⭐ birt Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I backtested v3 (Dragon_v3_universal_sl.mq4) with default settings except 0.1 lots fixed, no MM, trading 20-22 GMT on EURCHF M15 between 2007.04 and 2009.09 using the Dukascopy tick data and the result is quite impressive. Used JadeFX so it's using their spread. Full report: http://sharebee.com/f8061cdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loulou69 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS hi birt ! the backtest is very impressive !!!! you tried it in live ? did you try the withdraw with jade ? because i want to open with them !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ birt Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS hi birt ! the backtest is very impressive !!!! Yeah, totally agree, it looks pretty good. you tried it in live ? No, haven't tried it on a live account. did you try the withdraw with jade ? because i want to open with them !! Don't have a live account at JadeFX but I actually might open one there, given what I've read about them. Unlike many other brokers, there are not so many people complaining about them. However, they're not NFA/CFTC regulated despite being US-based so that's a rather big minus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasmead Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Yesterdays DEMO results V3 Risk 50 Max Trades 5. Broker FXDD (+3 GMT) Trade times 22-2 16841772 2009.09.02 22:05 buy 0.70 eurusd 1.4270 1.4238 1.4285 2009.09.02 22:07 1.4273 0.00 0.00 0.00 21.00 3714433 DragonPips 16842880 2009.09.02 22:24 sell 0.70 eurchf 1.5136 1.5168 1.5126 2009.09.02 22:31 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 19.82 3714431 DragonPips 16842886 2009.09.02 22:24 sell 0.50 eurchf 1.5136 1.5168 1.5126 2009.09.02 22:34 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 14.16 3714431 DragonPips 16842900 2009.09.02 22:24 sell 0.50 eurchf 1.5135 1.5167 1.5126 2009.09.02 22:36 1.5132 0.00 0.00 0.00 14.15 3714431 DragonPips 16842919 2009.09.02 22:24 sell 0.40 eurchf 1.5135 1.5167 1.5126 2009.09.02 22:37 1.5132 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.33 3714431 DragonPips 16842956 2009.09.02 22:25 sell 0.50 gbpusd 1.6288 1.6313 0.0000 2009.09.02 22:46 1.6283 0.00 0.00 0.00 25.00 371443 DragonPips 16845062 2009.09.02 23:05 buy 0.70 eurusd 1.4268 1.4243 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:29 1.4270 0.00 0.00 -2.73 14.00 3714431 DragonPips 16845073 2009.09.02 23:05 buy 0.70 eurusd 1.4268 1.4236 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:32 1.4271 0.00 0.00 -2.73 21.00 3714433 DragonPips 16846831 2009.09.02 23:49 buy 0.40 eurchf 1.5130 1.5105 1.5136 2009.09.03 00:15 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.31 3714431 DragonPips 16848377 2009.09.03 00:17 sell 0.40 eurchf 1.5134 1.5161 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:32 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.77 3714431 DragonPips 16848561 2009.09.03 00:23 sell 0.40 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:32 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.77 3714431 DragonPips 16849457 2009.09.03 00:57 buy 0.30 eurusd 1.4262 1.4236 1.4268 2009.09.03 01:14 1.4266 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 3714432 DragonPips 16849820 2009.09.03 01:01 sell 0.20 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:37 1.5132 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.77 3714431 DragonPips 16849843 2009.09.03 01:02 sell 0.20 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:37 1.5132 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.77 3714431 DragonPips 16849910 2009.09.03 01:05 sell 0.20 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:37 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.89 3714431 DragonPips 16850369 2009.09.03 01:23 sell 0.20 eurusd 1.4269 1.4293 1.4258 2009.09.03 03:29 1.4266 0.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 3714431 DragonPips 16850570 2009.09.03 01:28 sell 0.20 gbpusd 1.6275 1.6307 1.6264 2009.09.03 01:55 1.6272 0.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 3714431 DragonPips 16850687 2009.09.03 01:32 sell 0.40 eurusd 1.4270 1.4302 1.4258 2009.09.03 03:29 1.4267 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.00 3714431 DragonPips 16850719 2009.09.03 01:33 sell 0.30 eurusd 1.4271 1.4303 1.4258 2009.09.03 03:14 1.4268 0.00 0.00 0.00 9.00 3714431 DragonPips 16851009 2009.09.03 01:39 sell 0.20 eurusd 1.4273 1.4305 1.4258 2009.09.03 03:13 1.4270 0.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 3714431 DragonPips 16851057 2009.09.03 01:39 sell 0.20 eurusd 1.4273 1.4305 1.4258 2009.09.03 03:13 1.4270 0.00 0.00 0.00 6.00 3714431 DragonPips cheers N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasmead Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Yesterdays DEMO results V4 Risk 50 Max Trades 5. Broker FXDD (+3 GMT) Trade times 22-2 Note some interesting differences in how the two version trade 16609199 2009.09.01 01:59 sell 0.80 eurusd 1.4338 1.4370 1.4327 2009.09.01 03:27 1.4335 0.00 0.00 0.00 24.00 3714431 DragonPips 16609586 2009.09.01 02:01 sell 0.70 eurusd 1.4338 1.4370 1.4327 2009.09.01 03:27 1.4335 0.00 0.00 0.00 21.00 3714431 DragonPips 16841703 2009.09.02 22:04 buy 0.90 eurusd 1.4270 1.4238 1.4285 2009.09.02 