⭐ SignalTime Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) There are so many talents and knowledge in this forum. I would like someone can teach / talk / point to the learn the art of de virtualization of Agile dot net Edited February 4 by SignalTime Gagirl, alodante and ⭐ laser1000it 3
Gagirl Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 I would LOVE to learn more about cracking. I know a little, but not enough to do it all. ⭐ SignalTime 1
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 old de4dot does not work because it uses hard coded signatures for the vm handlers. i am not understanding that part yet ⭐ laser1000it 1
⭐ laser1000it Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) Some time ago, in this forum, the user Admin explained how to clean NT7 DLLs (back then, NT8 didn't exist yet). After some study, I managed to learn how to do it, but without his help, I would never have succeeded on my own. Wanting to return the favor, I cleaned many DLLs myself. Today, however, NT8 DLL protections are much more serious. I also sought help, but I couldn't find anyone willing to point me in the right direction. Unfortunately, as I'm no longer young and tire easily from being at the PC, I didn't continue trying to figure out how to solve the problem. It's a bit like going mushroom hunting. There are many books and videos that explain how to do it, but when you go into the woods, you can't find a single one. And those who do find them never reveal their secret. update: I think it's important to point out that many of the indicators for NT are junk. So, there's no point wasting time on reversal engineering to clean them up. A demonstrably superior method is to use the free tier of the TradingView platform and leverage artificial intelligence for script development; the result will be a significantly more robust and professional tool. I encourage you to test this approach and see the difference in quality. Don't forget that AI can create you an indicator or strategy for NT8 too Edited February 4 by laser1000it wertamido, ⭐ SignalTime, LoneBladeRGC and 3 others 6
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 for NT7 de4dot and dnspy are good enough. but NT8 is a beast. Nevertheless it uses mostly junk / control flow obfuscation and same code virtualization techniques. code encryption is another big thing in nt8. Agile dot net is customized for NT8. anyone knows what was the oldest version of it failed with the de4dot. ⭐ laser1000it 1
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 8 hours ago, laser1000it said: Some time ago, in this forum, the user Admin explained how to clean NT7 DLLs (back then, NT8 didn't exist yet). After some study, I managed to learn how to do it, but without his help, I would never have succeeded on my own. Wanting to return the favor, I cleaned many DLLs myself. Today, however, NT8 DLL protections are much more serious. I also sought help, but I couldn't find anyone willing to point me in the right direction. Unfortunately, as I'm no longer young and tire easily from being at the PC, I didn't continue trying to figure out how to solve the problem. It's a bit like going mushroom hunting. There are many books and videos that explain how to do it, but when you go into the woods, you can't find a single one. And those who do find them never reveal their secret. update: I think it's important to point out that many of the indicators for NT are junk. So, there's no point wasting time on reversal engineering to clean them up. A demonstrably superior method is to use the free tier of the TradingView platform and leverage artificial intelligence for script development; the result will be a significantly more robust and professional tool. I encourage you to test this approach and see the difference in quality. Don't forget that AI can create you an indicator or strategy for NT8 too It is a great idea. I am interested in cracking NT8. you have experimented with llms. what is your suggestion and how to go about it?
misalto Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 i do believe is a waste of time and energy not productive if you need some indicator you think is worth your energy and time buy it from educators couple of dollars ... focus on trading and making money not indicators this time of ai we are dealing with far superior stuff that we saw on nt7 and nt8 indicators are going the same path .. algos are so misleading designed by God knows who i find daytrading so difficult this days just one day and you blow up// you want to buy theres clubingbuy ,john,Rohit ,Val , Nadjib// more than enough you can even quote for best price they are very serious educators and provide what you buy.. You will not catch up with experiented educators as obfuscation is getting tougher and unbreakable for me i advice focus on trading or creating with claude your own indictors based on your trading experience is my humble opinion i dont want to offend or discourage anybody.... ⭐ SignalTime, Jack and ⭐ option trader 3
roddizon1978 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 I saw in You tube they are changing dll file using https://hexed.it . Try doing it ⭐ SignalTime 1
V1s Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) Misc resources, the first one seems to have workable tools might be worth a group buy https://www.codestrikers.org/ https://discord.com/invite/nPJ9zTCMYr https://www.exploitpack.com/ https://discord.com/invite/eXVAQag https://www.rtn-team.cc/ https://discord.com/invite/HgxsfmWcEm https://openhacker.org/start/here https://discord.gg/ep2uKUG https://debugxp.com/ https://discord.gg/73tkPGv https://github.com/0xZ0F/Z0FCourse_ReverseEngineering https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/portal.php https://github.com/baseult https://dc540.org/xxx/category/meetings/ https://discord.com/invite/3dNZVERa https://discord.com/invite/kPD74xZGu6 https://discord.com/invite/hackthebox https://discadia.com/?sort=top&q=reverse+engineering Edited February 5 by V1s Luke SteelWolf, wertamido, ⭐ SignalTime and 2 others 4 1
⭐ laser1000it Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) 11 hours ago, SignalTime said: It is a great idea. I am interested in cracking NT8. you have experimented with llms. what is your suggestion and how to go about it? At now I am stop but I would prefer to understand how to unprotect trading tool as (BeeTrader, Quantower, Overcharts, MUlticharts...) rather than dlls Edited February 5 by laser1000it ⭐ SignalTime 1
