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[egaalh]

http://tradeempowered.com/constellation-order/

Any idea, any input ,any indicators ?

[tryitagainmf]

http://tradeempowered.com/constellation-order/

Any idea, any input ,any indicators ?

 

egaalh...unless I am not understanding fully what these sellers are "offering" (...is it more than a G@rtley pattern?...I could not take the time to watch the complete infomercial, but I thought I observed them using a G@rtley setup...), you may want to look at what our forum friend @admis provided a few days ago...

 

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/24778-PVG-rtley-Indi?p=336039#post336039

 

Hope that all is well with you, mate!

 

Cheers!

 

Mick

[⭐ shicuco]

 

I must confess I did! Well, most of it. This FX hero is selling a "new, revolutionary" software that identifies harmonic patterns. What makes this software stand out from the rest is that they've "discovered" a new pattern: the cypher pattern, which has turned out to be the most profitable of all. Yeah, right!

 

Nothing new under the sun.

[jaki_koo]

Hi Shicuco,

Constellation is a software package for mt4 and ninja trader by Jason stapleton for identification of harmonics pattern such as gartley and also cypher. Im bumping ...good stuff!

[DimiK]

Why not just use the free ZUP indicator. It finds harmonic patterns.

[newbie0101]

Why not just use the free ZUP indicator. It finds harmonic patterns.

 

Hi DimiK--Thanks for suggestion--could U please provide a link for the ZUP indicator for Ninjatrader?

Thanks in advance

[thaomoua]

I think neoharmonic also finds & draws when it find those patterns. I observed and most of the time PA does reach or shoots through those levels on trending days.

[fughe]

There are a few things that make the Constellation different from the rest. One is that it does not use a zigzag, fractal, or other standard swing mechanism. Also, unlike any other pattern scanner on the market, the Constellation correctly identifies X points. Another is that this is not a "find all possible patterns" type of indicator. It only finds patterns according to Jason's specific rules, that he has been trading profitably for several years. Basically, it is not just another indicator, it is a trading system.

 

I know because I created it.

Edited October 26, 2014 by fughe

[tradershare]

I know because I created it.

 

Could you share it with us?

 

Regards,

[fughe]

This post was edited by TRADERBEAUTY.

fughe--------

 

 

We share everything here- we do not solicit or sell for profit.

Please follow the forum rules and regulations.

 

Traderbeauty-Moderator

 

EDIT: If a person had read the post....they would know I was NOT trying to sell anything. -fughe

Edited October 27, 2014 by fughe

[⭐ stingrayzz]

This post was edited by Traderbeauty-

Stingrayzz- please- dont even bother- remember big elgaza- no sense to ask him if he wont willingly share.thx jane.

 

 

Since you are the seller of it then prove your trading of it is profitable by posting independent third party results. Otherwise the one customer you mentioned will probably be the only customer you have.

Edited October 27, 2014 by Traderbeauty

[fughe]

This post was edited by Traderbeauty-

Stingrayzz- please- dont even bother- remember big elgaza- no sense to ask him if he wont willingly share.thx jane.

 

 

Since you are the seller of it then prove your trading of it is profitable by posting independent third party results. Otherwise the one customer you mentioned will probably be the only customer you have.

 

I am NOT the seller of it. I said I created it. The system is built on my proprietary code. My code is licensed to Trade Empowered for use in their Constellation software. As for trading, I do not currently trade. If I was trading, I would be trading one of my own personal systems, not someone else's system. The Constellation is Jason's personal trading system for harmonic patterns.

 

As for me sharing the system....I program for a living. How am I supposed to pay my bills if I give away all the work I do? Why do people honestly expect people to give away thousands of hours of work? For perspective, literally about 7000 hours of work went into the development and design of the underlying system. Seven Thousand hours. If you want something like this for free, then please.....go do all the research, design, and programming work yourself. It isn't like everyone in the world can't go sit in front of a chart for several thousand hours, taking notes, and understanding the market, so they can do this. Anyone can do it.

 

The problem is, only people like me actually go do the work, and then other people believe they should have free access to it. Because of stuff like this, I will likely never release any of my personal systems to the public.

 

Anyway...as for whether the Constellation system is profitable or not, Jason has been trading this way for several years, profitably. Ask him for proof. It is his trading system, not mine.

[sillykiddo]

I am NOT the seller of it. I said I created it. The system is built on my proprietary code. My code is licensed to Trade Empowered for use in their Constellation software. As for trading, I do not currently trade. If I was trading, I would be trading one of my own personal systems, not someone else's system. The Constellation is Jason's personal trading system for harmonic patterns.

