Darkz0r

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thanks a lot, so this sumo is the same concepts of the original one??

 

thanks

Can't say for sure, but I remember about 4 years ago people were claiming he was trading like Kewltech.

Bear in mind though, I haven't really delve too much into Kewltech's stuff, but it didn't seem so simple... so chances are that they don't trade the same, but rather similarly.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_A_L2ue7uGROIVq2dIjfidkfGCOo2xr/view?usp=share_link

 

There are 3 volumes. Is Volume 4 missing?

Yes, that's all I could find unfortunately.

No it's a course from a trader back in the day named Kewltech.

Dopetrades (tradersumo) is selling a course that is essentially a repackage of Kewltech.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_A_L2ue7uGROIVq2dIjfidkfGCOo2xr/view?usp=share_link

Here's the eBook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nqFsZj8xMO1UxqRuESmfAmPKT2jg4jqx/view?usp=share_link

There was 4 videos that were recommended to watch before the ebook, but unfortunately I do not have those anymore and the provided links are unavailable.

does the audio work? it was not in a couple of files I checked.

I just checked and the audio is working fine on VLC and PotPlayer, it doesn't seem to be working on Windows Media Player though, might be because of the audio codec (Opus). If you're on Android or iOS maybe try another video player.

I watched few starting files and audio worked fine. I did not like the course presentation (nothing new- same copy from one another). I have removed the files. Again thanks to Darkz0r for sharing the course.

You're welcome mate!

Thanks for taking the time to upload this Darkz0r... if this is only the SMC part, may I ask what is in the rest of the course for the other 30 GB?

The other part of the course is focused on Ellliot Waves and is taught by the other 2 mentors, Blake Olson and Alessio Barretta (Barrett).

Augusto (Smart Money Source) also used to trade Elliot Waves but has since then changed to SMC + Wyckoff & VSA, which is the part I uploaded on the telegram channel above.

It should be working now.

First, what do you mean by "Not working" ? Are you getting any error message?

I just tried joining from a different account and it did work, perhaps try on another device or using telegram web.

It should be working now.

It's working mate, I just checked it.

Ok, so I uploaded the SMC portion of the VVS academy to telegram.

Here is the link: https://t.me/+xz0CxaFiiPc1ZTU5

Nora Bystra Personal Coaching:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xvYukez1QiLHDYEuTadv1TYGEEzGoash/view?usp=sharing

Nope. I've been out of the country and just recently got back.

Even with insaneike tips (thanks man!) the files are still too big for any of these file hosts, so I'll have to see what I'll do.

Forexia #Signature Trade Course

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wsEDhQZvnhGx_blTgQ5LIQ6Wma6n1F0H/view?usp=sharing

Golden Pips Generator - Golden Eyes Course (Student of Forexia)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gylo2unBCoiQOSbQvYXQo9qIke-RqOg7/view?usp=sharing

I really don´t care about the "time and effort" they spent copying and pasting stuff to call it their own...

Hmm... didn't mean it like that. I was just talking purely from a karma perspective, from what separates those who pirate these courses from those who create them through their own time and effort, of course this doesn't apply to everyone, some are indeed straight up copycats.

The great counterweight of FREE WILL is personal responsibility, so unless you were held at gunpoint to buy their course or they promised you profitability, it's your responsability to keep it to yourself unless told otherwise. Except of course, if you believe karma is determined by our own personal morals (Which I do, to some extend).

But mate, the only reason they are selling this stuff and coming up with mentorship, private this private that is because they are not profitable.

This is where we have to agree to disagree and that's fine, because that's your personal experience and I don't blame you. I'd be skeptical too if it weren't for validating experiences I've had.

Tell me just one guy who showed his balance, his track record, his account history...

Augusto from VVS has showed his myfxbook before and I believe he also showed it in one of his public youtube videos. Levi from ProficientFX also showed his myfxbook during one of our private classes. Apparently Tanz from Vertex did too (can't confirm this one as I didn't see it with my own eyes).

Show me one guy out there selling this stuff who flipped a US$50 -100 dollar account into 100K.

 

The ones who did are anonymous, in the shadows...

Yes, you are right they are in the shadows, but they charge for the mentorship as well! Just ask AKFX. (the guy who teaches SMC on youtube for free)

What is the 1st thing those guys will say when you ask them to show their account, history, if they are profitable? "I don´t have anything to prove to you" LMAO! Of course they do, they have to put their money where their mouth is.

Agreed 100%. I dont really know why its a big problem in this industry. Pretty normal standard in other industries.

