@misalto, they all have symbols that display on the chart, but if you look at the indicator in the Data Display Tab, none are displayed. If you double click on any symbol, nothing appears, which means that you may not be able use them in StrategyBuilder or similar algo builders. Although, TDU does permit you to create your own strategies with their TDUAlgoStudioPro. If you have any suggestions, I appreciate your input as I am always in learning mode.