 

As for me sharing the system....I program for a living. How am I supposed to pay my bills if I give away all the work I do? Why do people honestly expect people to give away thousands of hours of work? For perspective, literally about 7000 hours of work went into the development and design of the underlying system. Seven Thousand hours. If you want something like this for free, then please.....go do all the research, design, and programming work yourself. It isn't like everyone in the world can't go sit in front of a chart for several thousand hours, taking notes, and understanding the market, so they can do this. Anyone can do it.

 

The problem is, only people like me actually go do the work, and then other people believe they should have free access to it. Because of stuff like this, I will likely never release any of my personal systems to the public.

 

Anyway...as for whether the Constellation system is profitable or not, Jason has been trading this way for several years, profitably. Ask him for proof. It is his trading system, not mine.

 

I understand the fact that you worked 7000 hrs for this product n such.. there are few reason why this forum exist and why people share here.. first is sharing is caring.. second .. in this industry there are thousands snake oil company pop up every day. 95% of their product dont work and thats why 95% traders are loosing money. I dont see any reason why people should have any faith on any product which is up for sale. And a common question is if this product is so good .. and as you worked 7000 hrs behind it why not the creator of this product start using it and make huge money instead of selling it. Forex is trillion dollar markets if this is that good get money from that trillion dollar market why bother selling? A big red flag right..

 

i can go on and on here and for all these reason this forum exist so are other forums.. I am sorry if u have spend 7000 hrs for this product but majority of this kind of product seller are SCAMMERS.. in the long run..

[sillykiddo]

fughe if you dont want to share what in the world u are spending time here? as you said you make living by programming.. keep doing that.. rather than pointing finger at other people here..

[fughe]

I understand the fact that you worked 7000 hrs for this product n such.. there are few reason why this forum exist and why people share here.. first is sharing is caring.. second .. in this industry there are thousands snake oil company pop up every day. 95% of their product dont work and thats why 95% traders are loosing money. I dont see any reason why people should have any faith on any product which is up for sale. And a common question is if this product is so good .. and as you worked 7000 hrs behind it why not the creator of this product start using it and make huge money instead of selling it. Forex is trillion dollar markets if this is that good get money from that trillion dollar market why bother selling? A big red flag right..

 

i can go on and on here and for all these reason this forum exist so are other forums.. I am sorry if u have spend 7000 hrs for this product but majority of this kind of product seller are SCAMMERS.. in the long run..

 

I happen to agree with you. That is why I thought the people here might, for once, appreciate hearing from someone who isn't selling a system, but was involved in programming it.

 

As I said before, I am not trading it because it is not my system. This system is based on probabilities. I understand why, and the logic is sound. I just don't like gambling. That is why I only trade my own system, which is not a probability based system. With my system, I know...with about a 95% accuracy when the market will turn, within 25 pips, and hit a target that is 50 pips away. I have never had a losing week with it. And it is not uncommon for me to net a 100% gain in a week, with a 1%/trade risk (25 pip stoploss). No grid, no martingale....only single trade, win or lose, no breakeven, no trailing. When I do trade, I trade it on 6 currencies, 24 hours a day, whenever the market is open. So....why would I trade anyone else's system? The real question is, why don't I just trade and do nothing else? Simple....I have to be careful about making too much money too quickly. I don't want to attract attention and make myself a target for the big money players. And it is very stressful. Programming is not stressful. So I program most of the time.

[Traderbeauty]

fughe

whats your purpose here ?

why telling everyone about your wonderful system if your are not going to share it ?

you reminding me of Dear Elgaza who was trading from his cellphone and making tens of thousand profit every single day trading 5-30 contracts es till we all found out what really happened.

Either share your system here with no cost to anyone or stop what you are doing.

Your excuse of being afraid to make too much money is the biggest joke i ever heard- maybe tell it to Bill Gates so he will sell us microsoft really cheap.

I have been working on my method for 14 years spending even more than 7000 hours and yet i explain it to everyone at no charge.

Traderbeauty-Jane

Edited October 27, 2014 by Traderbeauty

[admis]

I happen to agree with you. That is why I thought the people here might, for once, appreciate hearing from someone who isn't selling a system, but was involved in programming it.

 

As I said before, I am not trading it because it is not my system. This system is based on probabilities. I understand why, and the logic is sound. I just don't like gambling. That is why I only trade my own system, which is not a probability based system. With my system, I know...with about a 95% accuracy when the market will turn, within 25 pips, and hit a target that is 50 pips away. I have never had a losing week with it. And it is not uncommon for me to net a 100% gain in a week, with a 1%/trade risk (25 pip stoploss). No grid, no martingale....only single trade, win or lose, no breakeven, no trailing. When I do trade, I trade it on 6 currencies, 24 hours a day, whenever the market is open. So....why would I trade anyone else's system? The real question is, why don't I just trade and do nothing else? Simple....I have to be careful about making too much money too quickly. I don't want to attract attention and make myself a target for the big money players. And it is very stressful. Programming is not stressful. So I program most of the time.

