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[raock95]

16 minutes ago, Ninja_On_The_Roof said:

No, I dont. Sorry. 

Too new. Too fresh. Give it time.

By the way, what makes you have an itch for this one?

Out of over 50 of them already posted by various members and educators, you couldn't find at least 3 profitable?

If so, to me, it isnt because of the indicators.

Ninza indies fall into a known phenomenon category. When you see a new one, you get an itch for it. You want it badly. It never stops. 

I am Order flow trader and Thats why i don't use other stuff

[iamhktr]

On 2/11/2026 at 4:18 PM, Ninja_On_The_Roof said:

They key is to know which ones to allow all to work together without causing ones to stop.

I explained everything in previous posts and the exact steps, so far, as I am still adding day by day.

Some of them already came imbeddes with the Renko bars in them.

If you didnt follow the steps, you add some other stuff and most importantly, you click YES or NO wrong or in reverse, that is on you.

Then, you might have conflicts. 

some of the first links dont work

[jetstrade]

28 minutes ago, iamhktr said:

some of the first links dont work

Yeah I am not sure you are going to find one resource that works for all unless you get the combination 100% correct.  I found the 2 or 3 that I really like and have stuck with them.  I find 95% of the Ninza are just the same thing with different colors.  If you look at the picture that Ninja_On_the_roof sent you can see almost all the indicators are doing the same thing.    

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

5 hours ago, raock95 said:

I am Order flow trader and Thats why i don't use other stuff

I personally think it isnt a good idea to use Ninza orderflow stuff. 🤗

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

1 hour ago, jetstrade said:

Yeah I am not sure you are going to find one resource that works for all unless you get the combination 100% correct.  I found the 2 or 3 that I really like and have stuck with them.  I find 95% of the Ninza are just the same thing with different colors.  If you look at the picture that Ninja_On_the_roof sent you can see almost all the indicators are doing the same thing.    

Yes. I have mentioned that before. They are all just the same. Same color. Same craps.

Unless they have pretty good traders who know the market well and coding, these Ninza dudes keep popping out new craps day in and day out.

 

[⭐ rcarlos1947]

@Ninja_On_The_Roof you have put a lot of work into getting us an arsenal of varied approaches to achieve success. I can't help but believe that amongst the mountain of coal, there has to be a diamond in the rough. We just need the right tools to evaluate one by one, maybe two that will shine. 

Thank you again for your great effort.

Edited 23 hours ago by rcarlos1947

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

If it was that easy trading, using Ninza indies, just like every single videos they put up, we would all be rich.

Trading involves more than just taking the buy sell signals from these Ninza indicators.

Looks effortless and easy enough...Yet, reality aint so.

 

[Kirua]

19 minutes ago, Ninja_On_The_Roof said:

If it was that easy trading, using Ninza indies, just like every single videos they put up, we would all be rich.

Trading involves more than just taking the buy sell signals from these Ninza indicators.

Looks effortless and easy enough...Yet, reality aint so.

 

the most difficult behind these indies. it's to find a combo, and try to make the chart clean, because every indicator have signal, and try to tweak all the setting to find the most accurate signal is impossible or you have 3-4 signal every 4 bar from 3 indicator 

[RamAli]

4 hours ago, Ninja_On_The_Roof said:

I personally think it isnt a good idea to use Ninza orderflow stuff. 🤗

Which of the Ninja indicators has actually made you consistently profitable? I’d really appreciate your insight on which one helped you the most and why.

[Traderbeauty]

Just my 2 cents lol

If you think that you can run all or part of the indicators and make money then you have a huge mistake.

These are just tools to give you enough input so at the end all you do is either go long or short- that simple- but not.

its like trying to drive your set of pliers or set of screwdrivers that just help you repair your car.

If there is one or few sets of these indicators or bots  you should not just backrest the results and say- oh it made money in jan but lost money in sept etc.

you need to test it on a trending day and then on a choppy sideways day. if you dont do that then you will lose money for sure.

If you think trading is easy and just using a set of colored indicators you are mistaken.

There are no shortcuts or easy ways.

if a certain bot cost 10k and you get it for free it does not mean you will make money- it just means that you were smart enough not to waste it lol.

