Can we have straight english in titles please??!!!!

[Shaan19]

Whatz with all this fancy designs in the titles?????

 

Do you realize how difficult it makes it for searches???

 

Here...have a look.....

 

V*I*B*Q*U*A*N*T

Bin@ry 0ption M@gnet

Share - $!nt3$! Fx

 

Nothing against these posters. So please dont take it personal. This is just an example. This is just the tip of the iceberg!!!

 

I have come across 4 threads for just ONE indicator/trading system. Know why this happenned???? Cuz the other threads DON'T show up in a search cuz of all the fancy artwork.

 

Make life easy. Stick to plain english in the titles and be as descriptive as possible. Remember that you also need to use the search function. So your title and content should be helpful. You want to do artwork...then go to Deviantart.com. You want to learn, share and make money, then keep it simple.

 

My rant for the day!!! :)

[iwjw]

It's the problem with searching...

in some cases you don't want see your thread come up on google for a reason

[wakjoe]

we dont want the thread that we created to be indexed by search engine :D (as what iwjw said, [f0r s0m3 r3450n5] do u get it?

[Shaan19]

Reality Check pls....

 

Hmmm.....the particular thread might not get indexed. But this site is not ug or super private. Nor is it unknown. Registrations are open and anyone can join up. Including the folks that you want to avoid. ANY search for trading, forex, stocks will show this forum. So the idea of not getting a thread indexed is moot.

 

Also, feel free to check the links on the files uploaded. Every thread will have a re-upload request. Some of these are within a few days of the original upload. So the so-called "for test purpose" programs that get uploaded ARE being CHECKED by the hosters and getting deleted.

 

C'mon Guys, be practical. You want privacy and non-tracebility there are many ways to get it done. Don't give lame excuses. This is not a post on how-to hide your traces or protect the site. There is enough info on how this can be done.

 

Feel free to check out the threads @ BMT or WWI. They are straight-forward. End of the day, it boils down to the site rules first and then individual.

Edited October 21, 2012 by Shaan19
Added BMT/WWI info

[Guest nicebuns]

privacy? on a public forum? You're probably losing all your money as well. Just saying..

[Edward25]

privacy? on a public forum? You're probably losing all your money as well. Just saying..

 

Probably he will but, i think that's not what he means.

[udc]

It seems you don't realize that people are making those threads and everything they post in there of their own (good)will. And they do it as they please. Sure it's a kind of mess, but that's what you always get when you have freedom. On the other hand freedom encourages people and supports their creativity.

 

Now if you try to force them to do and behave as you please, you may as well instead of having this:

V*I*B*Q*U*A*N*T
Bin@ry 0ption M@gnet
Share - $!nt3$! Fx

 

end up having this:

 

(that's right, there is nothing)

 

 

You can see around the Internet what all those regulations, closed registrations, invites, rules and whatnot can do. If it's some torrent type site based mainly on sharing files, that may work just ok in a restricted environment. But if it's a site based on ideas, each and every new layer of restrictions will just drive more and more people away. Why do you think even those very restricted closed sites open themselves time to time to a new people? Because their communities are dying, they are internally exhausted. If you lock people up in one room, no matter how good people and mutual friends they are, after some time they will have nothing more to talk about, everything will get gray, boring and discouraging.

 

You need a constant source of freshness to maintain a healthy community, that's what we have here right now. Do you really want to start limiting it just so that your searches would seemingly have a better hit/miss ratio? Will it really actually help you with that? Maybe the people won't be willing to bend over and submit to your rules, maybe your searches will return the same results as they do now, maybe you will just make everything worse for all those thousands other people who are not that lazy to actually put some effort into finding the information.

[⭐ shicuco]

Yesterday my mediafire account was suspended a few hours after sharing this course:

 

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/12472-%28REQ%29-2S-Sniper-System

 

I was wondering if there is an efficient way of making this threads a bit harder to trace. I've always thought disguising the titles would do the trick as meek13 and others suggest here

 

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/15546-Encrypting-subject-headers-of-new-posts

 

and iwjw and others in this thread. But then Shaan19's opinion also makes sense to me. I wouldn't go as far as thinking that encrypting the titles could be a limiting measure as udc claims. This forum is governed by rules and this could be just another one, a truly important one, if it proves to be effective. If an encrypting standard is set, then everyone could easily make searches in this forum. But then, I'm not sure it's worth it. I'm new to forums, so I don't know how others handle this problem.

 

I find this issue of importance so more opinions are welcome. What are the admins/mods views on this?

 

Thanks

[Shaan19]

UDC...thank you for your post. Got a good laugh from it!!!!

 

Maybe you shud re-read what I have written AGAIN and then read what you have answered!!!

 

1. This IS a public site. No hiding it.

 

2. This site is owned by someone and it has it set of rules. Dont talk about freedom to me. I gave a suggestion...NOT a RULE!!!

