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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

i have read The Collective Fx.com

 

they told us that their demo server and live server will have exactly same performance

 

i think their idea have the same point with what we are going to do...

 

what do you think guys....?

 

:oops: :">

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

They look like the sort of thing that people have been searching for, nice find cmsindo.

 

I think that the more providers out there like this the better. I'm still very interested in what progressapama has in the works and can wait for it to all piece together.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Hello guys,I am using a russian broker that maybe you have not try yet. It is the biggest broker in Russia and it accepts to open an ECN account without limited deposit amount,so you can open ecn account even with 10$. I am using this for the last 2 months without problems.The commision of this is 5% and the spread is lower than 1 sometimes.Of course they are using MT4 and they accept paypal,moneybookers and some other ways like wire tranfer etc. The platform it is directly connected to the Currenex,so it is very fast the signal and the order's execution. I don't know if this can help you and I don't know any other details for filters and aquariums.. :P If you want to have a look and download a demo, this link will drive you to the specific place.

 

http://www.brocompany.com/trading-platform/

 

Choose the Broco Investor platform,as this one is the ECN

The Broco Trader one is not ecn.

 

Just my 2 cents..

Arvacon

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Everyone who had an account in Broco is running away. It is nothing than the worst kind of bucket shop. And it is very small, not the biggest, but could be the smallest in Russia.

Now they increased the stop - limit distance to 55 pips for EURGBP!!! and will increase nighttime(their nighttime) spreads to 8 pips. They reload servers a few times a day and manipulate data to such extend that it is funny to watch.

But thank you for the recommendation.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

1. Receiving Account for Clients funds which are immediately transfered to the Brokerage account

2. Brokerage Account with the Liquidity Provider Pool

progressapama,

 

I don't understand.

 

Are you going to create a broker or manage fund?

 

Broker meaning that the clients could trade by him/herself.

 

Manage fund meaning that you collect the money from clients and you trade the money, not the clients.

 

Forgive me for being a dumb blonde, but I don't understand what you are trying to achieve here.

 

Regards,

Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai.

Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

i have read The Collective Fx.com

 

they told us that their demo server and live server will have exactly same performance

 

i think their idea have the same point with what we are going to do...

 

what do you think guys....?

 

:oops: :">

 

I have a live account with them. Spread is fine but ISEA didn’t’ work better there than with other brokers.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Sorry OT post:

 

as you might notice drforex007 hasn't been logged in recently...

 

I, drforex, is the same guy. I was changing the email on my profile (drforex007) and I stuffed up... cannot log in again. Kardel asked me to register a new username and here I am!!

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Progressapama,

 

I don't want to get confrontational at all, but since you are taking on the responsibility of creating a brokerage and collecting tens of thousands of dollars from all of us, I believe it is incumbent upon yourself to provide some additional self-disclosure.

 

You talk about having a background in the banking world. You have talked about currently having an institutional account with FXCM, which requires a $25,000 minimum balance at all times. And yet, looking over your post history on this forum, you've spent most of your time requesting and discussing cracked/pirated/decompiled/illegal/free versions of software, some of which (MegaDroid) is available for a paltry $97 with an iron clad 60 day refund guarantee from ClickBank.

 

To me, this does not add up. Why would someone with your background in banking and finance, with over $25,000 sitting in a forex account at FXCM, need to beg for free versions of EAs and indicators? Can you explain to us and make some sense out of all this please? Because I really want to believe you, but at the moment I'm having a hard time of it.

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Everyone who had an account in Broco is running away. It is nothing than the worst kind of bucket shop. And it is very small, not the biggest, but could be the smallest in Russia.

Now they increased the stop - limit distance to 55 pips for EURGBP!!! and will increase nighttime(their nighttime) spreads to 8 pips. They reload servers a few times a day and manipulate data to such extend that it is funny to watch.

But thank you for the recommendation.

 

 

What do you mean the accounts running away?? I have a live account there and I am doing manual scalping. I dont understand you. I have not any commons with the company and I dont want to make an advertisment of them.I just dont have problem with them until now. If you know something serious about them,make your words more clear,because I have my money there and I dont want to loose them.But I have talk with them a lot of times from skype and I have not any problems with this live account.

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I mean what I said. They are no ECN. They are a small bucket shop. They never had and never will have a PayPal account. PayPal wont trust them. Tomorrow they will change the spreads. Tried to do that last 2 weeks ago, than reversed, now will do it again. 2 weeks ago they have changed the "minimum distance" for stops and limits to 55 pips!!

