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HEY KENEX here it is ! :-bd

 

hxxp://dep0s1tfiles.c0m/en/files/84hniv6i4 

 

and now some info about this book....

 

 

The NEXUS book contains two quite different trading techniques that literally anyone can learn in a few hours and for those who already trade should be able to learn these techniques even quicker. The whole aim of this book is to show and explain as simply as possible to a trader or someone completely new to trading, where precisely to place a trade, with entry price, target price to take profit at and stop loss position in case a mistake is made. Both methods employ simple logic that literally anyone can understand. NEXUS is not a system to predict future market turns, nor does it have anything to do with the Market Matrix, although the techniques in the NEXUS book will help existing Matrix users to enter Matrix points with more clarity and confidence. The techniques in the NEXUS book are pure logical trading techniques that have high winning ratios because of the logic employed in the NEXUS method. The two methods in the NEXUS book are designed for trading on an end-of-day basis so have nothing to do with intra-day trading. Both methods employ the logic of simple market patterns that occur all the time in the markets that are very easy to spot. Once the user confirms one of the 8 pre-defined NEXUS patterns, they will then place one of the pre-defined trades according to the NEXUS method that will give a very high probability trade

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For anyone who is familiar with the material, I have a quick question ... unless I am misunderstanding the material, the numbering in the screenshot below is incorrect, right? Because you can only have a maximum of four points within a phase (err ... I hope my terminology is right ... what I mean is 4 numbers within two lines :P) and in the case I circled above he has labeled 5 points within two lines.

 

If the labeling below is indeed correct, could you please explain why? It seems like an important rule isn't being followed (or is this a guideline?) which I find strange that the author didn't notice. The material seems quite interesting, but this seeming error is putting me off ...

 

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6512/incorrectnumbering.png

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Re: Market Matrix

 

Hi Folks!

 

I'm back with another market matrix question. I've started creating my own matrices to get practice doing it and applying the matrix rules properly.

 

I wanted to confirm how many MC1 cycles I need to complete to get a full matrix solutions. I believe I need a total of 96 completed MC1 cycles and my reasoning is as follows:


  • 1. Assuming I need a minimum of 8 cycles to get a meaningful average, then I'll need 8 full MC3/4 cycles.
    2. Each MC3/4 cycle is 4 years in length and needs MC2 cycles to get the MC3/4 points. Each MC2 cycle is 1 lunar year in length so I'll need 32 MC2 cycles to calculate 8 MC3/4 cycles (8 * 4 = 32)
    3. Each MC1 cycle is one lunar month (approx 4 calendar months) in length so I'll need 3 MC1 cycles for each MC2 cycle. Therefore, I'll need a total of 96 MC1 cycles for 32 MC2 cycles (8 * 4 * 3).

 

If there's anyone who creates your own matrix cycles, could you please confirm? Or do you normally find that for the large MC3/4 cycles you don't need much accuracy so you don't need as much as 8 full cycles to complete your calculations?

 

Thanks!

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Haven't traded with it yet. There's something about it that I find interesting which is why I'm studying it. My current trading relies solely on price action by using a lot of elliott wave and fibonacci while completely disregarding fundamentals and news (I do use stochastics as well ... but not in the conventional way it is used).

 

I like the belief that everything you require to trade can be found by merely studying a chart of an actively traded market. Something about that just makes sense to me. Price patterns over long periods of time seem less "manipulatable" compared to news or fundamentals or whatnot. That's just me.

 

So far (6 mts in the equity markets with a fairly even split between long and short positions), my trading strategy is working out well. It's not spectacular but its consistent. Haven't had a losing month yet (and I don't day-trade). For every dollar I risk, I'm making a little over 25 cents. It isn't great (yet ;)) but the deviation between the expectancies of my individual trades is fairly low.

 

Anywaysss ... back to why I am starting to like the market matrix / delta stuff. I guess I can see myself integrating it well into my current trading plan. It fits well into my belief of price action providing everything I need to execute trades with a good probability of going in my direction. I'm faaaar from trading with it yet (don't wanna mess around with something thats working :P) but over the next few months I'm planning to study it and analyze my completed trades in the context of the market matrix to see how / if it could have helped.

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consistency is almost impossible in this business, some times u have a few winning months then a losing month or a string of losing months, you can never ever make a constant amount every month like you would earn as a salary if employed.

 

Do you mean to say for every dollar you risk you're making 25 cents in addition to the dollar which means u have a r:r of 1:1.25, if so thats excellent in the long run it would be outstanding.

