Megadroid Pro (links first post)

JusForex · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Goodmorning,
these are the trades for tonight:

2009.07.17 01:04 buy 1.34 eurusd 1.41195 1.40551 1.41735 2009.07.17 01:04 1.41315 -13.24 0.00 0.00 160.80
2009.07.17 01:04 buy 1.33 eurgbp 0.85960 0.85550 0.86460 2009.07.17 01:04 0.86020 -13.14 0.00 0.00 131.09
2009.07.17 01:04 sell 1.86 usdchf 1.07515 1.07919 1.07015 2009.07.17 01:06 1.07415 -13.02 0.00 0.00 173.16
2009.07.17 01:04 sell 1.86 usdchf 1.07510 1.08150 1.06920 2009.07.17 01:07 1.07415 -13.02 0.00 0.00 164.50
2009.07.17 01:06 sell 1.33 eurchf 1.51845 1.52270 1.51260 2009.07.17 02:31 1.51805 -13.16 0.00 0.00 49.52
2009.07.17 01:09 sell 1.34 eurgbp 0.86140 0.86630 0.85680 2009.07.17 02:28 0.86130 -13.27 0.00 0.00 22.01
2009.07.17 01:09 sell 1.34 eurgbp 0.86145 0.86750 0.85545 2009.07.17 01:11 0.86085 -13.27 0.00 0.00 132.04
No losses

Hi blogmax,

Are you using default settings ?

I believe your deposit size is $10,000 ?

Your timeframe is 1hour or 15mins ? -- shouldn't make any difference huh?

Pls share more...

Thanks.

HWolff · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

just had two crashes on my alpari account as well, even though i changed back to the version ee1.

any solutions yet?

is there maybe a problem when running the original megadroid 1.11 and the ee1 or ee2?

haliban · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

I would like to ask, If anyone has done back testing on different pairs?

Is it as stable as the previous version on EUR/USD?

Thanks for the help!

Hali :-bd

JusForex · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

I have done back test, on some other pairs, and at times I got my MT4 Crashed too.

I have not pin-point to whether is it caused by which currency pairs.

unikin · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

2301730 2009.07.16 22:03 buy 0.10 gbpusd 1.6427 1.6351 1.6477 2009.07.16 22:08 1.6437 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00

2302567 2009.07.16 22:28 buy 0.10 usdcad 1.1159 1.1115 1.1209 2009.07.16 22:36 1.1169 0.00 0.00 0.00 8.95

2302577 2009.07.16 22:28 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.4158 1.4200 1.4108 2009.07.16 23:08 1.4148 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00

2302824 2009.07.16 22:33 sell 0.10 gbpusd 1.6450 1.6483 1.6400 2009.07.16 22:48 1.6440 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00

2303078 2009.07.16 22:39 sell 0.10 usdjpy 93.89 94.43 93.39 2009.07.16 23:21 93.77 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.80

2303254 2009.07.16 22:47 sell 0.10 eurchf 1.5191 1.5234 1.5141 2009.07.16 23:41 1.5181 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.31

2303257 2009.07.16 22:47 sell 0.10 eurjpy 132.86 133.30 132.36 2009.07.16 23:01 132.76 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.65

2303447 2009.07.16 22:54 sell 0.10 usdcad 1.1178 1.1223 1.1128 2009.07.16 23:54 1.1174 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.58

2303468 2009.07.16 22:54 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8608 0.8651 0.8558 2009.07.16 23:20 0.8602 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.86

2303840 2009.07.16 23:05 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8610 0.8673 0.8550 2009.07.16 23:08 0.8604 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.87

2303868 2009.07.16 23:06 sell 0.10 eurjpy 132.84 133.28 132.34 2009.07.16 23:20 132.74 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.66

2304149 2009.07.16 23:21 buy 0.10 usdjpy 93.74 93.23 94.24 2009.07.17 00:04 93.84 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.66

2304239 2009.07.16 23:25 sell 0.10 gbpchf 1.7652 1.7701 1.7602 2009.07.17 00:09 1.7640 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.18