Do you know why real traders, profitable traders wouldn´t charge for teaching? First of course because they don´t need the money, and second because they don´t give a s*** about the money. Successful trader do not love money, they love trading, the game.

Debatable. Alfonso Moreno is profitable and he doesn't like trading. He also charges you for his services.

Despite what we think of these guys, they put their time and effort into these courses, yet people who bought the courses out of their own FREE WILL, are sharing them around without the author's permission. How should karma balance that out then?

Or does that not count because those people should not be charging for it in the first place? So is it our personal morals that determine "karma" after all? If that's the case then who's not to say the mentor believe he is doing the right thing? After all, he promised a course and a mentorship, he didn't promise to make you profitable, because well... that depends on the student himself! In many cases these leaks actually help promote their mentorships, how does one explain that? Good karma I suppose!

Now, I am thankful for all these courses being available for free. Many of us have been scammed for thousands already, too many dream sellers who just want to suck us dry. So at best you can use these resources to learn it all on your own and at worst, it helps you find someone worthy of your time and energy. But to sit here and act entitled on judge others for what they consider their time and effort is worth, all the while we're using our time pirating their courses and claiming we can learn it all for free on the internet when we're still here looking for new bits of info on their courses, that's not fair either man...

PS: I just waited before posting to see how many people would like your post... because they just proved precisely the kind of mindset/behavior I talked in my previous post. People just can't help themselves, oh well.

All these methods are different perspectives of the same thing. All of them overlap SnR, SnD, SMC.

However some of them resonate better with some people and helps them make sense of the others.

As a matter of fact, I could probably upload VVS Academy if you want. It's updated up to August 2021.

The whole course is almost 90GB, and the SMC stuff alone is 55GB. So that's going to be a problem.

 

@Darkz0r By the way, what do you think of the VVS course, compared to the rest, eg: Flipping, Precision, Phantom?

I stand by my initial remarks. I was subscribed to VVS for 4 months.

Augusto is actually one of the only mentors I have seen the myfxbook and call/manage trades live. He is also a good teacher, which is also important!

He doesn't focus much on high RR trades though, he's more into high win ratio, which honestly is better for your psychology.

The reason I stopped using his strategy was because I found the strategy too complex for me (not his fault, he made VSA/Wyckoff as simple as it can be) and I was interested in something more simple, like Vertex.

If you watch his last youtube videos you will have an idea of how he approaches the market.

I don't know why people say Vertex is for newbies or its too basic.

My friend dropped out of medical school, with just a few months left when he became consistently profitable. And although we are now trading in a different way, he was trading very similarly to Vertex back then. I was also doing good to some extend, but I was going through some personal issues and got messed up psychologically, so I stopped trading for a while.

Flipping Markets, Precision markets and Fractal Markets are also good. Granted Flipping's voice/accent gets on my nerves lol, but it's actually decent if you can get through that.

They have some subtle differences when it comes to Market Structure more precisely what they consider to be points of structure (which in turn influences how a Break of Structure happens). Also Vertex gives you more of a flexibility with the timeframes, whereas others use specific timeframes. But all in all they're very similar.

I don't like Phantom much, it's all over the place in my opinion, but if you want an all-around knowledge it's ok.

That being said...

For VSA/Wyckoff + SMC = VVS Academy

For just SMC = Vertex/Flipping Markets/Precision markets/Fractal Markets.

I'll say this though, regardless of the strategy you use, the most important thing will always be the timeframes. The higher the timeframe, the stronger a level will be. It just then becomes a matter of confirming that level on a lower timeframe, because what happens in a lower timeframe will also happen in a higher timeframe, as long as both are in sync and you can't really know this if you don't have the overall picture.

I don´t think it´s fair to charge. They most likely learned for free too, and even if they didn´t , it´s not like they need the money. If you are a profitable trader in the markets, you reached the financial freedom, now help others and don´t be a greedy bastard.

 

There is no need for 1 to 1 stuff, that is ridiculous. Are people so useless they need someone to sit in their lap while they chew stuff and spit in their mouths?

I agree. Nothing will ever replace your own hard work and as I always say, let the charts be your mentor.

But you know, it could be a good option if you just want to speed up your learning process. It's not always easy to put everything in one course... these markets are always changing and although the strategy remains the same, sometimes it might be a bit tricky to apply it under certain circumstances.

Also consider the following...

People have a need to "fit in" and be part of a "tribe". And I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but forums/chats are mostly filled with people who are lost and have no direction. The best way for people to fit in is to imitate those around them. Even if you had no problems before, if you spend a long enough time in a forum/chat full of lost people you yourself will become lost. The subconscious mind will determine its the best way for you to fit in.

