.. They can only get two ticks worth of data on a closed bar (opening or closing)..

But yes as soon as live data is up again I will be looking.. But I got the time window feature working an hour before data went down on friday and by watching the debug log I could see that it was working..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

I am not a programmer, but if I think the answer to our discussion here may lie in the "each tick mode" function (or whatever) available in MT4.

 

When using the each tick mode, an EA would take the trade at the close of a bar if the conditions are met. I believe that the crosses that happen and reverse while a bar is active will not be relevant and only if the condition is met at the close of the bar will an EA open a trade in the very next bar, (that if the previous bar satisfies the trading conditions).

 

I know I am not too clear and maybe I am entirely wrong, but I have a feeling that our answer lies in the above discussion.

 

If you observe all bars with the arrow and accept only the ones which would remain true at the close of that bar, many of the "fake" bars will be eliminated. Anp perhaps an EA with "each tick mode" set to true will not trade these "fake" bars.

 

TT

The way that my indi is working right now is tick by tick.. Just the way the data is received from the broker.. You dont seem to understand that when the bar period time resets (close of a bar) all that you see is the Last tick that was received in the current 15 minutes or whatever period time you are using.. Once a Period time is reset the bar that was just being created only shows you the first tick of the bar (opening), the highest and the lowest the price range went during the bar period time, and the last tick (closing). Any closed bar only has 2 tick points available to you (first and last) no matter how many ticks were actually received during that bars live time.. Statup my indi and put it in debug mode and after say 1 or 2 bars have passed goto the log file the indi makes and look at how many ticks have arrived during each bar.. Debug mode will show you everyting that is happening..

Everything happens in the current bar.. As soon a new bar opens from the period reset taking place the next incoming tick becomes the opening and it starts forming the bar.. And each new tick continues forming the bar until the period time resets again.. And the last tick received becomes the closure.. The data stream NEVER stops.. Only the charting program groups the incoming ticks into nice little bars for ease of presentation... If you didnt have the bar presentation, the chart would look just like the Market Window on MedaTrader.. Or a hearthbeat machine in the hospital, just a constant stream of data..

Now what your suggesting is that the trader waits till the closing of the bar to determine if its time to place trade or not (remember the closing of a bar is only the LAST tick received during the period time) .. If you are on a 15 minute chart that means that you are only making a trading decision once every 15 minutes and only on the calculation of ONE tick every 15 minutes..

When you set up a simple Moving Average indicator and give it a length 20 calculated on the close then the indicator will sit and process the current live bar tick by tick.. Now thats bar 0 of the 20 you said for length, BUT when the indicator processes the other 19 bars it can only see the LAST tick in each bar. Thus the setting of calculate on bar closure.. The current bar may have a few ticks in it or it may have hundreds in it like it does during us trade time.. So you end up with an indicator that moves around during the live bar but should never change on the past bars because they have closed and again the last tick received became the close price. When the Indi has NOT been made right the past bars will change and they call that re-painting.. As good example of re-painting is the Center of Gravity (COG) indi.. You dont even have to run that in the simulator to see how it makes the PAST Invalid..

So enough of that.. Looking only at bar closures will again ONLY show you the last tick received during the bars formation and thats it.. If your on a 15 min chart that gives you 4 trading oppurtinuties in an hour.. You can do that yourself with a one dollar egg timer from walmart..

On my next version I will have the option of latching/not latching the Buy/Sell flag and that will make more sense.. But to test that I need to wait till sunday when live time starts back up.. When I first did the indicator Thursday I had the Buy/Sell unlatched, but that was to only test the logic of the calculations.. I have added a bunch of options now and the latchin/un latchin is a little harder now and I need live data to test with..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

the reason why I am asking to make this indicator to pause every 14 minutes is to avoid printing those fake crossings.

Lets do the pausing strategy, next week the Market should either prove me to be either right OR wrong.

So what your telling me is that during an hour of live trading you only want to sample the data 4 times and only for a minute on each of the 4 windows.. Sorry; doesnt make ANY sense to me at all.. If thats all you wanted then just launch Metatrader every 15 minutes, for 1 minute and then turn it off...

You dont understand the data stream.. Tick Marks arrive whenever the trades are taking place with the broker you are using.. THere is no rhythm or reason to when data arrives.. Its kinda like a single lane one way street.. Cars (tick marks) come one at a time.. During a 15 minute period you may have lots of cars.. And some of those cars may have a big load which causes price action to change.. You may also have only a few cars come during a 15 minute period, but no different some of those cars may have a big load and cause price action change.. You seem to thank bar closing is what causes price action but it has nothing to do with it... Now I can make the indicator not latch the buy/close arrow.. Maybe I should do that and it would give you a better idea how the data stream works.. When this stuff all started back in the old days guys used to have to sit around and monitor a ticker tape machine. The ticket tape is no different than what we have today.. Reading the tape is still one tick at a time.. All Metatrader, accuchart, or whatever charting program you want to use does is compress the tape into 5, 10, 15 minute bars for ease of presentation.. The charting programs DO NOT give you Tick by Tick presentations except for the little Market Watch window.. Now there are several new MT4 indicators out there that do present the data stream in a tick by tick view.. There are several other forums that cover that aspect..

