newbie0101 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) The powerbars that Amruta is talking about are custom bar type provided by KWIKPOP, these are not the same as the HPbars. They are in the package posted in post #86 we need educated. Amruta I posted the link so you can see if they were the ones you were looking for, I guess not I may not have the full indicator package installed. Most all of the vendor posted bars are just a knock -off of Rjays bars or the Unirenko bar.IMO Which by the way have been provided in this forum THANKS to our awesome members!! Just asking Take care ---I thought I will show example of what I speak of %5Bimg%5Dhttp%3A//i62.tinypic.com/zxs7qb.jpg[/img] Edited October 2, 2014 by newbie0101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ timein Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 No disrespect but How do U know? That they are not the same---can U provide screenshots of the difference(would be helpful) Most all of the vendor posted bars are just a knock -off of Rjays bars or the Unirenko bar. Just asking Take care I am not sure if they are different I will try and find out… newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Is that link is educated one? Also I am not very much interested in power bars - I am interested in KPWayne3D indicator which is combinding 3 different frames and ploting the histogram. It is same like Kwikpop 3D box. I think you are asking for kptone indicator. I watched presentation on infinity and guy mentioned its only available on ninjatrader. I have checked my installation which is pre powerbar version and I dont see it there. It monitors different timeframes together such as 150 tick, 500 ticks and 800 ticks for example and then plots above or below the zero line if all conditions meet. ⭐ timein and newbie0101 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ timein Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think you are asking for kptone indicator. I watched presentation on infinity and guy mentioned its only available on ninjatrader. I have checked my installation which is pre powerbar version and I dont see it there. It monitors different timeframes together such as 150 tick, 500 ticks and 800 ticks for example and then plots above or below the zero line if all conditions meet. OK thanks that’s what I thought from what I understand this is some sort of bar type that is different than hpbars or rjays bars or the unirenko bar. I don’t see them listed in mine either. newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amruta Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I am using NinjaTrader and rondonelli you are right - I am looking for the KPTone indicator. By the way - how can I insert an image directly in the thread i.e. same like newbie0101 did in post # 101? Regards newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I am using NinjaTrader and rondonelli you are right - I am looking for the KPTone indicator. By the way - how can I insert an image directly in the thread i.e. same like newbie0101 did in post # 101? Regards http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/23473-(Req)-Jay-Signal-Trend/page27 see post # 27 for instructions by santosh newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I am using NinjaTrader and rondonelli you are right - I am looking for the KPTone indicator. By the way - how can I insert an image directly in the thread i.e. same like newbie0101 did in post # 101? Regards http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/23473-(Req)-Jay-Signal-Trend/page27 see post # 267 for instructions by santosh Edited October 2, 2014 by rondonelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 amruta I have figured out what this kptone indicator is all about and how can you get it. I went to their trading room yesterday for free presentation. (1) It is not named as kptone, its actual name is kp3dboxES (2) Create ES 3350 volume chart and apply above indicator. (3) You can use it on any instrument but it will track ES 3350,7500 volume and 3 minutes (4) kp3dboxNQ indicator works on NQ (5) In the newer version they have this indicator for Tf and CL too see screenshot below http://s30.postimg.org/fbpree829/kptone.jpg' alt='kptone.jpg'> upload gambar[/img] Ganymed, tryitagainmf, tradernate and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradernate Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Hi Rondonelli, could you please upload the template for that chart...would like to see how it looks like on a 15Min, 30Min and 5Min charts. amruta I have figured out what this kptone indicator is all about and how can you get it. I went to their trading room yesterday for free presentation. (1) It is not named as kptone, its actual name is kp3dboxES (2) Create ES 3350 volume chart and apply above indicator. (3) You can use it on any instrument but it will track ES 3350,7500 volume and 3 minutes (4) kp3dboxNQ indicator works on NQ (5) In the newer version they have this indicator for Tf and CL too see screenshot below http://s30.postimg.org/fbpree829/kptone.jpg' alt='kptone.jpg'> upload gambar[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traderbeauty Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 i tried to use the 3d box for es in real time - that was long time ago and as i remember it did not help at all. by the time it responses its too late unless the market is in a long- strong move. instead of that i would rather use 3 charts renko spectrum 2-1 4-1 and 8-2 ---- just apply navi trend and navi bars on all 3 and you can see in a glance exactly what is happening in each of the time frames- much better and more accurate. jane newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amruta Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Hi Rondonelli Thanks for the chart However, KPTone and KP3DBoxES are different indicator in the sence that in KP3DBoxES - the parameters i.e. 3350 vol, 7500 vol and 3 min are fix. There is no option to change these parameters. KP3DBoxES gives only total at the