 

3. On one hand you agree that the threads are a mess and searches are not opitmal yet on the other hand you say "Don't limit". Make up your mind. Order or systematic organization does NOT equal Chaos. At the same time, having a system in place does not mean a persons FREEDOM has been taken away. Try telling that to your Boss at work tomorrow. Best of Luck!!!

 

4. Freshness in a business and sharing site?? For a title?? Give me a break!!! Try to be "creative" and apply all the "freshness" you want to your trades. It is your money. Odds are you will lose it with your "creativeness" instead of following some rules. Maybe for you, the stock index shud also now be creative and re-FRESH with some exotic titles on a daily basis. And dont give me **** that the posts are "illegal" while the index etc are not. Neither are the posts illegal nor is sharing a link illegal. What you do with that link is the matter that can get you prosecuted. IF they find you.

 

5. As for communities "dying" cuz they super private. That is YOUR opinion. YOUR view. YOUR experience. Which not necesarily is reality. From what I have seen, is that folks on the "outside" literally beg to be let into these private "communities". I belong to a few super private site and literally there are 100's of request everyday for invites or recommendations. If a site is super private, then it is kept so to weed out the bad apples over a period of time and then take in a new lot of members. Leakers and troublemakers are not welcomed at ANY site. How does one know whether a member is a good member or not??? Only TIME shows and tells the Admin/Mods so.

 

6. Lazy??!!! Wow!! Presumptious to the limit!!!! It was a suggestion to improve things for the members out here. Like you stated, which I did too, that threads are a mess. You PRESUME that I did not do my bit of searching or try to keep my responses in the correct thread. Check my posts and you will see that I did so. Presume all you want with your trades and the market but not on any other person. Either way you will be the loser only.

 

Maybe that 2nd box you posted equates to the space between your ears.

[iqofgenius]

To those NEW members to this site I would offer some advice. Kinda like when you join any group. If you do not like the way things are, and have been running for years, simply find another site that meets your criteria. After all, this is an Indonesian site and all of the posts could be made in any one of several Southeast Asian languages. Just my humble opinion.

[udc]

Shaan19, you seem to not understand my point, that is if you try to command people they may just leave. Cui bono? Cui prodest?

 

That's the fact that will not change not a little bit, no matter how much you don't like it. In your whole post all you demonstrated is nothing but a bad attitude and a lot of human s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y you apparently possess. And also something else, see the spoiler. As iqofgenius indicated, you may be better off going back to those "few super private sites" where "you belong", as you claim.

 

[spoiler=freedom]I do not have any boss. I am a programmer, doing it since the mid 80s and have my own business. Judging by the standard of your posts you most probably haven't been even born for a long time yet, back then. Thus you can't remember the cold war and what it was like in half of the Europe. Even if you read and watch all the books and movie documents you won't even start having the idea. You can't imagine what it is like to live in a country you are not allowed to leave (except visiting the other communist countries), a country surrounded by barbed wire fence with countless soldiers with machine guns who shoot anyone trying to get in or out at sight. You can't imagine the feeling when you are totally isolated from the rest of the world, where you can't get any news from the outside except the sick deformed "reality" that is presented to you by the Party (check Orwell's 1984). No western newspapers nor TV, Voice of America and BBC stations were heavily jammed and whoever was caught trying to listening them went straight to jail. Everyone was spying on everyone, if you showed a sign of disapproval you couldn't get any decent job (and not having a job was a criminal offense; that's right, 0% unemployment) and your kids couldn't even get to a decent high school. The communist propaganda was pumped to the kids as young as 6 years old, since they started going to school, and never stopped. They were brainwashed by regular screening of propaganda movies, mostly manufactured by USSR, the big brother. There was no concept of a private business and, except the small things, a private property in general, everything was owned and operated by the state. You couldn't escape, didn't have any say, you just had to submit and do as you were told. And if you didn't, you went to jail where you again was forced (by means of a physical torturing) to do as you were told. Above all that was a collective desperation of all those millions of people trapped in this country-wide prison against their will with no prospect of a change.

 

Actually there was some attempt of a change, back in 1968. They called it "socialism with a human face". And do you know what almost immediately happened? USSR and their daughter-countries sent the army to help "straighten up" the people here. They called it "normalization". It was a peace time, there was no war in the Europe and we were a sovereign country, yet a foreign armies invaded us. A hundred of thousands foreign soldiers, with thousands of tanks. While the whole world was just watching. What do you think the big USA did, the USA that was and still is regularly invading other countries under a false pretence? Did they help us, did they, for once, actually help liberating someone? Of course not, they were too scared of USSR and a possible nuclear conflict. And what do you think people here did? Several people burned themselves to death in protest. Young people just like you, 20 years old, 18 years old. Can you imagine how terrible the people must have felt that they were able to set themselves on fire and rather die than to submit to this tyranny? This communist terror that went on for 20 years by then (since 1948), went on for another more than 20 years, including the unprecedented military occupation, and this all was going on not in some forgotten corner of the world but right in the middle of Europe. Who knows what would have happened if Gorbachev didn't come to power in late 80s in USSR and with his revival attempts actually hugely contributed to the dissolution of the whole eastern block. Look at the North Korea, millions of people there died and dying of malnutrition despite the food aid they are getting from other countries. Those are the consequences of a closed community with zero freedom.