2304438 2009.07.16 23:34 buy 0.10 eurjpy 132.61 131.56 133.11 2009.07.17 01:02 132.62 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.07

2304681 2009.07.16 23:42 sell 0.10 gbpusd 1.6443 1.6506 1.6383 2009.07.17 00:04 1.6432 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.00

2305114 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.10 eurchf 1.5176 1.5133 1.5236 2009.07.17 02:04 1.5181 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.66

2305123 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.10 eurgbp 0.8596 0.8553 0.8646 2009.07.17 00:05 0.8602 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.86

2305342 2009.07.17 00:04 sell 0.10 usdcad 1.1177 1.1221 1.1117 2009.07.17 05:04 1.1184 0.00 0.00 0.00 -6.26

2305562 2009.07.17 00:07 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8609 0.8652 0.8559 2009.07.17 03:07 0.8620 0.00 0.00 0.00 -18.02

Yesterday results with MDPro ...

haliban · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Wow, I was left with impression that it works on 4 pairs !!! :o @-)

In the results I see all these pairs !

gbpusd

usdcad

eurusd

usdjpy

eurchf

eurjpy

eurgbp

gbpchf

Good job, and thanks for the fast replay ^:)^

Meister_Propper · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

2301730 2009.07.16 22:03 buy 0.10 gbpusd 1.6427 1.6351 1.6477 2009.07.16 22:08 1.6437 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00
2302567 2009.07.16 22:28 buy 0.10 usdcad 1.1159 1.1115 1.1209 2009.07.16 22:36 1.1169 0.00 0.00 0.00 8.95
2302577 2009.07.16 22:28 sell 0.10 eurusd 1.4158 1.4200 1.4108 2009.07.16 23:08 1.4148 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00
2302824 2009.07.16 22:33 sell 0.10 gbpusd 1.6450 1.6483 1.6400 2009.07.16 22:48 1.6440 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.00
2303078 2009.07.16 22:39 sell 0.10 usdjpy 93.89 94.43 93.39 2009.07.16 23:21 93.77 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.80
2303254 2009.07.16 22:47 sell 0.10 eurchf 1.5191 1.5234 1.5141 2009.07.16 23:41 1.5181 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.31
2303257 2009.07.16 22:47 sell 0.10 eurjpy 132.86 133.30 132.36 2009.07.16 23:01 132.76 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.65
2303447 2009.07.16 22:54 sell 0.10 usdcad 1.1178 1.1223 1.1128 2009.07.16 23:54 1.1174 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.58
2303468 2009.07.16 22:54 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8608 0.8651 0.8558 2009.07.16 23:20 0.8602 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.86
2303840 2009.07.16 23:05 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8610 0.8673 0.8550 2009.07.16 23:08 0.8604 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.87
2303868 2009.07.16 23:06 sell 0.10 eurjpy 132.84 133.28 132.34 2009.07.16 23:20 132.74 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.66
2304149 2009.07.16 23:21 buy 0.10 usdjpy 93.74 93.23 94.24 2009.07.17 00:04 93.84 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.66
2304239 2009.07.16 23:25 sell 0.10 gbpchf 1.7652 1.7701 1.7602 2009.07.17 00:09 1.7640 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.18
2304438 2009.07.16 23:34 buy 0.10 eurjpy 132.61 131.56 133.11 2009.07.17 01:02 132.62 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.07
2304681 2009.07.16 23:42 sell 0.10 gbpusd 1.6443 1.6506 1.6383 2009.07.17 00:04 1.6432 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.00
2305114 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.10 eurchf 1.5176 1.5133 1.5236 2009.07.17 02:04 1.5181 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.66
2305123 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.10 eurgbp 0.8596 0.8553 0.8646 2009.07.17 00:05 0.8602 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.86
2305342 2009.07.17 00:04 sell 0.10 usdcad 1.1177 1.1221 1.1117 2009.07.17 05:04 1.1184 0.00 0.00 0.00 -6.26
2305562 2009.07.17 00:07 sell 0.10 eurgbp 0.8609 0.8652 0.8559 2009.07.17 03:07 0.8620 0.00 0.00 0.00 -18.02

Yesterday results with MDPro ...