If there is a bot or a strategy that really makes money- then think- why would they sell it ? they will use it to make their first billion or sell it to a big fund for a fortune.

If you want to be successful then you need to use LEADING indicators and there are very few of these- so my advice to you-

Learn and get amazingly good at price action and fibs then use the indicators just to confirm what you think should happen then you always or almost always find yourself in the right direction of the market.

Maybe 3 cents lol

Take care and a HUGE thanks to Ninja- on -the - roof  just be careful there hahaha

Traderbeauty-Jane

 

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

Well said @Traderbeauty!🤗

[⭐ ajeet]

The Truth No One Tells You

I have tried all methods of analysis. From technical analysis to fundamental analysis, from Elliott Wave to Wyckoff, from volume profile to harmonics, from complex indicators to pure price action. I want to be honest: none of these will make you rich.

The Harsh Reality of the Market

Understand this: where there is money, there is no honesty. Where there is money, there is no clear and definite method. If someone really knew the golden method of making money, they would never teach it to me or you. Why would they?

Why do we humans get fooled? Why are we constantly searching for a miraculous method? Why do we think this course, this book, this indicator, this strategy is what will change our lives?

Because our mind seeks a simple solution. We want to believe there is a magic formula. But the truth is, in financial markets, certainty does not exist.

The Illusion of Advanced Tools

You might think professional platforms like Sierra Chart, NinjaTrader, Bookmap, or Quantower are the keys to success. Yes, these are good tools, but not for us.

Why is that?

Imagine being handed a precise surgical knife and told to perform open-heart surgery. The knife is excellent, sharp, and sterile. But you know nothing about medicine. Because no one has explained the logic behind it to you.

The same thing happens in trading. They give us tools and say this is Bookmap, this is Heatmap, this is Orderflow. But they don’t explain the main logic behind them. And even if we know, it still doesn’t guarantee success.

A Real-World Example

Making money from trading is like searching for gold in an endless desert. Everyone sells you different maps. One says go east, another says west, one says dig deep, another says search shallow.

But the truth is: most of these maps lead to mirages. A few people find gold? Yes. But most people just lose their energy, time, and money in the desert.

The Only Thing That Really Matters

So what remains? If strategies don’t work, if tools aren’t enough, if analyses are incomplete, then what matters?

Risk management and capital management.

This is the only thing that keeps you alive in this market. Not complex strategies, not magical indicators, not expensive tools.

Professional trading means:
- Knowing how much of your capital you risk on each trade
- Knowing how to build a diversified portfolio so one loss doesn’t destroy you
- Knowing when to stay out of the market
- Knowing how to manage your emotions

[RamAli]

 

Another Truth Most People Miss

Many traders go through that exact phase. Trying everything. Realizing nothing is magic. Accepting that risk management is essential.

But there are a few more uncomfortable truths that rarely get discussed.

Edge Is Real, But Rare and Earned

It’s not true that no method works. It’s true that most people don’t execute any method long enough, clean enough, or consistently enough to see its statistical edge.

An edge in trading is not a secret formula. It is a small, repeatable probability advantage executed thousands of times with discipline.

The problem is not that methods don’t work.
The problem is that humans don’t stick to them.

Most Traders Never Collect Real Data

People say “this strategy doesn’t work.”
But how many trades did they take?
30? 50? 100?

Professional traders think in sample sizes of 300, 500, 1000 trades. They track:

• Win rate
• Average win
• Average loss
• Expectancy
• Maximum drawdown
• Time in drawdown

Without data, everything feels random. With data, randomness becomes structured probability.

Psychology Is Not Just Emotion Control

People talk about controlling fear and greed. That’s surface level.

Real psychological skill in trading means:

• Acting when bored
• Not acting when excited
• Accepting long periods of stagnation
• Continuing after a drawdown without changing your system
• Trusting math over feelings

Emotional control is not about being calm. It is about being consistent.

Position Sizing Creates or Destroys You

Two traders can trade the exact same strategy.

One risks 1 percent per trade.
The other risks 5 percent.

After 10 losing trades:

The first is uncomfortable.
The second is destroyed.