bottom of the box. Similar to KP3DBoxES, the KPTone indicator is also plotting histogram above and below zero line. However it gives more information info at the bottom of the box i.e. volume for each bar, spread and total of the histogram value for the current bar and the previous bar. It also plot a line based on the total of histogram value. Please see the attached image and KPTone indicator is 2nd from the bottom. Edited October 3, 2014 by amruta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I was on their bootcamp training today. Here's a few screenshots of the ES. The dynamic bars look like the RJay Renko Spectrum set to 4-1. There are basically 2 trade setups. For the first setup, you enter on bounces off of the pivots. Go short when the upper pivot line is red, the bar closes below the KPAutostop (cyan line), and KPWanye3D(bottom oscillator) crosses below zero. Go long when the lower pivot line is blue, the bar closes above Autostop, and Wanye3D crosses above zero. Don't take any trades off of the white pivot line. The second setup is a trend continuation trade. You basically enter after a pullback in a trend. The pivot color doesn't matter. After a trend starts wait for 1 or 2 bars to close against the trend followed by the very next bar closing back with trend. Enter with the trend using the KPWayne3D (bottom oscillator) for confirmation. You will see a spike on the KPWayne3D when to enter back with trend. The 3rd chart has the entries marked with the green arrows. 12 trades, 10 winners and 2 losers. They use a target of 4 ticks with a stop 1 tick below/above the pivot. The stop gets pulled in if conditions change. The KPWayne3D is their newest version of the KP3DBoxES. It has adjustable parameters and it's setup for the dynamic bars. This indicator seems to give good and early signals with the renko bars. This one wasn't included in the previously educated indicator pack. http://s13.postimg.org/t4kcl7lqf/2014_10_02_1319.png http://s27.postimg.org/6l2v3eghf/2014_10_02_1318.png http://s8.postimg.org/idl1wt551/2014_10_02_1359.png newbie0101, exp48967, tradernate and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Tradernate Here is the my template https://www.sendspace.com/file/pvbxp4 newbie0101, Ganymed, ⭐ whinny and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amruta Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Brasco, Very nice explanation - you correctly mentioned that the KPWayne3D is the newest version of the KP3DBoxES. This indicator gives early signal to get into trend. I am looking for this indicator for long time. Thanks tradernate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Brasco What are they using to count or predict the range of their current bar. For rjbars there is an indicator rjcurrentbarrange which predicts opening of new bar. it seems to me kpautosotp can also be used as trailing stop. tradernate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes, they have a bar range indicator too. It's part of their new indicator pack. They enter on a stop limit order where the bar would close. The autostop is used to trail also. If a bar closes above or below the autostop in the opposite direction of the trade, they move the stop to get out of the trade. tradernate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganymed Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes, they have a bar range indicator too. It's part of their new indicator pack. They enter on a stop limit order where the bar would close. The autostop is used to trail also. If a bar closes above or below the autostop in the opposite direction of the trade, they move the stop to get out of the trade. is there the new educated Kwik*POP package already available. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 No new version yet, I'm using the previously educated version posted earlier in this thread. Those screenshots were from the presenter. I'm hoping someone can educate the latest version. I'm curious to test out the KPWayne3D indicator on other renko based systems, such as JaySignal. diabouncer and tradernate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Latest kp is posted here by atd. What are the settings for TF and ES being used in trading room and what is the name of the indicator for bar counting http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/25207-Education-Request/page5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 kp powerbars look starnge dont look like in post 112. see screenshot. wayne 3d and bar counter is working fine. http://s28.postimg.org/5y7el9eq5/image.png' alt='image.png'> upload a picture[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro1713006816 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hi I've imported the KPNT30 zip file (modify 9/9/14) i have all the incators and the powerbars in NT7 but i need username and password ??? someone to help me thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hi I've imported the KPNT30 zip file (modify 9/9/14) i have all the incators and the powerbars in NT7 but i need username and password ??? someone to help me thx You dont need password for educated version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro1713006816 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 With the previous version no problem but with the latest one i have this i don't understand why (NT7 compile ok) Rondonelli could you send me your dll file please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro1713006816 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Here is my NT7 image ??? https://www.sendspace.com/file/zmpecf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondonelli Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 coro Please remove any version of kp from your system and exit ninja and read post #64 from this thread http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/25207-Education-Request/page7 coro1713006816 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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