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TDU Footprint & Footprint Trader 2.0.0.12 beta 3


rcarlos1947

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Excellent question. Yes they are pretty much the same, except some identify more market conditions than others, and display them on the chart for discretionary (manual) execution. TDU (as far as I know), is the only Orderflow trader that directly reads and auto trades the one or several conditions that you feel gives you an edge. Now TDU claims that their OFL Strategy can read any vendor's Orderflow chart, but they don't make easy (I wonder why 😁). Now Mike Valtos (Orderflows.com) sells various indicators that identify predefined conditions and displays Buy/Sell indications, again for manual trading. He also sells one that He calls a toolkit which allow the user to select various combinations of market conditions for you to test and search for the elusive "Holy Grail". Now I am not an OrderFlow trader, but after testing many indicators/BOTS, I firmly believe that Orderflow gives signals that have minimal lag and could possibly provide an edge.  ARC-AI introduced their HFT Algo OrderFlow Disruper, have not had a chance to watch their hour long video. My apologies for the long winded answer.

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@misalto, they all have symbols that display on the chart, but if you look at the indicator in the Data Display Tab, none are displayed. If you double click on any symbol, nothing appears, which means that you may not be able use them in StrategyBuilder or similar algo builders. Although, TDU does permit you to create your own strategies with their TDUAlgoStudioPro. If you have any suggestions, I appreciate your input as I am always in learning mode.

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I think you and I were referencing the earlier versions of TDU Footprint (TDUFootPrint v1.0.0.x) which what you say is true. But later versions like TDUFootPrint v1.0.1.28 and above will display in the Data Display tab and will be available for Strategy Builder and similar programs. Thank you for the clarification. And as I said, I continue to learn.

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A Friend sent me this snapshot of the 2023 version of ARC-AI HFT Algo which looks interesting. The strategy runs and trades on auto. The only issue is that it only has 3 Orderflow signals to trade while I believe the 2024 version or later I believe has 5 signals. If someone has any of the 2024 versions they can provide to our talented Guru's, it could to prove interesting.

 

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I tried that didnt work looses like crazy the problem is sideways times of day for example futures analityca then evolved to L2azimuth orderbook trader nobody i know of has been able to replicate his winnings  im not saying it cant be created is just that orderflow is decieving sometimes algos trap traders for liquidity and sometimes market pushes to your targets like a charm , so what do i mean by this .. is no matter what you build it will always loose because of what i mentioned , so it depends on your profit target too patterns dissapear fairly quick in the volume ladder sometimes 5 ticks profit target  works on (im talking about nq or mnq ) and sometimes 20 ticks is too much it will go 15  ticks and stop you out thats why i mean when support and resistance name it vwap ,MA or whatever is where traders agree to initiate a trade but is just my opinion there might be good volume footprint traders hft algo trader the one that sells warhamer shifted to speed momentum in nq orderbooksweep patterns he once sold orderflow footprint then he dumped it didnt work.

Daytrading is difficult cause is a handfull of needs a trader must have discipline,accepting a loosing day and not going on tilt wich i doubt it ,trade small accepting a 100 dollar a day wining is too little but going to work for 100 dollars is painfull  so many things 

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@misalto, there is much experience in what you've shared, and it is much appreciated. I will add what others with experience have shared, and that is "No algo/bot is designed to set and forget, they must be monitored".

That being said, my friend trades it only the first 3 hours of the trading day and uses 2:1RR (20t-Tgt/10t-SL). Yes He has losing days but He can live with the drawdown. IF price touches his target but does not take him out, He will take what HE can get. He trades by the idea that "Take what the market gives you, not what you expect it to give you."

Thank you again!

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