Compounding works both ways.

Time in the Market Beats Tool Switching

Most traders restart every 3 months.
New system.
New indicator.
New mentor.

Meanwhile, professionals refine one model for years.

The edge is not in complexity.
It is in deep familiarity.

Liquidity and Timing Matter More Than People Think

Not all hours are equal.
Not all days are equal.
Not all environments reward the same behavior.

Trending markets require different behavior than mean reverting markets. High volatility requires different sizing than low volatility.

Adaptation is survival.

Capital Is Ammunition

You mentioned risk management keeps you alive. That’s true.

But capital is not only protection. It is opportunity.

The trader who preserves capital long enough eventually meets favorable conditions. The trader who blows up early never reaches that phase.

Survival is step one. Longevity is step two. Growth is step three.

The Real Difference

There is no golden method.
But there are golden habits.

• Consistency
• Data tracking
• Patience
• Discipline
• Position sizing
• Adaptability
• Long term thinking

Markets are uncertain.
But behavior does not have to be.

That is where the real edge lives.

Edited 5 hours ago by RamAli

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

17 hours ago, Kirua said:

the most difficult behind these indies. it's to find a combo, and try to make the chart clean, because every indicator have signal, and try to tweak all the setting to find the most accurate signal is impossible or you have 3-4 signal every 4 bar from 3 indicator 

Yeah.

My bet, by just using 2 moving averages for the cross over signal, or just simply the super trend, you probably get better results and higher probability.

But then again, who knows. One man's trash is another man's gold.🤪

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

14 hours ago, RamAli said:

Which of the Ninja indicators has actually made you consistently profitable? I’d really appreciate your insight on which one helped you the most and why.

Ohh, I dont use them at all.

Sorry to burst your bubbles. 

I still stick to the old way effective way, yet simple and easy enough for my every trading day.

The infamous ORB! 

I find it effective. Not always of course, as everything else. Gotta have a crappy day. But over all, the winning rate is quite alright for me. 

Just a few hundred bucks per day is all that I need (or we need). 5 days per week, it adds up pretty decently.

Using 5 min time frame, I mark the high and low for this opening 5 min candle. Then switch to 1 min time frame and go from there.

Most new traders, I have been there, done that. Immediately enter a trade when they see a candle breaking either the high or the low of the candle. 

Dont do that. You wanna be patient and watch closely what price is going to do at these levels, how it reacts. You do wanna see price retraces or pulls back into these levels, then look for a confirmation candle which tells you that is the direction price is gonna go or continue.

So yes, the pro in entering a trade Immediately when candle breaks level, high or low is that, sometimes, it just doesnt pulls back but soon right after it breaks, it just keeps popping. Then of course, you miss the train.

But hey, be disciplined. Stick to the plan and follow through. If you miss then you miss. You didnt loose any money. Still good and cool. Much better than entering too early, only to see a huge candle showing up right after in opposite of your intended direction.

Another way I also use a whole lot is, at the start of a trading day, I mark the high and low of premarket. Then when it opens, I mark the high and low of a 5 min candle. 

Watch how price is now reacting to the levels. Use Fib retracement, seeing when price breaks and retraces to it, then that is my entry.

This helps to minimize the wider gap for stoploss, making it smaller. And, target is usually aimed somewhere up there for previous high or resistance and vice versa, somewhere down there at previous low or support area. 

Good to also measure the range between where you enter and where you place your target. Better take at least half of that range and be done. No need to go for a home run. Unless, you use multiple contracts, then let 1 run. But yeah, you can easily book at least half of the range. Price usually runs enough. Plenty of time, it gets very close to your range target, misses it by a tick or two then baaam, immediately reverses with a huge candle out of nowhere. Now, you gave everything back, plus possibly also in red.

Kicking yourself. Punching your PC. Cursing at your cats or dogs.😝

Take reasonable profits. Especially if you are trading with prop firms that have intraday draw down. This rule alone, would kill you.

 

[jetstrade]

1 hour ago, Ninja_On_The_Roof said:

Ohh, I dont use them at all.

Sorry to burst your bubbles. 