22:08 1.4274 0.00 0.00 0.00 36.00 3714433 Dragonpips 16842955 2009.09.02 22:25 sell 1.40 gbpusd 1.6288 1.6320 0.0000 2009.09.02 22:47 1.6282 0.00 0.00 0.00 84.00 371443 Dragonpips 16845117 2009.09.02 23:06 buy 0.90 eurusd 1.4267 1.4235 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:23 1.4270 0.00 0.00 -3.50 27.00 3714431 Dragonpips 16845126 2009.09.02 23:06 buy 0.90 eurusd 1.4267 1.4235 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:24 1.4270 0.00 0.00 -3.50 27.00 3714433 Dragonpips 16846820 2009.09.02 23:49 buy 0.60 eurchf 1.5130 1.5098 1.5136 2009.09.03 00:17 1.5134 0.00 0.00 0.00 22.63 3714431 Dragonpips 16847063 2009.09.02 23:56 buy 0.40 eurchf 1.5130 1.5094 1.5136 2009.09.03 01:00 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.31 3714432 Dragonpips 16848381 2009.09.03 00:17 sell 0.50 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 02:23 1.5139 0.00 0.00 0.00 -23.58 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16848571 2009.09.03 00:23 sell 0.50 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 02:23 1.5139 0.00 0.00 0.00 -23.58 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16849417 2009.09.03 00:57 buy 0.40 eurusd 1.4262 1.4229 1.4268 2009.09.03 01:14 1.4267 0.00 0.00 0.00 20.00 3714432 Dragonpips 16849822 2009.09.03 01:01 sell 0.30 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 02:23 1.5139 0.00 0.00 0.00 -14.14 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16849840 2009.09.03 01:02 sell 0.20 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 02:23 1.5139 0.00 0.00 0.00 -9.44 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16849902 2009.09.03 01:05 sell 0.20 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 02:23 1.5139 0.00 0.00 0.00 -9.44 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16850372 2009.09.03 01:23 sell 0.30 eurusd 1.4269 1.4300 1.4258 2009.09.03 02:23 1.4282 0.00 0.00 0.00 -39.00 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16850434 2009.09.03 01:24 sell 0.60 eurusd 1.4270 1.4302 1.4258 2009.09.03 02:23 1.4282 0.00 0.00 0.00 -72.00 3714431 so: 99.8%/3222.6/3229.1 [stopou 16850572 2009.09.03 01:28 sell 0.40 gbpusd 1.6275 1.6307 1.6264 2009.09.03 01:59 1.6271 0.00 0.00 0.00 16.00 3714431 Dragonpips 16850588 2009.09.03 01:29 sell 0.40 eurusd 1.4269 1.4301 1.4258 2009.09.03 02:23 1.4282 0.00 0.00 0.00 -52.00 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16850609 2009.09.03 01:29 sell 0.30 eurusd 1.4269 1.4301 1.4258 2009.09.03 02:23 1.4282 0.00 0.00 0.00 -39.00 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] 16850616 2009.09.03 01:29 sell 0.20 eurusd 1.4269 1.4301 1.4258 2009.09.03 02:23 1.4282 0.00 0.00 0.00 -26.00 3714431 Dragonpips [stopout] Note these stopouts were closed automatically by the EA Hope this is useful cheers N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman2 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Have anyone a live experience with DP on FXDDif so pls holla V4 universal almost done,please am very sorry for the delay.I'll be posting it live. I want to say thanks to the following people for their great contribution to this thread.And to those i have not mentioned,i still say thanks.I believe we can still tweak DP a little futher * drbaz2008 * Iceman777 * jason_za1 * kangweigf21 * LiukK * nick0016 * ryaz * save2009 * Starting * trading4living * wirastomo * nicholasmead * chankl78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasmead Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Yesterdays LIVE results V3 Risk 25 Max Trades 3. Broker FXDD (+3 GMT) Trade times 23-1 Note just eurusd and eurchf traded live plus more conservative trade times. 2083345516 2009.09.02 23:05 buy 0.60 eurusd 1.4268 1.4236 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:29 1.4269 0.00 0.00 -2.34 6.00 3714433 DragonPips 2083345545 2009.09.02 23:06 buy 0.50 eurusd 1.4267 1.4242 1.4292 2009.09.03 01:23 1.4270 0.00 0.00 -1.95 15.00 3714431 DragonPips 2083345987 2009.09.02 23:49 buy 0.40 eurchf 1.5130 1.5105 1.5136 2009.09.03 00:17 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.31 3714431 DragonPips 2083346075 2009.09.02 23:56 buy 0.30 eurchf 1.5130 1.5101 1.5136 2009.09.03 00:17 1.5134 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.31 3714432 DragonPips 2083346608 2009.09.03 00:17 sell 0.30 eurchf 1.5134 1.5161 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:32 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.83 3714431 DragonPips 2083346680 2009.09.03 00:23 sell 0.30 eurchf 1.5134 1.5166 1.5125 2009.09.03 03:32 1.5133 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.83 3714431 DragonPips cheers N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS 2670718 2009.09.03 19:12 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51358 1.51609 1.51292 2009.09.03 19:12 1.51381 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.17 2670840 2009.09.03 19:27 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51360 1.51610 1.51292 2009.09.03 19:27 1.51389 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.73 2670916 2009.09.03 19:35 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51382 1.51695 1.51301 2009.09.03 19:35 1.51406 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.26 2670922 2009.09.03 19:35 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51381 