 

Surely now you're expecting applause ...

[tradernate]

@fughe, I thought I heard some of the dumbest excuses...now I am going to have put to you near the top of that list...bravo Yes, Admis, applause, is needed. Now give him some oxygen, and out of that crack den.

 

"why don't I just trade and do nothing else? Simple....I have to be careful about making too much money too quickly. I don't want to attract attention and make myself a target for the big money players."

[sillykiddo]

fughe

can u do one thing then? open up a thread in journal section post your trades .. i dont know about others i will follow your trades make millions.. i dont have any problem big money people chasing after me. i know how to handle them...

[fughe]

fughe

can u do one thing then? open up a thread in journal section post your trades .. i dont know about others i will follow your trades make millions.. i dont have any problem big money people chasing after me. i know how to handle them...

 

The system is not a secret. Do the work, and discover it for yourself. There is no such thing as a secret trading system. Everyone trades from the same charts. The difference is between the people who are willing to do the work, and those who are not.

 

As for whether or not anyone believes me, I could care less. I find it laughable that anyone even challenges me on it. I already said I am not trying to sell anything, and I could care less if anyone believes me. I posted here because I saw someone asked a question about a system that I have insider information about.

 

What I see is a bunch of people looking for a free ride, not people who are seriously interested in finding out about a system they are unfamiliar with.

 

If anyone is interested in knowing about the system, I can explain quit a lot about it. If you are looking for a hand out, here you go...

http://www.fx-mt4.info/view-review/zup-v135-harmonic-patterns-indicator

http://forum.mql4.com/61417

 

If you want more, there is a great deal of free source code for harmonic pattern indicators. If it makes you feel better, this is where I started looking into harmonic patterns several years ago. The ZUP and other similar indicators will get you started in understanding how to make whatever you want. Then you won't have to be asking for a handout all the time, but instead you can take action and make the good things happen.

[fughe]

fughe

whats your purpose here ?

 

Read the first post which states, "Any idea, any input ,any indicators ?"

 

Then read what I have written..... The system is based on code I wrote, so I know virtually everything about the system. I am here to answer any questions people may have about it. I posted a brief explanation earlier, but it was removed because someone thought I lied and was the seller of the system.

 

What I am NOT here to do:

I am not here to mislead people about whether or not it works, as I don't trade it, but I have heard from at least one person who bought it, and they told me they are making money with it so far.

I am not here to backstab the company I licensed my code to by giving away the code for their system.

I am not here to talk about my personal trading systems.

[tradernate]

@fughe...what a joke...95% and you do not want to trade it....What I like about people like you is you look in the mirror and still lie to yourself....please go, now. I see that you have nothing to offer but consending attitude and remarks. This does no one any good. Like I said, do us ALL a favor and leave. I am sure anything you say and do does not originate from your mouth. We are here to see how people scam massive amounts of money from traders, and it looks like you are part of the great act....take your system..and go.

 

Wait, here is another one from you "Anyway...as for whether the Constellation system is profitable or not, Jason has been trading this way for several years, profitably. Ask him for proof. It is his trading system, not mine. "

 

You're right I am going to believe you and Jason...right he's going to tell us the truth. Not going to happen, now take your sad lil system and go bother and drum up business somewhere else, this is not the place. Keep it up and Jane will love to ban you.

 

Wait another one from you-"Then you won't have to be asking for a handout all the time, but instead you can take action and make the good things happen."

We have no idea who you are, let alone know if you would tell the truth. You are the problem of the industry, all words, no truth, no Verifiable truth, but its 95%, if I trade it too much the head hunters will came after me. Is this a SNL skit, or a comedy central standup that you do. As you can see I am sick of pretenders that offer garbage in place facts and proof. Then tell us that we just want a hand out, no WE WANT THE TRUTH ...and you don't have it. Once again...Please remove the big red clown nose, I cannot stop from laughing. NOW GO, you insulted us enough- Nate

 

The system is not a secret. Do the work, and discover it for yourself. There is no such thing as a secret trading system. Everyone trades from the same charts. The difference is between the people who are willing to do the work, and those who are not.

 

As for whether or not anyone believes me, I could care less. I find it laughable that anyone even challenges me on it. I already said I am not trying to sell anything, and I could care less if anyone believes me. I posted here because I saw someone asked a question about a system that I have insider information about.

 

What I see is a bunch of people looking for a free ride, not people who are seriously interested in finding out about a system they are unfamiliar with.

 

If anyone is interested in knowing about the system, I can explain quit a lot about it. If you are looking for a hand out, here you go...

http://www.fx-mt4.info/view-review/zup-v135-harmonic-patterns-indicator

http://forum.mql4.com/61417

 

If you want more, there is a great deal of free source code for harmonic pattern indicators. If it makes you feel better, this is where I started looking into harmonic patterns several years ago. The ZUP and other similar indicators will get you started in understanding how to make whatever you want. Then you won't have to be asking for a handout all the time, but instead you can take action and make the good things happen.