So I guess about all I can do for now is fix the current indi to have the option of latching/not latching the buy/sell flag.. I'm out for the rest of the day but I will put that option in the next version..

Oh and by the way You Mentioned FAKE Crossings.. Those arnt fake they really happened or the Buy/Sell flag would not have been set..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

OK heres another version of the Indicator.. SAW V1.3

Added the feature for a TimeWindow. I added the Trigger time window function to the current indi.. If you enable this function that means when the triggers become valid that all the triggers would have to have occured within a certain time window.

I also cleaned up a few other things.. This indi can be used for a lot of things.. You could remove the sections pertaining to this SAW system and put in you own..

http://depositfiles.com/files/izmuqpnez

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

 

 

So perhaps making the indicator function 1 minute every 14 minutes starting from every 15 minutes candle close (Then update it self based on CURRENT price ONLY). Would be the best solution.

 

Try that, you will that I am correct

So all you are really wanting is a validation that if the trigger is hit sometime during the curent bar that when the bar ends the trigger is still valid; is that correct??

I really dont see what waiting for the end of bar is all about. If i'm on the 15 min chart and the third tick presents me a valid trigger I would have to wait 14 something minutes before I could act on it

Arnt you really looking for a window of opportunity type function that waits to put the buy/sell flag up only after the individual tick signals have been valid for X number of ticks.. Lets say tick number 15 gives me valid signal, then tick number 16 doesnt.. Yes the current indi would put up the buy/sell flag.. Now if we add a window of opportunity where we need say 10 vaild ticks before putting up the buy/sell flag.. That would be more like it..

You got to remember, every thing is in time (tick mark) and price action.. Thats it... Everything happens on the current bar.. Bar closing and bar opening really have not much to do with it except to show where the first and last tick was when the bar period time reset.. Would you rather have X number of valid ticks or wait 14 something minutes before acting on a trigger... Something for you to think about..

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

He dont reply yet but who know the source, i think u can find on the google...

http://www.google.co.id/search?hl=id&q=INVESTIVA+SUPER+EXPERT+ADVISOR&btnG=Telusuri&meta=

 

By the way i have found some source code maybe for this EA..

Come on everyone master here...gotta some work to do...

Cause i dont have nothing offer to this mathematician freaks code of MT4!!! I hate mathematics in High School..he..he..

Pardon me!!

 

#property indicator_chart_window

This is an indicator.. NOT an EA.. Maybe this code is part of the package, but it aint the EA...

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

Have you looked at the statement.. It get lots upto 1000.. The brokers I know have max lots at 100.. Not for sure which brokers they are using... They are willing to place a 900 lot trade with 30 pip stop loss and 5 pip take profit.. one trade go bad like that and are you are broke... You wouldnt be able to stop it quick enough..

Looks also like they are placing order and taking profit on most trades within one minute.. Pretty much every broker has a trade window of 90 seconds minimum.. Sure like to know what broker they are using.. I have to question the mtlive stat page.. But who knows it might be real...

Re: Forex Magic Machine

I got an email today that they released an updated version.. Probably to fix all those 130 trade errors.. Anybody seen the new version yet.. They are still claiming 100% profits.. But they fail to mention the huge drawdowns can and do happen.. On my demo I ran this week

http://fai03.mt4stats.com/

you can see that I had $150 in total profit, but had $96 in drawdown when I turned the Eur/Chf pair off.. You know the only thing that matters is Equity.. I started the test with $3000.. And the ea made $149 for the week (5%).. I guess thats still pretty go for just a $100 laptop setting in the corner... I get a lot of cheap used laptops on eBay and do testing with those..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

do u mean 1.1 and 1.2?

of course 1.1 and 1.2 are same... bcos he just modify newbar function..added version creating object..

 

I mean no diff between 1.0 and 1.2 :evil:

Yea.. I had a problem where it wasnt putting the bar close clock in the right location.. Only was a problem if you ran the old indi and the new indi on the same chart.. Had to change the clock object name.. But were all good now..

well real time just ended.. Time to go the lake.. be back Sunday for more fun..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

I guess checking the ADX as being last helps filter.. My old indi just put up an arrow on basically noise, whereas the new 1-2 indi did not.. TOO bad we only have an hour left in real time.. Sure wish forex ran 24/7 I could do a lot of good things on sat/sun..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

OOPS sorry the version I just put out had a typo error in the new bar routine..

Delete ver 1-1 that I sent earlier..

Heres version SAW v1-2

http://slil.ru/27520931

And TrueTrader.. I havnt changed anything reguarding arrow size.. But you can change it youself by going to the indi properties/colors..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Hi 50 Club

 

Please make the Arrows only show up when the ADX cross last.