 

It's almost 25 years later since we have back our freedom and democracy as we had before 1948, and before WW II, and what does it look like? It's a mess, the same mess as anywhere in the free world. Over 40 years of communism that's 2 full generations of people. If you all of sudden give people back their freedom and free enterprise, the people who were mostly born already in the tyranny, how do you think they will react? It's as if you took your domesticated animal and put it in the wild. It took quite a long time before people got used to it and started taking care of themselves. It's still a mess but compared to other European countries we are doing relatively fine, nowhere near the economic problems in Greece or Spain. Those countries didn't experience what we did. One of the very few "advantages" of being forced to live in a communism is that we didn't know what the debt is, the traditional lifestyle of living on credit the whole western world, especially USA, practiced. We didn't know what a credit card is, or a mortgage, there was no such thing back then. Unfortunately we are quickly catching up the rest of the world, there is almost as much bankruptcies and foreclosures as anywhere in the world now. But anyway, since we have this experience we would never ever ever give all this mess up in exchange for "order". Never, because we would have had to give up our freedom. That's what the Americans who never actually experienced not having freedom don't understand as they in recent years so easily give up their freedom piece by piece.

 

These totalitarian regimes around all the world killed more people than all wars combined. Experiencing that, and surviving it, gives you an incredible perspective. Now, reading your post and your thoughts gives me a familiar feeling of totalitarianism. If you won't sort out your hierarchy of values you will end up being a sociopath when you grow up.

 

The freedom is what I love about this forum. I am not a trader nor I am trying to be (you would find out why, if you learn what is the average salary for a programmer with almost 30 years of experience, then double it since I am not an employee but a contractor), but I love trying to help people here, they deserve it due to the incredible amount of scams and tricks and disinformation in the retail trading world. If I ever noticed any activity of the forum moderators, it was mostly moving the threads into the better suitable sub-forums, not the censorship or the enslaving attempts. Please don't try to ruin the freedom we have here.

 

[marinko]

this is not a constructive topic .. the original poster needs to go back to where he came from. .. thread needs to be closed.

[Shaan19]

Sigh...no point.

 

Was very simple. It was a suggestion.

 

Take it or leave it.

 

Cui Bono?? Was it EXCLUSIVELY to me?? Nope. It was generalized.

 

As for ******ity, atleast you used the word "apparently"... but understanding of simple statements is beyond your comprehension and the word m.o.r.o.n comes to mind.

 

As for your "suggestion" that I go back to other sites...TQ. But the decision is mine..and THAT is FREEDOM. :P

 

Have fun... I am. No more posts trying to help out here.

 

PS: Did not bother reading your long-winded "spoiler" post. Waste of my time.

[tradernate]

iqofgenius, exactly....we will do it the way we feel, it does help to keep our files on longer if we encrypt the names and titles from 1-2 days to 2-3 weeks, which means less work in the long run. If you do not like it then go start ur own thread, and see how much work it is to upload when you keep getting your files shut down. Wait, better yet, go buy the **** software, then tell us that is does not work, after you have no more $$ to trade.

 

To those NEW members to this site I would offer some advice. Kinda like when you join any group. If you do not like the way things are, and have been running for years, simply find another site that meets your criteria. After all, this is an Indonesian site and all of the posts could be made in any one of several Southeast Asian languages. Just my humble opinion.

[⭐ Kardel Sharpeye]

Whatz with all this fancy designs in the titles?????

 

oh ... wha ??? wha ??? where ????

 

Do you realize how difficult it makes it for searches???

 

its difficult ... yes it is ....

 

Here...have a look.....

 

V*I*B*Q*U*A*N*T

Bin@ry 0ption M@gnet

Share - $!nt3$! Fx

 

Nothing against these posters. So please dont take it personal. This is just an example. This is just the tip of the iceberg!!!

 

it was called DEFENSE MECHANISM :P why ? you don't want any of those posting being read by the original makers right ??? and especially a retired retarded FBI :P

 

I have come across 4 threads for just ONE indicator/trading system. Know why this happenned???? Cuz the other threads DON'T show up in a search cuz of all the fancy artwork.

 

Make life easy. Stick to plain english in the titles and be as descriptive as possible. Remember that you also need to use the search function. So your title and content should be helpful. You want to do artwork...then go to Deviantart.com. You want to learn, share and make money, then keep it simple.

 

My rant for the day!!! :)

 

ahh .. yes life is easy so I suggest u start to BROWSE - by reading each thread in order You get what you want ! instead typing few word through google and then wa la ....(we do not encourage you to get lazy but all the content that you mention above was written here, 1 site ) btw deviant art - what you were saying ... use very very much more "abstract word" ....

[⭐ FFRT]

yes, regular reader / visitor to the forum, do not have big issue, it is only those who search and wish to give few time here can find this method awkward....

[stuart_2009]

hi all

 

im new to this site and just want to introduce my self