Edited October 28, 2014 by tradernate

[fughe]

@fughe...what a joke...95% and you do not want to trade it....What I like about people like you is you look in the mirror and still lie to yourself....please go, now. I see that you have nothing to offer but consending attitude and remarks. This does no one any good. Like I said, do us ALL a favor and leave. I am sure anything you say and do does not originate from your mouth. We are here to see how people scam massive amounts of money from traders, and it looks like you are part of the great act....take your system..and go.

 

Wait, here is another one from you "Anyway...as for whether the Constellation system is profitable or not, Jason has been trading this way for several years, profitably. Ask him for proof. It is his trading system, not mine. "

 

You're right I am going to believe you and Jason...right he's going to tell us the truth. Not going to happen, now take your sad lil system and go bother and drum up business somewhere else, this is not the place. Keep it up and Jane will love to ban you.

 

Wait another one from you-"Then you won't have to be asking for a handout all the time, but instead you can take action and make the good things happen."

We have no idea who you are, let alone know if you would tell the truth. You are the problem of the industry, all words, no truth, no Verifiable truth, but its 95%, if I trade it too much the head hunters will came after me. Is this a SNL skit, or a comedy central standup that you do. As you can see I am sick of pretenders that offer garbage in place facts and proof. Then tell us that we just want a hand out, no WE WANT THE TRUTH ...and you don't have it. Once again...Please remove the big red clown nose, I cannot stop from laughing. NOW GO, you insulted us enough- Nate

 

This is what I am talking about. You aren't even asking any questions about the Constellation. All you keep doing is trying to change the focus of the subject by directing people's attention to extraneous statements. What I have said about my personal trading systems is irrelevant in this thread.....but you keep bringing the focus back to it. Why are YOU here? Are you here just to complain about something? I have said several times, I am here to answer questions people may want to know about the Constellation. You keep calling into question my veracity, yet you have not asked me a single relevant question about the Constellation.

 

Can I verify it works? No. I already said I don't trade this system. I said this from the beginning. I have heard from a few different people that have it. I only know of one who is trading it live. They told me it was profitable thus far. The others? They have said they are not profitable because they keep missing trades because they are not taking it seriously enough and not paying attention to the charts when they are trading. From what I have heard, from the people using the Constellation, and from Jason himself is, the biggest killer with this system is lack of discipline. If you don't treat it like a business, then you fail. My personal experience with trading backs this up.

 

I posit that, instead of complaining, and shifting the focus to other topics not related to this thread.....ask me questions about the Constellation. Heck, even ask me questions about pattern trading in general. At least that is a related topic.

[sillykiddo]

fughe

First of all you are a programmer. Which sounds to me you are a logical person. And what you are posting here is illogical in terms of this forum and its purpose. You should be in ninjatrader official forum vendor section. And wait for any half brain person buy this product and ask you the technical question then you can answere. This forum is for different purpose mate. And any logical person would understand this with little bit of brain. it is none of your business what people want here if its free stuff or shared stuff or any kind of stuff what so ever. People like you has no purpose in this forum.

As simple as that...

If you cannot share you dont belong here... Get this in your programming head .. sooner the better..

[tradernate]

OK...fughe, since we cannot trial the system, and there is only 1 video, that really is a marketing rag,

I have few questions.

1. How do you make money with the system.

1a. How are trades opened and closed, what is the specific criteria-line by line.

1b. Please include detailed charts of entries, exits, longs, and shorts.

2. What is the expected return

3. What is proper risk reward for the system

4. How big of an account is needed for all the above.

5. How can the system and your figures be validated if you have no trials?

Can your words be validated by a seperate third party that has been audited?

Is the trader whom is selling this system provide actual brokerage statements, with redacted account numbers but not the name.

Do you have a $$ back guarantee.

How many Hours/days/weeks/months are training offered inthe purchase price.

Do you have 5 people that are making money with it. IF so, provide names, and have you verified that they are actually making $$ with it. IF so, how so. The only way to verify is a seperate third party with actual statements. That is my criteria to even waste my time, to learn and trade a new system.

Every question would have to be answered, if not then you are a industry fake, with a fake system and should not be taken serious about trading or even selling a system. Remember you said it only works at 95%? That is the standard you will be judged upon, slick

That is your home work...it is pass or fail. Remember you designed the system...with over 7K hours of work, so this should be easy.

Remember you are a fraud here until you can prove otherwise, that is our standard here-BTW- Welcome TO OUR WORLD, words account for nothing, only 100% visual proof.

Edited October 28, 2014 by tradernate