Which settings and which version did you use? Thanks!

unikin · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

"Which settings and which version did you use? Thanks!"

3000€ account, agressive, 0.1 lot per trade, Risk=0 and Recovery= false trade logic settings see below:

USD/JPY= 4

GBP/USD= 4

EUR/JPY= 1

GBP/CHF= 4

USD/CAD= 2

unikin · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Others pairs are standard so no need to change trade logic. I used Don's Megadroid Pro version.

HWolff · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

"Which settings and which version did you use? Thanks!"

3000€ account, agressive, 0.1 lot per trade, Risk=0 and Recovery= false trade logic settings see below:

USD/JPY= 4
GBP/USD= 4
EUR/JPY= 1
GBP/CHF= 4
USD/CAD= 2

thx unikin, and which broker and which megadroid version do you use?

HWolff · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

"Which settings and which version did you use? Thanks!"

3000€ account, agressive, 0.1 lot per trade, Risk=0 and Recovery= false trade logic settings see below:

USD/JPY= 4
GBP/USD= 4
EUR/JPY= 1
GBP/CHF= 4
USD/CAD= 2

thx unikin, and which broker and which megadroid version do you use?

i was a bit late, but still which broker are you at and is it the latest md pro ee2 version?

unikin · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

As I said Don's educated version of Megadroid Pro ee2 and broker is TadawulFx (I'm not completely satisfied with them, a lot of slippage lately).

Don · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Hello everyone,

I'll look after these crashes today. Hold on, please. ;)

(However I had only one crach so far, at backtesting, Alpari UK.)

siddeshsd · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Hi,

I think we will have to use the correlation of pairs for non standard pair .\http://www.aboutcurrency.com/tools/currency_pair_correlation.shtml

Siddeshsd

to_ul · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

2302588 2009.07.16 22:28 buy 0.05 usdchf 1.0728 1.0666 1.0788 2009.07.16 23:25 1.0738 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.66

2303839 2009.07.16 23:05 sell 0.05 eurgbp 0.8610 0.8653 0.8560 2009.07.16 23:08 0.8604 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.93

2305071 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.05 eurusd 1.4125 1.4054 1.4175 2009.07.17 00:05 1.4135 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00

2305111 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.05 eurgbp 0.8596 0.8553 0.8646 2009.07.17 00:05 0.8602 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.93

2305143 2009.07.17 00:04 buy 0.05 eurchf 1.5174 1.5131 1.5234 2009.07.17 02:04 1.5181 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.26

2305560 2009.07.17 00:07 sell 0.05 eurgbp 0.8609 0.8652 0.8559 2009.07.17 03:07 0.8620 0.00 0.00 0.00 -9.01

one floating:

2305681 2009.07.17 00:09 sell 0.05 eurgbp 0.8610 0.8673 0.8550 0.8650 0.00 0.00 0.00 -32.62

my trades from yesterday

(tadawulfx / demo / $500)

to_ul · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

btw i noticed on all broker that asian session isnt as quiet as it was one week ago.

hyperdimension · July 17, 2009

Historical data

A lot of you guys are doing backtests but you need to realize that the historical data that you get from the MetaTrader History Center is of very low quality.

I've spent days checking a lot of data from various sources. I've been using a MetaTrader script that I found on another forum that checks for holes in the data. I've attached this script to this message in case you want to try it. If you take backtesting seriously, you should. Alpari had over 10000 holes of 3 consecutive bars or more in their M1 data. This is particulary important for backtesting Megadroid because it actually uses M1 data (together with M5 and M15). Data from ODL, InterbankFX, FOREX.com, were just as bad, and it seems they all got their data from the same (bad) source (Metaquotes?)... the only thing they changed is their UTC (GMT) offsets to match their sever times.