I have an account with them from the time when they were WHS. than they closed, than they opened again. They operate from an office size of apartment, and have nothing except a web site... Should I go on?

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

1. Receiving Account for Clients funds which are immediately transfered to the Brokerage account

2. Brokerage Account with the Liquidity Provider Pool

progressapama,

 

I don't understand.

 

Are you going to create a broker or manage fund?

 

Broker meaning that the clients could trade by him/herself.

 

Manage fund meaning that you collect the money from clients and you trade the money, not the clients.

 

Forgive me for being a dumb blonde, but I don't understand what you are trying to achieve here.

 

Regards,

 

There are going to be

 

1. Business Account for Client Funds

 

2. Brokerage Account at the LIQUIDITY Provider.

 

Since we are just starting our Brokerage The Liquidity Providers do not allow Direct wire Transfers of Clients Funds to the Brokerage account for a few weeks to see if we are increasing our trades and meeting our traded volume.

 

Once we have finalized the Volume being traded and established a good business relationship then they will allow direct transfers to Our Brokerage account and then credit it to individual trading accounts ( This will speed up things )

 

So for the Time Being all trading funds from the Clients will be transfered to Account 1 and then transfered to brokerage account ( This will add 24 ot 48 Hours ) for funds to show up in your account.

 

NOTE: i will not be managing anyone's funds . All funds will be trading funds and each Client or member will be trading his own funds and managing his own funds during trading. I will be doing the Administration to make sure everything is working for our Members only

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I mean what I said. They are no ECN. They are a small bucket shop. They never had and never will have a PayPal account. PayPal wont trust them. Tomorrow they will change the spreads. Tried to do that last 2 weeks ago, than reversed, now will do it again. 2 weeks ago they have changed the "minimum distance" for stops and limits to 55 pips!!

I have an account with them from the time when they were WHS. than they closed, than they opened again. They operate from an office size of apartment, and have nothing except a web site... Should I go on?

 

 

How do you know about their offices,are you from Russia? What does it mean that paypal doesnt trust them,everyone can have a paypal account for his business I guess.. Which broker is safer and better for you?

I thought that broco was a big company in Russia,as I have seen from some forums,they have take also some awards for their services etc.. at 2008 they won the Broker of the year award at the Russian Forex Expo.

You make me worry now.

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NOTE: i will not be managing anyone's funds . All funds will be trading funds and each Client or member will be trading his own funds and managing his own funds during trading. I will be doing the Administration to make sure everything is working for our Members only

I c.

 

So, can anybody join your brokerage account? You said about only selected 400 people. I get confused here.

 

Regards,

Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai.

Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William... I think the more members from this forum join in for the start-up of this brokerage thing the merrier.. it will keep the start-up low (fairly distributed among the start-up members) and...

 

more members means more trading volume each month the club can get... meeting the brokerage conditions.. :)

 

William (as the moderator of this forum).. may you can help out to spread the proposal to our forum members.. that would speed up the poll setup.. :shand: thanks in advance... just my 2 cents

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NOTE: i will not be managing anyone's funds . All funds will be trading funds and each Client or member will be trading his own funds and managing his own funds during trading. I will be doing the Administration to make sure everything is working for our Members only

I c.

 

So, can anybody join your brokerage account? You said about only selected 400 people. I get confused here.

 

Regards,

 

YES , any one who is interested and willing to contribute. After we are up and running then Only MEMBERS will be getting the benefits of the 4 Conditions i stated before.

 

If you are non member and you want to join you will have to pay a fee to join in order to get the same benefits as members. But also to attract other clients who are not members we will offer LOW SPREADS and HEDGING.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William... I think the more members from this forum join in for the start-up of this brokerage thing the merrier.. it will keep the start-up low (fairly distributed among the start-up members) and...

 

more members means more trading volume each month the club can get... meeting the brokerage conditions.. :)

 

William (as the moderator of this forum).. may you can help out to spread the proposal to our forum members.. that would speed up the poll setup.. :shand: thanks in advance... just my 2 cents

To tell you the truth...

 

I'm not interested in this kind of things. I don't even see a clear end in this kind of "transaction".

 

Who the interbank is? Who will counter the order from us? Is it respectable broker?

 

I don't understand how it works.

 

I understand quite well how brokerage companies work in Indonesia, as I'm involved quite deep in the system development and order flows. As far as I know. Even in forex, there should be 2 sides of transaction. Usually the big brokers take no responsibility by charging over to interbank markets who will take the other side of our transaction.

