ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

[William1713006271]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William I believe the idea is similar to this site

 

http://www.thecollectivefx.com/index.html

 

I am interested to see the trade volumes the liquidity provider requires to satisfy their side.

 

The idea is out of the box, the specific quota's need to be assessed to be assured that it is an attainable target. It could be quite lucrative if set up correctly, I think it needs to be set up properly not quickly

How would I know if that website is not a fraud?

 

I also never like things to be in rush. If people try to rush to take my money, usually that is the 1st signal of scammers.

 

This sounds like HYIP investment. Tell people to invest as quickly as possible because this and that. All good and merry until they run away with our money.

 

No offense progressapama

 

But afaik there are only 3 types of brokers in this world:

- interbank members

- market marker

- ECN

 

No offense, but:

1. you are collecting people to collect money, which is a strictly forbidden in this forum.

2. We know nothing about you. We have never met you face to face.

3. How could we know that you are not just ganging up with boston something and collect the fund and run away?

4. I've never heard of boston tech in my whole life. Anybody beside progressapama have ever heard this company?

5. All you do is provide your words. You don't even provide a copy of your legal agreements, etc etc etc.

6. All the ones supporting the idea are all new members. As I said before I treat new members are treated by the premise "Guilty! Until proven otherwise". All the respected and experienced senior members have nothing to say in this particular matter.

7. Too many vague things. Smells like fish and squids.

 

progressapama, as a mod, I'm just trying to protect members here. The concept is all too vague and only based on your words. If you are a legitimate one, please forgive me if I've offended you, but you are treating us like we are a child. Give us something solid beside your words.

 

For all members, please becareful.

 

Regards,

[APopovA]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

I am glad that there are some people that are still on mother Earth. How about we continue looking for a way to make EA work, but without maybe changing the world order. I still do not believe that no matter what you guys do, there is no way you can beat big honest companies like IB or even MBT, especially with MT4. Any way, no matter what happens with your syndicate, there is a lot of time before it can start working, and there are a lot of people, including me that will not take part in it.

So how about splitting the subject and let us continue our attempt to make the EA work here, while a new topic can go ahead and dedicate itself to a syndicate issues?

No offense, but it is more than 80 pages already!

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Update: TRADERS CLUB

 

interested Members = 27 and growing

 

Current Amount = US$ 1,100 + 3 Servers

[Abdulisback]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Update: TRADERS CLUB

 

interested Members = 27 and growing

 

Current Amount = US$ 1,100 + 3 Servers

 

Dude, what is that,, could you read english?!

 

William just asked you for an explanaition, where is it?

 

To me, this is a clear 100% Scam, unless you prove otherwise ofcourse. Eventhough I highly doubt you can.

[sgteo]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Thanks William for highlighting the concerns on behalf of the forum members here..

 

Pama..

 

Perhaps you can address the concerns of William (the moderators) as I am sure every member which come across this proposal would very much will the concerns of William are certainly our corcenns too...

 

Thanks for the updates..

[riffster]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

No explanation, no interest

 

i could even see the logic behind it, im a little bit turned around now

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William I believe the idea is similar to this site

 

http://www.thecollectivefx.com/index.html

 

I am interested to see the trade volumes the liquidity provider requires to satisfy their side.

 

The idea is out of the box, the specific quota's need to be assessed to be assured that it is an attainable target. It could be quite lucrative if set up correctly, I think it needs to be set up properly not quickly

How would I know if that website is not a fraud?

 

I also never like things to be in rush. If people try to rush to take my money, usually that is the 1st signal of scammers.

 

This sounds like HYIP investment. Tell people to invest as quickly as possible because this and that. All good and merry until they run away with our money.

 

No offense progressapama

 

But afaik there are only 3 types of brokers in this world:

- interbank members

- market marker

- ECN

 

No offense, but:

1. you are collecting people to collect money, which is a strictly forbidden in this forum.

2. We know nothing about you. We have never met you face to face.

3. How could we know that you are not just ganging up with boston something and collect the fund and run away?

4. I've never heard of boston tech in my whole life. Anybody beside progressapama have ever heard this company?

5. All you do is provide your words. You don't even provide a copy of your legal agreements, etc etc etc.

6. All the ones supporting the idea are all new members. As I said before I treat new members are treated by the premise "Guilty! Until proven otherwise". All the respected and experienced senior members have nothing to say in this particular matter.

