joms Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Wow...look at the address: Address : JL. SOEKARNO HATTA RT./RW. 003/002 LUBANG PANJANG, BARANGIN SAWAHLUNTO, SUMATERA BARAT, INDONESIA 27424 Why some of my friends said the seller is in YOGYAKARTA City,Java Island, not Sumatra? I don't think this is good idea for buying... as we all know... Western Union is not the safest way in transactions.... I'm just afraid if unresponsible guys working in Western Union, do the trick for cash our transferred money... just like some cases ever happened, not just in Indonesia, even in China and other country. so please be cautions... WU is very dangerous. Better option is to use WebMoney which offers some protection for the buyer where the seller needs to fulfill his promise and send the product. If you guys are gathering a group to raise the $500 count me in. Between just 10 people should be like $50 a person. Here is the URL for WM arbitration in case there is a problem: http://arbitrage.wmtransfer.com/asp/default.asp Main URL for Webmoney: http://www.wmtransfer.com/eng/services/index.shtml I recommend to open a master WM account and each of us Add funds to that account. Once we reach $500 we can buy it. The only question is.. what happens to the other members that did not participate in the purchase? Will the EA be distributed only to purchasers? That is the main question. Since we are all sharing stuff here maybe this is not the best approach.. lets take a vote or a poll maybe. Regards This is very good idea, Please count me in I'm interested to try it out. :arrow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1713006271 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) -. Money collection in any kind is against the forum rules. This rule is as strong as spamming. -. We, mods, do NOT gamble. We do NOT buy stuff and test it whether it's good or not. We test it 1st and then we buy. Do not expect us to buy it for you guys. -. We mods encourage you guys to share stuffs and test it. If it's good, we encourage you to buy it to support the author or creator. -. Even if you arranged in private to buy a certain software or EA, we encourage you to share it with others who do not participate in the private collection. Why? Because large people can test it and you will know whether it is a money well spent or not. Read: http://indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?p=17417#p17417 Regards, Quote Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai. Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ fxknight Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) -. Money collection in any kind is against the forum rules. This rule is as strong as spamming. -. We, mods, do NOT gamble. We do NOT buy stuff and test it whether it's good or not. We test it 1st and then we buy. Do not expect us to buy it for you guys. -. We mods encourage you guys to share stuffs and test it. If it's good, we encourage you to buy it to support the author or creator. -. Even if you arranged in private to buy a certain software or EA, we encourage you to share it with others who do not participate in the private collection. Why? Because large people can test it and you will know whether it is a money well spent or not. Read: http://indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?p=17417#p17417 Regards, Well, rules are rules and we must abide by them as members of this forum. I guess as long as one of us buys it and shares it with the community - this is the only choice. Anybody has any other ideas as to how we can proceed from here? It seems we've hit a dead end for now. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) I think the issue is how reliable the seller of the EA is. No other evidence to prove the existence/performance of the EA except a test page. Let's see who's brave enough to send the USD1000 to the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) so there is no solution to have this ea? hmmm.. come on guys.. it gotta be some ways. if you want to buy it.. let me in. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ fxknight Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) I think the issue is how reliable the seller of the EA is. No other evidence to prove the existence/performance of the EA except a test page. Let's see who's brave enough to send the USD1000 to the seller. I agree completely. The seller states "no backtest supplied". Why? It is because the backtest is done by MT4 with the default spread of the EURCHF and EURGBP which is higher than 1-2 pips and the backtest would not look good. Precisely the reason why it only looks good at SigmaFX when traded on 1 pip spreads. The bottom line is this.. as a group risking $5-$10 each it is no big deal to discover in the end that we have an EA impossible to trade at any broker. We might even improve this EA and make it able to trade at a higher spread profitably, who knows? But for just one person to risk $1000 and get a bucket of sour grapes.. it would be a sad situation. For sure all of us would be there to try to change the code a bit and make it work. Hopefully we can come to a solution soon ;) Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adroure Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) we can just try one and then after we know is not a scammer we go for the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noplan88 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) I suggest buy the ISEA first, maybe get more people to join each person risk $5 - $10, list down the name, there must be organizer to do this, fxknight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) i just can believe it.. this ea is making 50k daily average since day 1..and its only 3 days running!! :ahhh: holygrail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ fxknight Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) I suggest buy the ISEA first, maybe get more people to join each person risk $5 - $10, list down the name, there must be organizer to do this, fxknight? I appreciate the trust factor but I am only a member here for a short period of time and this is a big responsability having control of other's people money. I think a more senior member should open a WebMoney account and we can all fund it with our own contribution. I am just curious if we do this privately, if it still is braking the board's rules. Of course we will share the decompiled EA with the community so everybody will benefit in the end. Can the moderator advise us if this is ok to do and falls within the board's regulations? Please don't lock this thread without telling us if this ok and giving us the opportunity to comply with the board's regulations. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roels Major Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Soory guys...I would love to buy it and get some lilttle contribution..but know my budget is strictly limited cause i have to work with another loss in the previous day...I got loss $500 with oan System and still on the process to recovery it.... Anyway I have checked the address of the seller in My country Indonesia i can't find the address on the google map..but i know the location listed there Sawahlunto, Sumater Barat, but no more detail from map google....i can not check it to cause the location is too far from where i live about 2000 Kilometres from my place in the end of sumatera (Atjeh).... Anyway...may this information could usefull... Quote "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1713006271 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) I suggest buy the ISEA first, maybe get more people to join each person risk $5 - $10, list down the name, there must be organizer to do this, fxknight? I appreciate the trust factor but I am only a member here for a short period of time and this is a big responsability having control of other's people money. I think a more senior member should open a WebMoney account and we can all fund it with our own contribution. I am just curious if we do this privately, if it still is braking the board's rules. Of course we will share the decompiled EA with the community so everybody will benefit in the end. Can the moderator advise us if this is ok to do and falls within the board's regulations? Please don't lock this thread without telling us if this ok and giving us the opportunity to comply with the board's regulations. Regards Read the rules again. There are new rules added that could get you all banned. Regards, Quote Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai. Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabiz Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Somebody on other forum managed to find the logic of this ea and it looks quite simple... Start. Open 2 pending orders. 1 Sell, 5 pips up from market price & 1 Buy 5 pips down from market price. The price will move and hit one of the two pending orders. From here starts the machinery to move. Once the order arrives at +2 pips is closed and immediately opens a new at 5 pips away with TP at current price. If the order opposite is over 8 pips away, this is trailing to keep this distance. (see this work in th chart, is spectacular, I highly recommend). SL=29. Maybe we can try to code it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) dabiz, remember they are buy and sell limit... wo it would automaticaly estimate a retracement of the market at that level. it is not that simple. there must be something that tell the ea where to put those limit rgds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) The EA is based on TRO's Drain the bank system. --- Read the rules. Forum link not allowed. You just take one step closer to be banned. Mod --- Try it on a M5 chart on EURGBP and everything matches :) I think it's not that difficult to make it into an EA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecret Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) The EA is based on TRO's Drain the bank system. It isnt. Sorry --- everybody is responsible for the posts, quotes, and codes. You just quotes a forum link. Read the rules. You are one step closer to be banned. Mod --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) It isnt. Sorry hey dude, ¿¿what makes you so categorical in the negation?? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominoFX Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) It isnt. Sorry hey dude, ¿¿what makes you so categorical in the negation?? thanks TRO himself said in another forum that this EA is not based on his drain the bank system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecret Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) It isnt. Sorry hey dude, ¿¿what makes you so categorical in the negation?? thanks Thats what I thought at first but after few days looking at demo account and how it performs I can say for sure that isnt DTB method. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) You are correct. It looks similar but definitely not TRO's method. My bad :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ fxknight Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Hi Guys, Look - there are many great ideas for system development out there and a lot better than this idea. If you want to better utilize your time I personally recommend to stay away from this ISEA. This EA concept is nothing but a bag of worms disguised as a nice cake until you take the first bite. Remember what I have said is in writing here and cannot be changed and I will say it again: This EA cannot make money with any broker that I know of due to higher than 1 pip spread. I wish that I would be proven wrong when we do get it in the future. If I had even 1% hope that it is a good concept, perhaps I would find a way to have bought it. But I will not buy it even in my wildest dreams, even it it makes $100k a day on demo at SigmaFX. It is totally meaningless. Besides even if a similar EA is coded, how will you know 100% that the concept is same as ISEA? If it loses, you will think - it is not the same. If it wins, it may not win enough so you will question the difference anyway.. see my point? Best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adroure Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) let's get it ;) ...have you seen MB Trading? the spread sometimes goes to 0 on EURUSD. We could use, currenex as well where spreads are really tight...we can always add restrictions to the code to stop trading when spreads are higher than 1 pip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Open 2 pending orders. 1 Sell, 5 pips up from market price & 1 Buy 5 pips down from market price. The price will move and hit one of the two pending orders. From here starts the machinery to move. Once the order arrives at +2 pips is closed and immediately opens a new at 5 pips away with TP at current price. If the order opposite is over 8 pips away, this is trailing to keep this distance. (see this work in the chart, is spectacular). SL=29. However, I do see the sell limit moved up as well. If it is trail the price in 5 pips steps, then it shall not moved back to higher price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecret Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Open 2 pending orders. 1 Sell, 5 pips up from market price & 1 Buy 5 pips down from market price. The price will move and hit one of the two pending orders. From here starts the machinery to move. Once the order arrives at +2 pips is closed and immediately opens a new at 5 pips away with TP at current price. If the order opposite is over 8 pips away, this is trailing to keep this distance. (see this work in the chart, is spectacular). SL=29. However, I do see the sell limit moved up as well. If it is trail the price in 5 pips steps, then it shall not moved back to higher price. Quicksilver wrote that....Are u acting wise? :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor) Hello above, http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2692&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=80 in this thread post 13 it is already posted the logic, hence I would like to discuss about the logic here. This is my purpose. credit to Quicksilver who find the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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