1.51631 1.51301 2009.09.03 19:35 1.51412 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.91 2671078 2009.09.03 20:00 sell 0.10 audnzdjfx 1.23930 1.24214 1.23698 2009.09.03 21:31 1.23943 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -0.88 2671548 2009.09.03 20:51 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51410 1.51660 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:51 1.51436 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.45 2671550 2009.09.03 20:51 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51408 1.51685 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:51 1.51441 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -3.11 2671579 2009.09.03 20:53 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51435 1.51747 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:53 1.51451 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -1.51 2672218 2009.09.03 21:53 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51448 1.51698 1.51349 2009.09.03 21:54 1.51451 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -0.28 I do not understand... My Jade Demo today..... Same Setting.... But, i also try to trade audnzd.... But, I do not know y it open & close almost with the same min.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save2009 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS After mt4stat server down this my stat on mt4live fxopen broker. http://save2009.mt4live.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemaneu Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS 2670718 2009.09.03 19:12 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51358 1.51609 1.51292 2009.09.03 19:12 1.51381 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.17 2670840 2009.09.03 19:27 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51360 1.51610 1.51292 2009.09.03 19:27 1.51389 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.73 2670916 2009.09.03 19:35 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51382 1.51695 1.51301 2009.09.03 19:35 1.51406 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.26 2670922 2009.09.03 19:35 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51381 1.51631 1.51301 2009.09.03 19:35 1.51412 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.91 2671078 2009.09.03 20:00 sell 0.10 audnzdjfx 1.23930 1.24214 1.23698 2009.09.03 21:31 1.23943 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -0.88 2671548 2009.09.03 20:51 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51410 1.51660 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:51 1.51436 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -2.45 2671550 2009.09.03 20:51 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51408 1.51685 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:51 1.51441 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -3.11 2671579 2009.09.03 20:53 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51435 1.51747 1.51349 2009.09.03 20:53 1.51451 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -1.51 2672218 2009.09.03 21:53 sell 0.10 eurchfjfx 1.51448 1.51698 1.51349 2009.09.03 21:54 1.51451 -0.50 0.00 0.00 -0.28 I do not understand... My Jade Demo today..... Same Setting.... But, i also try to trade audnzd.... But, I do not know y it open & close almost with the same min.... Why was your trade open and close at the same time? Could there be a bug in the dragonpips EA? Which version are you using? Can you try demo the latest version to see if the same thing happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS icemaneu, I am using Dragonpips_july_v3_universal.mq4. It could be bug in Dragonpips.. But I do not know... 2nd time it happen to me... What is the latest version now?? My live trade with forex.com uk live.... 7209034 2009.09.03 18:28 sell 0.07 eurchf 1.51359 1.51609 1.51293 2009.09.03 18:56 1.51395 0.00 0.00 0.00 -2.37 7209355 2009.09.03 18:45 sell 0.04 eurchf 1.51394 1.51707 1.51307 2009.09.03 18:56 1.51394 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Still have 2 open trades. 7210684 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.06 eurchf 1.51399 1.51715 1.51307 1.51488 0.00 0.00 0.00 -5.02 7210708 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.04 eurchf 1.51404 1.51649 1.51307 1.51488 0.00 0.00 0.00 -3.16 Same Settings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemaneu Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS icemaneu, I am using Dragonpips_july_v3_universal.mq4. It could be bug in Dragonpips.. But I do not know... 2nd time it happen to me... What is the latest version now?? My live trade with forex.com uk live.... 7209034 2009.09.03 18:28 sell 0.07 eurchf 1.51359 1.51609 1.51293 2009.09.03 18:56 1.51395 0.00 0.00 0.00 -2.37 7209355 2009.09.03 18:45 sell 0.04 eurchf 1.51394 1.51707 1.51307 2009.09.03 18:56 1.51394 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Still have 2 open trades. 