7. Too many vague things. Smells like fish and squids.

 

progressapama, as a mod, I'm just trying to protect members here. The concept is all too vague and only based on your words. If you are a legitimate one, please forgive me if I've offended you, but you are treating us like we are a child. Give us something solid beside your words.

 

For all members, please becareful.

 

Regards,

 

 

Hi Guys,

 

William , i am glad that you asked the Questions. I am legitimate and no SCAM . I am not interested in taking anyone's Funds at all. Infact if i get my way with BOSTON as concerns how to reschedule the Payments on Tuesday, 26th May 2009 then i will jsut go ahead and Open the Brokerage myself . I am just trying to Share with the Forum so that we can Help ourselves. I myself have been SCAMMED by some brokers who claimed that they will offer Low Spreads and all that Crap and they offered nothing.

 

I wanted this to be a MEMBERSHIP Brokerage for Members so that collectively we can benefit as members and at least be able to make some good money to live on and do something about our lives.

 

NOTE: I don't want anyone to join or Feel that i am forcing them to Join anything if they don't like or want to or feel like it is a SCAM . Please Don't. I don't want you to Join or be member if you feel that i am trying to somehow take your money or collecting money for some SCAM. I am not interested at all .

 

If you are not willing to join our forces together or are feeling that i am a SCAM then i will drop the Suggestion and i will go ahead and pursue it just myself as my own company.

 

Please Nobody is forcing or saying that Join or be a member. It is an Idea or a suggestion that i am serious about and Pursuing. And William , I am sorry i am not treating anyone like a child. I try to explain everyhting as much as i can. I am still in talks with Boston Technlogies http://www.bostontechnologies.com and i keep updating the forum as i get the information and negotiate some things and features that members are looking for. I am not hiding anything oe any information. I am updating the forum as i get it .

 

Well , If the Members feel that this is a SCAM please let me know and i will not pursue the Boston Technology talks on behalf of the interested members But i will Pursue it Myself and Go ahead and form a Brokerage as a company with Different tiers of Clients.

[victor21]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hi,

 

"4. I've never heard of boston tech in my whole life. Anybody beside progressapama have ever heard this company?"

 

I've heard about boston tech by the news around "virtual dealer plug in", it seems that company have developped a plug in for market maker in MT4 ..

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

If the so called experienced members ( The Wise elders ) have said that it is a SCAM and that we should drop the Idea of our own brokerage then i guess if most of you think that way then i will not bother any one with the idea or suggestion at all . I will do what i can on my own.

 

 

" Why do some people always think that Legitimate people are SCAMs but when they are Approached by the Real SCAM artists , then they have no Clue "

 

Thank you very much.

[tgt123]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hi progressapama,

 

Thanks for your good suggestion to setup a brokerage house for member trader!!!! That is a dream for so many retail trader I think so!! For fair and black and white to all future joined member, would it be nice you disclose all your email conversation with both party within Boston and all related. :arrow: :arrow:

 

 

 

Start our own brokerage trading house!!!??? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

http://www.bostontechnologies.com/startbrokerage.html

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hi,

 

"4. I've never heard of boston tech in my whole life. Anybody beside progressapama have ever heard this company?"

 

I've heard about boston tech by the news around "virtual dealer plug in", it seems that company have developped a plug in for market maker in MT4 ..

 

Yes, i remember that . They were sanctioned for that and metaquotes Banned it . The virtual plugin was produced for metaquotes by BT. MetaQuotes never used it on Real accounts because it was against NFA & CFTC regulations (USA ) and FSA in UK . The banned it completely after the trials.

[riffster]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

there are a few threads on the forex factory with reference to this company, there are articles on reuters about it but i dont know if just any old shmoe can upload to them.

[tgt123]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

http://iticsoftware.com/metatrader-broker.php

 

http://www.indo-investasi.com/viewtopic.php?p=11992#p11992

 

 

Boston Technologies is working with companies such as FXCM, Gain Capital, ODL, Alpari, MIG, Interbank FX, and FXDD to create the most competitive Retail Forex business in the world. We couple the immensely popular MetaTrader4 Platform, our extensive partner network, and our own innovative technology to start organizations off with the right foundation needed to succeed in retail forex.

[Abdulisback]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hi,

 

"4. I've never heard of boston tech in my whole life. Anybody beside progressapama have ever heard this company?"