Talking of UTC offsets, it is an additional problem when you use data from a brokers whose UTC offset changes to match daylight savings time. If you don't handle it in your code then the backtester will be taking trades in the wrong time window. It's easier simply not to use such data for backtesting so that you can stick to a constant UTC offset during testing. Some brokers whose data I've found switches UTC offset for daylight savings are Alpari (US and UK), Activtrades, IKON Royal, ATC Brokers.

The best data I've checked so far is Dukascopy's data. It only had 14 holes of 3 consecutive bars or more in their M1 data. In total it was missing around 900 M1 bars (out of a possible ~3.7 million), and I filled these using data from the FXDD web site, which left a few remaining holes, which I then filled with InterbankFX data. The problem with Dukascopy is that they don't want you to download too much. I think I've been banned/blacklisted already.

I'm now running optimizations of Megadroid Pro parameters with this data, and so far the results are quite different. e.g. for one particular optimization pass (same parameter values), using data from Alpari UK MetaTrader History Center, I got: Profit = 2433.37, Profit factor = 3.48, Drawdown = 1.4%. Using my new data, I got: Profit = 4174.64, Profit factor = 15.55, Drawdown = 0.61%.

The tests run much slower, I think because there aren't so many bars missing.

My tests have convinced me that good quality data is essential for backtesting, particularly for scalping strategies that are sensitive to small timeframe movements. Using low quality data to test scalping strategies are very much (though not completely) a waste of time and can give you wrong results (e.g. the optimal values that you find from running Optimizations may not actually be optimal).

I've read that the best free data to use is Oanda's tick data: https://fxtrade.oanda.com/your_account/historical_tick_by_tick_data.shtml

You need to have a live funded account with them to be able to get it. Is there anyone here who has an Oanda account and can share this data with us?

There is a free program to convert Oanda's tick data to other time frames here: http://www.tickdataconverter.com. But we need to get the data first.

to_ul · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

well its no use to use data from another broker or metaquotes data for backtesting, its just other data and isnt an indicator for success of any robot. always forward test it on demo or small micro account. even this is not good cause demo servers/accounts differ greatly from real servers/accounts.

sure its better to have data without holes etc, anyway robot behave differently when traded on real live accounts.

copycat · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Hello everyone,

I'll look after these crashes today. Hold on, please. ;)
(However I had only one crach so far, at backtesting, Alpari UK.)

Thanks Don for your hard work =D> =D>

After rebooted the machine, so far no crash yet...(been 5 hours already!!) Keep my finger crossed [-O<

Cheers.

apple1937 · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Hello everyone,

I'll look after these crashes today. Hold on, please. ;)
(However I had only one crach so far, at backtesting, Alpari UK.)

Hi Don,

I encountered several times of MT4 crashed when I run your modified version of megadroid Pro in my Alpari UK demo account. :( any ideas?

Don · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

Apple1937: what operating system do you have? Vista? XP?

to_ul · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

i experienced those crashes on alpari platform too.

using XP and second version of mdpro educated

ShaKerZ · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

I think that the first version don't crash... So if we trade officially pairs, why not use the first version ??

Don · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

DO NOT use the first version, since that one is works correctly on EURUSD ONLY! Please wait for the conclusion of this crash-test. :D

Until that, you can use ee2 on the basic four pairs safely.

reza_oscar · July 17, 2009

Re: Megadroid Pro

I've tested logic 2 and 3 was very profitable on EURUSD!!!

Am I mistaken?!!

EURUSD (17/06/2009 - 17/07/2009)

(RiskLevel = 0 , Aggresive = true, Recovery = False, lots = 1.5)

Logic1

no. of trades: 23

Profit: 127.23$

Max Drawdown: 1.74%

Wining percent: 91.3%

Logic2

no. of trades: 71

Profit: 455.15$

Max Drawdown: 1.38%

Wining percent: 92.96%

Logic3

no. of trades: 83

Profit: 422.19$

Max Drawdown: 0.82%

Wining percent: 95.18%

correct me if i'm wrong! :hammer:

tnx

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