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 12 hours ago, misalto said: i do believe is a waste of time and energy not productive if you need some indicator you think is worth your energy and time buy it from educators couple of dollars ... focus on trading and making money not indicators this time of ai we are dealing with far superior stuff that we saw on nt7 and nt8 indicators are going the same path .. algos are so misleading designed by God knows who i find daytrading so difficult this days just one day and you blow up// you want to buy theres clubingbuy ,john,Rohit ,Val , Nadjib// more than enough you can even quote for best price they are very serious educators and provide what you buy.. You will not catch up with experiented educators as obfuscation is getting tougher and unbreakable for me i advice focus on trading or creating with claude your own indictors based on your trading experience is my humble opinion i dont want to offend or discourage anybody.... I blowup my account too. Its an itch i want to scratch. I would really like to crack at least an old 8.0 NT. and lift the code and load it in dnspy. then i can scratch off one item from my bucket list. V1s 1
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 10 hours ago, roddizon1978 said: I saw in You tube they are changing dll file using https://hexed.it . Try doing it can you share the yt link
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 10 hours ago, V1s said: Misc resources, the first one seems to have workable tools might be worth a group buy https://www.codestrikers.org/ https://discord.com/invite/nPJ9zTCMYr https://www.exploitpack.com/ https://discord.com/invite/eXVAQag https://www.rtn-team.cc/ https://discord.com/invite/HgxsfmWcEm https://openhacker.org/start/here https://discord.gg/ep2uKUG https://debugxp.com/ https://discord.gg/73tkPGv https://github.com/0xZ0F/Z0FCourse_ReverseEngineering https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/portal.php https://github.com/baseult https://dc540.org/xxx/category/meetings/ https://discord.com/invite/3dNZVERa https://discord.com/invite/kPD74xZGu6 https://discord.com/invite/hackthebox https://discadia.com/?sort=top&q=reverse+engineering Thank you. Trove of information wertamido and ⭐ mangrad 2
roddizon1978 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 5 hours ago, SignalTime said: can you share the yt link ⭐ SignalTime 1
Ninja_On_The_Roof Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 17 hours ago, misalto said: i do believe is a waste of time and energy not productive if you need some indicator you think is worth your energy and time buy it from educators couple of dollars ... focus on trading and making money not indicators this time of ai we are dealing with far superior stuff that we saw on nt7 and nt8 indicators are going the same path .. algos are so misleading designed by God knows who i find daytrading so difficult this days just one day and you blow up// you want to buy theres clubingbuy ,john,Rohit ,Val , Nadjib// more than enough you can even quote for best price they are very serious educators and provide what you buy.. You will not catch up with experiented educators as obfuscation is getting tougher and unbreakable for me i advice focus on trading or creating with claude your own indictors based on your trading experience is my humble opinion i dont want to offend or discourage anybody.... Totally agreed. If it is for a hobby to pass time by when you have nothing else to pluck your brains out, then by all means, go for it. ⭐ SignalTime 1
⭐ laser1000it Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, roddizon1978 said: TelerikJustDecompile it is out of order or rather it is no longer available
wertamido Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Definitely I would love to learn more about cracking
⭐ laser1000it Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 19 hours ago, misalto said: i do believe is a waste of time and energy not productive if you need some indicator you think is worth your energy and time buy it from educators couple of dollars ... focus on trading and making money not indicators this time of ai we are dealing with far superior stuff that we saw on nt7 and nt8 indicators are going the same path .. algos are so misleading designed by God knows who i find daytrading so difficult this days just one day and you blow up// you want to buy theres clubingbuy ,john,Rohit ,Val , Nadjib// more than enough you can even quote for best price they are very serious educators and provide what you buy.. You will not catch up with experiented educators as obfuscation is getting tougher and unbreakable for me i advice focus on trading or creating with claude your own indictors based on your trading experience is my humble opinion i dont want to offend or discourage anybody.... I'm afraid that buying a hit of crack is risky: if the police were to conduct a search, your name would be linked to the operation because they would trace both the financial transaction and your HWID. It hasn't happened so far, I understand, but if it does, the consequences will be severe. My lawyer friend has dealt with similar cases, and the fines to pay is big
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 2 hours ago, laser1000it said: TelerikJustDecompile it is out of order or rather it is no longer available dnspy, ilspy are better
⭐ SignalTime Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 3 hours ago, roddizon1978 said: i will look into it
techfo Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 I want to learn too. Many of the educators here get them educated so quickly. They're like wizards. Need someone to show the pathway. : )
⭐ laser1000it Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 (edited) 46 minutes ago, techfo said: I want to learn too. Many of the educators here get them educated so quickly. They're like wizards. Need someone to show the pathway. : ) In this forum, relating to reversal engineering you won't get any help from experts Edited February 8 by laser1000it techfo 1
misalto Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 of course is their extra income to pay for propfirms
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