I still stick to the old way effective way, yet simple and easy enough for my every trading day.

The infamous ORB! 

I find it effective. Not always of course, as everything else. Gotta have a crappy day. But over all, the winning rate is quite alright for me. 

Just a few hundred bucks per day is all that I need (or we need). 5 days per week, it adds up pretty decently.

Using 5 min time frame, I mark the high and low for this opening 5 min candle. Then switch to 1 min time frame and go from there.

Most new traders, I have been there, done that. Immediately enter a trade when they see a candle breaking either the high or the low of the candle. 

Dont do that. You wanna be patient and watch closely what price is going to do at these levels, how it reacts. You do wanna see price retraces or pulls back into these levels, then look for a confirmation candle which tells you that is the direction price is gonna go or continue.

So yes, the pro in entering a trade Immediately when candle breaks level, high or low is that, sometimes, it just doesnt pulls back but soon right after it breaks, it just keeps popping. Then of course, you miss the train.

But hey, be disciplined. Stick to the plan and follow through. If you miss then you miss. You didnt loose any money. Still good and cool. Much better than entering too early, only to see a huge candle showing up right after in opposite of your intended direction.

Another way I also use a whole lot is, at the start of a trading day, I mark the high and low of premarket. Then when it opens, I mark the high and low of a 5 min candle. 

Watch how price is now reacting to the levels. Use Fib retracement, seeing when price breaks and retraces to it, then that is my entry.

This helps to minimize the wider gap for stoploss, making it smaller. And, target is usually aimed somewhere up there for previous high or resistance and vice versa, somewhere down there at previous low or support area. 

Good to also measure the range between where you enter and where you place your target. Better take at least half of that range and be done. No need to go for a home run. Unless, you use multiple contracts, then let 1 run. But yeah, you can easily book at least half of the range. Price usually runs enough. Plenty of time, it gets very close to your range target, misses it by a tick or two then baaam, immediately reverses with a huge candle out of nowhere. Now, you gave everything back, plus possibly also in red.

Kicking yourself. Punching your PC. Cursing at your cats or dogs.😝

Take reasonable profits. Especially if you are trading with prop firms that have intraday draw down. This rule alone, would kill you.

 

I always used the 30 minute ORB and then waited for a  reteest.  I then would draw my fibs based on that 30 minute ORB.  also would look at the middle of the ORB as my long vs short day etc.  That is how I was taught at the begging and have been doing it for the last few years and has worked great.  There are a few strategies  out there but I find doing it manually yields better results each time.  This is for my main cash account not my prop firms.  I always lock in profit so say I am up $100 I will set my SL at that $100 and then trail it that is hard to do with prop firms due to the draw down where you really have to snipe until you have passed and have payable account.  This way of trading works out great once your SL is locked in then profit is profit.

With that being said I like to check out all the new indicators and keep up on everything for my own learning and I use them for the prop firms because of the crazy drawdowns.  I like to look for the quick moves with the profirms and I also like the higher amounts it gives me a little bit of room to trade.  

[AllIn]

I think the biggest mistake is people treating prop firm accounts like cash accounts, and visa versa. 
 

The most successful prop firm traders I know spend thousands per month on fees, but double or triple that investment. Take FSP, he’ll line up accounts one after another taking the same move, such as buying a pullback. Maybe the first one or two blows but the next few have caught the bottom of it, with size. Not copying trading them at all. Nobody would trade a cash account this way, but it’s effective with props.
 

prop firms are a game, you have to learn how to play the game with the capital you have to invest in them. Risk management between a prop account and cash accounts can and should be different IMHO. Milk them and dump into those profits into a personal account where you can work on a real trading system such as ORB, momentum, IB etc with ris management being priority (the only thing you can control in the market is your own risk)

 

Better yet, start using your personal accounts (or live prop accounts if you like to give firms 10% or more) to hedge your prop firm evals and SIM funded accounts! 
 

 

[Ninja_On_The_Roof]

Thought this might be valuable to folks who use VWAP Flux.

In case you have not seen them.

https://www.imghippo.com/i/1771087494478

Just click on those photos below for the different settings for different timeframes.

Thanks.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Ninja_On_The_Roof