 

If the orders are pulled in a pool normally that would be market markers or ECN. market markers are enemies for us small traders. ECN are practically useless brokers.

 

So, what kind of brokerage will this be?

 

tight spread, real interbank price execute, fast execution, no freeze level, etc etc. You think you can win against the interbank markets?

 

The only way to win against the interbank markets is by joining them. Being one of the member of interbank markets. And that takes a whole different levels of capital. That's how the billionaire scalpers tackle the DAX (search this forum for the true story). How are our tiny bitty capital compete with the interbank markets?

 

I don't understand how this works. Whether you guys ALL too naive or i'm just too stupid to understand.

 

I'm asking more information not because I'm interested in this. But because I want to know whether this is another fraud or a real thing. I want to protect members of this forum who don't know how the real system of order flowing in this forex spot market.

 

From this little information I'm actually thinking of banning people involved in this brokerage thinggy.

 

So, please more information. Please state it as clear as possible, as my english is weak and i'm a little bit moron.

 

Regards,

Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai.

Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko.

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William... I think the more members from this forum join in for the start-up of this brokerage thing the merrier.. it will keep the start-up low (fairly distributed among the start-up members) and...

 

more members means more trading volume each month the club can get... meeting the brokerage conditions.. :)

 

William (as the moderator of this forum).. may you can help out to spread the proposal to our forum members.. that would speed up the poll setup.. :shand: thanks in advance... just my 2 cents

To tell you the truth...

 

I'm not interested in this kind of things. I don't even see a clear end in this kind of "transaction".

 

Who the interbank is? Who will counter the order from us? Is it respectable broker?

 

I don't understand how it works.

 

I understand quite well how brokerage companies work in Indonesia, as I'm involved quite deep in the system development and order flows. As far as I know. Even in forex, there should be 2 sides of transaction. Usually the big brokers take no responsibility by charging over to interbank markets who will take the other side of our transaction.

 

If the orders are pulled in a pool normally that would be market markers or ECN. market markers are enemies for us small traders. ECN are practically useless brokers.

 

So, what kind of brokerage will this be?

 

tight spread, real interbank price execute, fast execution, no freeze level, etc etc. You think you can win against the interbank markets?

 

The only way to win against the interbank markets is by joining them. Being one of the member of interbank markets. And that takes a whole different levels of capital. That's how the billionaire scalpers tackle the DAX (search this forum for the true story). How are our tiny bitty capital compete with the interbank markets?

 

I don't understand how this works. Whether you guys ALL too naive or i'm just too stupid to understand.

 

I'm asking more information not because I'm interested in this. But because I want to know whether this is another fraud or a real thing. I want to protect members of this forum who don't know how the real system of order flowing in this forex spot market.

 

From this little information I'm actually thinking of banning people involved in this brokerage thinggy.

 

So, please more information. Please state it as clear as possible, as my english is weak and i'm a little bit moron.

 

Regards,

 

 

Good advice william..... :arrow:

My english too...very2 bad.... :cry:

I'm my own enemy.....
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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

William I believe the idea is similar to this site

 

http://www.thecollectivefx.com/index.html

 

I am interested to see the trade volumes the liquidity provider requires to satisfy their side.

 

The idea is out of the box, the specific quota's need to be assessed to be assured that it is an attainable target. It could be quite lucrative if set up correctly, I think it needs to be set up properly not quickly

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Re: [Req] ISEA (Investiva Super Expert Advisor)

 

Progressapama,

 

I don't want to get confrontational at all, but since you are taking on the responsibility of creating a brokerage and collecting tens of thousands of dollars from all of us, I believe it is incumbent upon yourself to provide some additional self-disclosure.

 

You talk about having a background in the banking world. You have talked about currently having an institutional account with FXCM, which requires a $25,000 minimum balance at all times. And yet, looking over your post history on this forum, you've spent most of your time requesting and discussing cracked/pirated/decompiled/illegal/free versions of software, some of which (MegaDroid) is available for a paltry $97 with an iron clad 60 day refund guarantee from ClickBank.

 

To me, this does not add up. Why would someone with your background in banking and finance, with over $25,000 sitting in a forex account at FXCM, need to beg for free versions of EAs and indicators? Can you explain to us and make some sense out of all this please? Because I really want to believe you, but at the moment I'm having a hard time of it.

 

Very valid points, I think everyone would benefit from knowing more information to satisfy our due dillgence before considering any monetary contributions.

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