 

I've heard about boston tech by the news around "virtual dealer plug in", it seems that company have developped a plug in for market maker in MT4 ..

 

Yes, i remember that . They were sanctioned for that and metaquotes Banned it . The virtual plugin was produced for metaquotes by BT. MetaQuotes never used it on Real accounts because it was against NFA & CFTC regulations (USA ) and FSA in UK . The banned it completely after the trials.

 

And is there any legal papers that your working on for this business? Show me the legal papers that proves that what your doing is not a scam. Legal registrations that does not allow you to steal money and run.

 

These are the first things that you should have presented.

 

I challenge you to provide that and show your good intentions.

[drbastem]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

This is actually a very simple EA. I tried to follow the logic revealed and written this EA. however, this is my first time to write EA for Buy_limit and sell_limit, I have keeping in getting the famous "order Send error 130". If someone is good in debug the "order send error 130", please help.

 

download the EA here.

http://www.formulatrader.com/download/ISEAlikev1.mq4

 

Oh, we better just wait for the EA appare up on the net then. Thanks for help.

http://www.4shared.com/get/106643427/3a7934a7/ISEAlikev1.html

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

BOSTON TECHNLOGIES is the only Company that is Actually Supplying all the STP technology Bridges for Metatrader 4 SERVER. Most of the MT4 Brokers who are using STP are actually using Boston Tech STP with NO dealing desk option e.g FXCM , FXDD, Gain Capital, Alpari, MIG, Interbank FX and ODL . Boston technologies is the Only Company that was Licensed by MetaQuotes to have the Metatrader 4 Server API .

 

i don't want to beat any drum . Please find out more for yourself at http://www.bostontechnologies.com . I guess most of us never knew that all those trades they were telling you about using STP technology with NO Dealing Desk actually is Boston Technology STP. I will assure you , if your broker is using STP technology with No Dealing Desk then 99.9% thay are using Boston Tech STP with No dealing Desk with Filtered Data

 

 

I think i will Drop the Pursuing of the Brokerage on behalf of the members because the MOD and the So called Senior experienced members say it is a SCAM and that i am somehow working with Boston Tech in order to SCAM our members.

 

I will let you guys know how everything goes as i pursue it. If there is anyone who has contributed i will refund their funds ASAP. If your were looking to contribute Please don't if you do i will refund it immediately.

 

 

I started this Idea with an Open mind to help the Forum Members but i guess the MOD has tunred it into something else. I will say thank you to everyone who is interested i will keep you posted

 

Thank you very much

[victor21]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Maybe we should stop saying that it's a scam, because from now on you can't prove this is a scam.

 

If you ask kindly to progressapama some "prouf", i'm sure he'll provide it.

And if it's not the case then you are right, but don't say it's a scam before proved it...it could be insulting ...

 

I'm maybe a little "naive", but until now we can't say it's a scam ... so let progessapama answer the questions, and do not accuse him ..

 

Hoping to talk more kindly ...

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

For Those who are doubting and thinking this is a SCAM here is my Email communications with Boston Tech. So make your own conclusions. I am not SCAM . I am very legitmate Person with a good heart that was trying to do Something to try and help our forum members . I had and still have a very open mind for trading . i do trading for a living and i understand what most of us retail traders go through .

 

NOTE: Jade Investments Group, LLC is a registered Company in the State of WISCONSIN , USA . This my company that i registered when i started to Pursue the Idea initially but i could not get the Technology that was needed without having a Dealing desk until BOSTON TECH and other companies started offering that STP technology with No dealing Desk Package

 

 

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Hi Brandon,

 

It was great talking to you. I have been reading a lot of information on your website. According your Website you are providing a complete STP brokerage Pacakge. Whta is needed on my side to have it up and running in a short time.

 

1. Do i have to deal with Banks as concerns Liquidity and Client Funds or that will be taken care by Boston Tech

 

2. I would like to have Boston Tech Setup everything so that All i have to do begin Live trading with the Members

 

3. Brokerage Accounts with the Liquidity providers or banks and how to deposit and withdraw client funds

 

Please if you can get to me what is required of me that would be great. I will work as closely as possible with Boston Technologies to accomplish what we want as a small brokerage.

 

Jacob XXXXXXX

CEO

Jade Investments Group , LLC

( a Private Investments Company )

Email: [email protected]

 

 

 

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From: Brandon Russell [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 23 May 2009 18:49

To: [email protected]

Subject: Contact details

 

 

Good talking with you Jacob,

 

 

 

Herewith my contact details.