 

Ok I made a change.. Now the arrows are presented only if the ADX cross takes place after the other two triggers.. I didnt try this in the backtest, I am not for sure how the backtester deals with the server time issue.. So no guarantees if the backtester can do anything with this new version. I did not add the TimeWindow feature so this indicator puts up arrows whenever the conditions are met reguardless of the distance between the triggers.. The only thing this indi does different from the last version is to verify the ADX cross happens after the other 2 triggers have been met..

http://slil.ru/27520577

Re: TradinG_SysteM

This indi had real bad repainting issues.. Sometimes you cant even tell what its doing..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Here are two versions of SAW System for MT4 platform:

 

SAW_Original (three indicators)

SAW_Simple (one indicator with alert)

 

optimized settings for EURUSDM15 & USDCHFM15. Avoid Asian session and 45min before and after news.

 

http://slil.ru/27517912

 

Enjoy! :peace:

Hey there.. What is in the Saw4MT4.ex4 file.. I cant do a crc check on the file.. I get file overrun errors.. This usually means there is an open bracket somewhere or a missing return(0) at the end of a module..

can you post the mq4 code and I can take a look..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Yes will do,

 

But first we must back test, and forward test, and see if the EA is profitable, because if its not, then will ask to call it off. This EA must be profitable Before adding the fourth rule.

 

 

we are all waiting for YOU to test it since YOU know what the results should be..

 

Isnt the forth rule a simple test to to see if the ADX Main indicator is above 20 or below 40 or something like that???

 

I wont do any more work on the indicator until you give the go ahead..

 

Let us know..

 

Yes, what I will do is open FXAccu chart, then open the Metatrader with your indicator, then see how things are working. I wont give you the Go till I test it for three trading days or so, I need to make sure that no one would end up wasting his time.

 

I am Optimistic, and hope all of you are as well.

The indi I whipped up last night is very crude at best.. I have a generic indi that I can plug in system specific triggers and get an idea what the result might be.. Last night I plugged in your system and got the first three rules done before bed time.. The indi still needs a time frame window on the triggers and the forth rule (whatever that is) to be added..

I also have a generic EA that triggers off the indi.. I havent touched the EA since there are already several guys working for you on the EA..

Anyway fire up the EA's these guys have made or test the simple inid I made..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

Yes will do,

 

But first we must back test, and forward test, and see if the EA is profitable, because if its not, then will ask to call it off. This EA must be profitable Before adding the fourth rule.

we are all waiting for YOU to test it since YOU know what the results should be..

Isnt the forth rule a simple test to to see if the ADX Main indicator is above 20 or below 40 or something like that???

I wont do any more work on the indicator until you give the go ahead..

Let us know..

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

I made an indicator for this last night.. The indi has 4 lines. THe bottom line is red/green depending on if ADX is red/green. THe 2nd line is red/green depending on if MOM is above/below yellow line. The 3rd line is red/green depending on if MACD is above/below yellow line. The top/4th line is up/down depending of if the other lines are all red/green. This is version 1 of the indi.. I still have to add the fourth qualifier and put in the time window feature.. I will do that later today.. You will note that I use a feature to save a log file to hard drive. If you turn debug on you can save operations tick by tick.. Hope this helps a little for now..

http://slil.ru/27516832

Re: Auto Cash Generator Ultimate

This one crashes on load.. Might be a bad file.. Anyone else having trouble...

Re: Forex Magic Machine

well of course for the ordersend function to compatible with the new ecn type brokers the ordersend should have TP and SL set to 0.. then right after the ordersend you should do an ordermodify..

This is one of the FIRST things I look at when scanning any ea code.. I also see how they do the 3, 4, 5 digit stuff.. Most dont do it right...

And this guy has lotsize fixed at 100,000 units which is not true for all currency pairs depending on full/micro/mini.. There are so many cut and paste kids out there it is fun watching the stuff thats gets put out there... you can see the same bad code get used over and over and over..........

Re: My Amazing Manual Saw System!

hi all...

I have added some features...

Just a quick look here..

You are getting your indicator values from the bar that has already closed and from the current bar.. I just re-read the authors pdf file and no where does he mention looking at the past bar performance.. You need to only look at bar 0 and wait for the triggers to qualify.. Than place the order when the next bar opens..

"Entry is Always at the open of the next 15 minutes Candle Which opens right

AFTER All three indicators cross. This means even if all three cross, we don’t open

a Buy/Sell position till the current Candle closes and the next Candle opens."

So first you need to set a BuyOnOpen or a SellOnOpen flag that gets set/not set on each tick.. And then a routine that checks for new bar and executes whichever flag is set.... And the author mentions that there needs to be a time window between when the first trigger hits and the last trigger hits.. If the triggers arnt hit within a time range then everything resets and waits for new triggers.. So you need a routine that sets each of the 3 triggers and then a seperate routine that checks to see if the time window has expired for each trigger.. If all triggers are hit within the time window then set the BuyOnOpen or the SellOnOpen flag.. Then wait for the closure of current bar before actually placing order...

Hope that helps..

Re: Forex Magic Machine

http://www.theforexmagicmachine.com/cualong000.html

ran this in backtester and got lost of error 130 invalid stops..

you would think the guy that created this would have least run in backtester...

JUNK...