7210684 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.06 eurchf 1.51399 1.51715 1.51307 1.51488 0.00 0.00 0.00 -5.02 7210708 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.04 eurchf 1.51404 1.51649 1.51307 1.51488 0.00 0.00 0.00 -3.16 Same Settings.... It is either a bug in dragonpips EA or something wrong with jadeFX mt4. I am just guessing. Cos there is no such happening in other broker's mt4. The one I am currently still testing is AlpariUK demo. I stopped the live trade because I was stopped out from a ridiculous wide spread of 25pips in my live AlpariUK account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Used JadeFX so it's using their spreadNice result. What was the value of the spread? I've found in the past that the EURCHF and EURGBP quiet time scalping strategies are very sensitive to spread, so it's important to quote the spread that was used during backtests. Check hex offset FC in the EURCHF FXT file (4 byte integer). If you generated the FXT file on a connected terminal and the price feed has variable spread, there is a chance that the spread that was stored into the FXT file was a very small one, which can result in very good but unrealistic results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chankl78 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS 7210684 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.06 eurchf 1.51399 1.51715 1.51350 2009.09.04 05:56 1.51439 0.00 0.00 0.00 -2.27 7210708 2009.09.03 19:51 sell 0.04 eurchf 1.51404 1.51649 1.51350 2009.09.04 05:56 1.51444 0.00 0.00 0.00 -1.51 Finally my Forex com UK Live 2 open trades ended in a lost..... Is it because this week is the 1st week of the month? That's y it so strange for this EA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick4x Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS Can someone explain why the version posted as v4 here is written v042009 which means "April 2009" when the true v4 is supposed to be dated v081509 which is "August 15, 2009"... I think there is a mistake and that it's not the last v4 but one of the first version instead... Can someone confirm this? Well, it seems to be an April version, so it is an older one than the August version. It might work well though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman777 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS What makes you think Tick4x that this is definately not V4? It backtests better than V3 but I would love someone to confirm this too I know Mecman2 is working hard behind the scenes to post V4 educated so we should know then the differences Also, there is V4 and then there is Xtreme edition, I would love to try both for a spin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasmead Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I am testing V3 extreme against V4 with identical settings, pretty much default risk 50 max trades 5. I am running 22-2 on FXDD +3GMT They do trade differently but it is too early to draw any conclusions as far as profitability. I am entering each trade, time and currency into a spreadsheet should have some interesting numbers soon. I am trying to see if on trades better than another over different time frames and or currencies. They both trade sunday but not friday. I was also demoing the 2-3 hour but it had big losses. 21 through 22 and 1 through 2 have had only a few losses in these timeframes but lots of wins so I will continue to test. I live trade 23-1 with excellent results. regards N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman777 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I think the only reason V4 seems to backtest slightly better (only testing EURCHF) 22-24 (GMT +2 broker) is because of the larger TP 6 vs 5 and the larger SL 32 vs 25 Not sure if it has anything to do with the trade mechanics being any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover1713006058 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS any kind soul can upload v4 other than f0rexsh@ring? ^:)^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS any kind soul can upload v4 other than f0rexsh@ring? ^:)^ here you go.. http://[email protected]/703416 enjoy... \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikon Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS any kind soul can upload v4 other than f0rexsh@ring? ^:)^ Here you go : hxxp://[email protected]/file/130773833/4cb6a337/Dr_agon_pi_ps_v4.html :-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mograst Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS can somone please suggest with versione works better on live? I currently have different versions here but not sure wich is best on live. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUINERTY2 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I have good results with the previous version of dragonpips. My backtests are awful with this new version (v4 2009) so i don't want to use it on forward test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcorbier Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS I have good results with the previous version of dragonpips. My backtests are awful with this new version (v4 2009) so i don't want to use it on forward test Same here, I get terrible results with v4. Sticking with v3 for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mograst Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: DRAGONPIPS ok I attached a previouse versione of DP (seems to be a version from aprile 2009) on Eur/usd but didn't have any trade this evaning. Anyone else? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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