 

 

 

Brandon Russell

Marketing Director

641 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY, 10022

http://www.bostontechnologies.com

+1 917.484.0036 (cell)

+1 617.314.6800 (general office and support)

+1 617 938 3447 (FAX)

brussellfx (skype)

 

RISK WARNING: Trading foreign exchange on margin carries a high level of risk, and may not be suitable for all investors. Before deciding to trade foreign exchange you should carefully consider your monetary objectives, level of experience, and risk appetite. The possibility exists that you could sustain a loss of some or all of your deposited funds and therefore you should not speculate with capital that you cannot afford to lose. You may be liable for losses that exceed the amount of margin that you post. You should be aware of all the risks associated with foreign exchange trading, and seek advice from an independent advisor if you have any doubts. Past returns are not indicative of future results.

 

Boston Technologies Inc assumes no responsibility for errors, inaccuracies or omissions in these materials. They do not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. Boston Technologies Inc shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation losses, lost revenues, or lost profits that may result from these materials. This email is not a solicitation. The information contained in this electronic mail message is private and confidential and may contain privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may be privileged, proprietary and exempt from disclosure under applicable federal, state or other law. Any recipient of this electronic mail message other than the intended recipient is hereby notified not to disclose, distribute or copy this electronic mail message, or take or refrain from taking any action in response to this message.

 

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Hi George,

 

I am interested and hoping to work with Boston Technologies to help in establishing a small brokerage firm. I do run a Small Private Trading Group of Private Investment Traders . Our Private members only Traders consist of several Members and Growing Everyday. On average most of the Member Traders will trade 10 to 40 Mini Lot Trades or 2 to 10 Standard Lot Trades per day in Spot Forex, Commodities ( Oil, Gold, Silver etc ), and Sometimes indices. 90% of our Member Traders are Intraday Traders who use Metatrader 4 Platform. So we are interested in the Metatrader 4 Platform.

 

Please can your team get back to me as quickly as you can. We need to move very fast on the establishment. It is going to be Non Regulated because it is a MEMBERS ONLY Brokerage. I do have a Company established already and all the business setup.

 

Jacob XXXXXX

CEO

Jade Investments Group , LLC

( a Private Investments Company )

Email: [email protected]

 

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From: Kavin Kankeshwar [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 22 May 2009 14:59

To: George Alex Popescu

Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Brandon Russell

Subject: Prospective SYOB customer

 

 

Dear George,

 

I spoke to Jacob and he is interested in purchasing our SYOB package but his concern his paying $35500 upfront for the package. He is inquiring of some sort of deal where he can make payment later. From what i understand he wants to start using our product and pay us after a week or else he would like some payment plan stretch over a year.

 

 

Regards

 

--

Kavin.Kankeshwar

Product Delivery Specialist

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Boston Technologies Inc, 100 Franklin, Boston, MA, 02110

http://www.bostontechnologies.com

 

 

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+1 617 319 3724 (cell)

+1 617.314.6800 (general office and support)

+1 617 938 3447 (FAX)

kavinkankeshwar (skype)

 

RISK WARNING: Trading foreign exchange on margin carries a high level of risk, and may not be suitable for all investors. Before deciding to trade foreign exchange you should carefully consider your monetary objectives, level of experience, and risk appetite. The possibility exists that you could sustain a loss of some or all of your deposited funds and therefore you should not speculate with capital that you cannot afford to lose. You may be liable for losses that exceed the amount of margin that you post. You should be aware of all the risks associated with foreign exchange trading, and seek advice from an independent advisor if you have any doubts. Past returns are not indicative of future results.

 

Boston Technologies Inc assumes no responsibility for errors, inaccuracies or omissions in these materials. They do not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. Boston Technologies Inc shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation losses, lost revenues, or lost profits that may result from these materials. This email is not a solicitation. The information contained in this electronic mail message is private and confidential and may contain privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may be privileged, proprietary and exempt from disclosure under applicable federal, state or other law. Any recipient of this electronic mail message other than the intended recipient is hereby notified not to disclose, distribute or copy this electronic mail message, or take or refrain from taking any action in response to this message.

[Forexpro1713006044]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

This is actually a very simple EA. I tried to follow the logic revealed and written this EA. however, this is my first time to write EA for Buy_limit and sell_limit, I have keeping in getting the famous "order Send error 130". If someone is good in debug the "order send error 130", please help.