Tell me how many people you see, in this forum or otherwise, jumping from one strategy to another, looking for the next big thing, the new holy grail... does it ever end?

Forums/chats also tend to encourage the behavior of "failure" and it is contagious. Just look for it in your personal reality, don't take my word for it. How many people you see blaming the mentors, strategies, indicators and whatnot? and how many follow right after in such scapegoating?

Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with "feedback" which is learning from making a mistake, failure is a state of mind of always being hopeless and blaming others, and it acts as a filter to your reality, it will filter out everything that doesn't align with this state of mind, no matter how obvious the solution might be.

But I'll leave it at that as I know this might trigger people off and I'm not particularly interested in dealing with others emotional projections.

That being said, perhaps it would be best for these people to find someone who has done what they want to do and learn from them, focusing on 1 thing at a time and not being a jack of all trades.

Do you really think that a successful trader wants to waste his precious free time babysitting noobs?

Of course not. But is it really wasting time if you're making risk-free money and you like teaching?

Those guys putting together the courses, updating youtube channels constantely with new videos, having to manage youtube, facebook, instagram tweeter, telegram , discord groups lol, look at all the time they have to spend tending for subscribers/students, where is their time to analyze the markets, trade, enjoy life and family in free time?

Not disagreeing with you here. Most of them do this and it makes you wonder...

But you can also go the other way around and say: "if they built a nice portfolio already and don't need to trade as often... why can't they invest in other activities to generate passive income?"

Either way, this is why I say to find a mentor who does live trading and trade management, this way it doesn't matter what you think the reason is, it just matters that he is legit...

Thanks buddy. Seriously he learned from Phantom? I thought that their course was bad too - bad delivery and sound like a bunch of kids jus reselling the method.

Yes,he probably learned from others as well, but this is his reference.

It's not that they explain it in a bad way, they're just all over the place... it's a bit like ICT really, but in a more refined and (much) simplified way, they teach you the basics and then it's your job to figure out how to put it all together... and each of their mentors trade in different way apparently.

Did not like the flipping markets stuff. I mean it is the same content, but the delivery is bad. The accent of the guy doesn´t help too.

Hmm... what do you mean by "bad" delivery?

Honestly, I find that most of these new SMC course sellers (lol) did a pretty good job narrowing down these methods. If you look at Wyckoff, Elliot Waves and Supply and Demand courses, their delivery is way worse. The only thing that compares would be retail Support and Resistance, but that is because in most cases they are straight up scams.

Either way, Flipping Markets has a PDF where he explains his whole strategy, but I'm guessing you're more interested in the live sessions though... Have you tried Precision Markets? He's not a student of Fractal Markets, but they studied together.

I did in fact develop my own "extra trick" to filter/choose order blocks or at least give way more confidence to enter the trade (by using one indicator). I just won´t reveal it as of now because I am pretty sure it´s gonna be copied and resold.

 

Before doing that I wanna create a youtube channel with a trade vlog where I will disclose how I use it, for free. It won´t be sales pitch for anything, just to help other people. But I wanna make sure it´s available for free before the copycats start reselling as their own, so people will know they are being scammed if they paid for it. I always had this idea of providing something for free, given I practically learned everything for free too (big thanks to the internet). Just my way of saying thanks.

Awesome, I'm glad that you found your edge! And yes, that's a great idea. Most of these guys also learned it for free from these leaked courses, that's why they all coincidentally started remaking their courses at the same time and using the same terms (Inducements, CHoCH - Mr. Wyckoff says hello, lol). Have you noticed how they don't even finish their courses? They just keep very slowly updating the sections over the course of months, dragging it as much as they can so that people keep renewing their membership subscriptions.

They're always looking for the next big thing, just wait until they find out about Malaysian SnR... you will see how quickly they all will switch their strategies and start trashing SMC traders to sell their courses.

I don´t think that profitable traders who decide to provide teaching material should be charging for this stuff, it´s like peanuts compared to the market gains. If those guys try so hard to sell courses, to me it just means they are not profitable traders, they make money selling this stuff. They can know the method or several methods by heart inside out, know everything about the markets, but just can´t make money trading. Ask one of those guys to show his account balance and history.... They won´t.

I agree to some extend, everyone can make a course. Anyone is profitable in hindsight and calling "potential levels" is not enough either.

But if you are an actual MENTOR and not just a course/illusion seller, who trades live and manages his trades live, who does 1 on 1, wouldn't it be fair to charge for your time?

Yes, you are right, they are different. If I find it I'll make sure to post it here.

They are selling it on Shopee Malaysia so it's only a question of time.