 

If however you mean you just make 25 cents for every dollar risked then try to work on your r:r reason is you may currently have more winners than losers and that's fine but sometime sooner or later you're going to have the inevitable string of losses no matter how good your strategy is simply because the markets will change. This could dent your equity severely or may even put you out of business.

 

I know a lot of traders and among even the most successful no one has come in and made money at a steady rate, its just not possible.

 

In regard to market matrix please do keep us updated, I'm yet to meet someone who uses it on a regular basis from what I've heard sometimes even if time is up the markets don't turn.

 

Don't have any personal experience though, the underlying ideas to this never really appealed to me.

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So, I've played w/ the market matrix philosophy for a month now. Did a bunch of paper trades on historical and ongoing data. Created a few matrix solutions on some stocks. All in all, much more familiar with the market matrix approach.

 

So what is my opinion of it now that I have a wee bit of experience (paper trading experience, i.e.). Well, its not quite all that its cracked up to be ... but it still has potential, I think. hermanhass is right ... there're times when it seems as if a matrix point simply doesn't appear. Its not often ... but it does appear ... the matrix point sometimes presents itself not as swing but as just a single day with a lower low / lower high or vice versa. Yuck.

 

But thats not the main problem imo since it happens rarely. The problem when I was paper trading is that I tended to mark off points prematurely; only later to find that the actual matrix point didn't appear till a few bars later. The solution? I could increase my stops to account for such cases where I'm just a day or two off from the actual point; however, I have no logical way (ATR?) of deciding where my stop should be then. Alternatively, I could integrate other indicators as a confirmation.

 

However, right now, I want to try something different. Still using the matrix. Also using some rudimentary elliott wave counts. However, instead of outright buying and shorting stocks, I want to try my hand at options. Because with options, time is on my side ... and the matrix is all about time! So even if the stock doesn't move in my direction, so long as it doesn't move against my direction, I could still be profitable. However, with options, I don't know a reliable way to paper trade it, so I am going to execute actual trades with a wee bit of money. Let's see how they go!

 

My first one ... on the SPY:

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So what's my plan? Based on the closing prices on Friday, I believe I can execute a $122/$124 call credit spread for 0.20 each (or $20 per contract). I've queued up the order and plan on closing my position once the spread goes down to 0.10 per contract OR if price seems to have formed an MC1-6, MC1-7 but crosses above the MC1-6 (in which case while MC1-6 was MC2-9, MC2-9 was not MC3-17).

 

Will update once my position opens / gets closed.

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another links for Steve Copan Market Matrix Video Training CDs

 

size 1.2GB

 

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I tried this stuff when it came out. Paid the money and regretted it. I was given private membership to his private room where members could discuss upcoming trend changes etc. What a load of crap. Steve Copan would come on rarely, get asked loads of questions, answer a couple of select ones, then when questioned on why it doesn't work he got defensive, then later on suggested we buy a new improved method! Then would disappear! His owns calls were correct 50% of the time. If he can't get it right, how can we? That's why he sells it, and recently joined forces with that other old self proclaimed dinosaur guru Robert Miner. These guys are dreamers, they don't trade for a living, so don't waste your time is my opinion. It's pie in sky shite, and is as useful as a chocolate teapot, or a glass hammer.
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your understanding is correct you can have a max of 4 points the labeling is incorrect

 

After research concerning this issue, I came to the conclusion that the labeling is correct

 

Why ?

 

Because this count is for the MC3 or LTM with 18 points in one cycle of 4 years, concequently an average of 4 points per year, which means, following the logic of MC1, MC2, that the maximum number of point in a MC3 quarter is 5.

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Hi guys,

 

Found these files, completed Market Matrix Cycles for use in Dynamic Trader Software.

 

Markets:

 

dax

ftse100

sp500(latest)

gold

gbpusd

 

http://www.multiupload.com/31PWVEYCFU

 

Copy the Markets Folder into

 

C:\Program Files\DT\MatrixCycles

 

It may ask you to overwrite click YES.

 

You can also delete the old S&P500 file.

 

 

For the latest Dynamic Trader Software go to the following post:

 

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/7138-Dynamic-Trader-Version-VI

 

Hope this helps. :)

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scratch,

 

sorry that you spent a lot of time and money for the books and the newsletters also.

I did and do my own cycle counting in connection with elliott patterns. I came to the same conclusion as you that SC is not in the position to deliver correct forecasts. Important too: This method is not suitable to make trading decisions.

 

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