 

download the EA here.

http://www.formulatrader.com/download/ISEAlikev1.mq4

 

Oh, we better just wait for the EA appare up on the net then. Thanks for help.

http://www.4shared.com/get/106643427/3a7934a7/ISEAlikev1.html

 

 

What do you mean ? :?:

 

By the way, what happens to finimej – didn’t show up in this thread since a long time ?

[progressapama]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

As i just said i know we have a lot of members interested but i did not want the MOD to taint my suggestion or Idea as a SCAM . it is heartful for someone who regards everyone to be innocent until they Prove otherwise, to be somehow labeled as SCAM .

 

I guess i will stop the Communication about our own Brokerage idea so that I am not continuously labelled a SCAM when what i was trying to do is Help bring the members together for better benefits using our Collective power. Together we can succeed easily .

 

If you want to email you are welcome . i will try to answer your email about where i am in the process. Please do not Send me any Contribution at this time.

 

Thank you ADIOS My friends it is Bed time for me here

[uagadugu]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

progressapama I m with you! I think we should try to invest $ 100 for each member in a business that could bring more benefit than any other broker in the world forex.This will be Nice!Let us all unite and believe!!!

[William1713006271]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

I have never said progressapama is a scam artist or this is a scam. I said HYIP is scam while this is very vague and smells fishy thus need something solid from progressapama.

 

progressapama, if you get the expression that I'm accusing you of a scammer, i apologize. That is not my intention. I just need more proof.

 

Afaik market markers are the liquidity provider. Those are the fact here in indonesia and in US books, whether in stocks or forex history books.

 

I'm not sure whether currently they try to separate the liquidity provider with market marker or not. After all, market marker jobs is to provide liquidity. That's the main job, if the main job is separated, then what will the market marker be?

 

Your idea of creating an honest brokerage company using data from liquidity provider (aka market marker) will make your brokerage firm an ECN (for simplicity sake) Which will be ok and may not be a scam.

 

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Anyway. Here's the thing.

 

Even if the idea is legitimate, and progressapama is not a scam artist, the idea is against the rule of this forum. You can not collect people to collect money. It's a very strong rule.

 

Please, EVERYBODY, must read the rules once again.

 

It is also somehow mods mistake for taking so long to action. We are overwhelmed by the numbers of spams scams and clones in this forum especially this sub-section so we kindda miss the idea from the beginning. I'm representing the mods to apologize to all members for causing such a ruckus.

 

Indeed, we can not prove that progressapama is a scam artist and we should not call him a scammer. However, progressapama, you are not allowed to discuss this kind of matter publicly anymore. It's against the rules. That's why the rule is there, to prevent something like this.

 

So, let's get back to square one.

- no member should call progressapama a scammer for this matter.

- progressapama must follow the rules and not collect people to collect money in public anymore. This is not only for this matter, and the rules apply to all members. Violators will be banned without any warnings.

- The mods will clean up these redundant discussions. Wuih, it's quite a lot, I'll let our new mod to clean this up :D (from current vote, Dr. Forex, it will be you tedious job :D )

- We will all stop discussing about this brokerage thing. Violators will get a slap in the butts. :D

 

Ok then. I hope this clear things up. I'll go manicure. C U.

 

Regards,

[Abdulisback]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

No, Stop acting like that!!

 

Provide the legal paper work for this, and dont let the money to be funded to you but rather to a company owned by the founders all together.

 

The reason why you keep on ignoring me is because YOU ARE a Scamer!!

 

Moderator, if this guy keeps ignoring me, please Bann him before he brings people to believe his Lies!

[drforex]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William you are funny. I still don't know if you are M/F because some guys do like manicure :">

 

Totally support your viewpoint.

 

Ok guys let focus our attention on improving the EA.

[dovgr]

Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

No, Stop acting like that!!

 

Provide the legal paper work for this, and dont let the money to be funded to you but rather to a company owned by the founders all together.

 

The reason why you keep on ignoring me is because YOU ARE a Scamer!!

 

Moderator, if this guy keeps ignoring me, please Bann him before he brings people to believe his Lies!

 

So what you are saying is that you want to establish international company with 400 share holders ??? you have 5 years to do that ??? from what you are afraid - from loosing 100$ in the worst case or 200 $ ??? in the forex you lost until now probably much more and for nothing.