Jeannette, sorry, if you don't like my links. I said several times, I like the course, but it is better, to have a wider look.
Velez is the founder of pristine, which is a good site. But 2 emas, some candle formations and some tricks: do they make you a good trader?
If so many think it is scam, everybody should make his own thoughts. You should not blame us for making our own research. Jeannette, I think, it's childish to tell just because of some links: "Never again will I share any iFundTraders prop training materials anymore."
Why isn't it possible to watch and discuss the system here with pros and cons?
The basics were taught before in 2005 by Velez
http://www.scribd.cXm/doc/60925085/Oliver-Velez-Swing-Trading-Tactics
I would like to watch the futures course or other Velez Stuff, if someone has it.