⭐ tick Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Anyone has this? h@@ps://hftalgo.gumroad.com/l/jrnlr stalling on CB https://clubbingbuy.com/threads/spread-trading-tools-futures-trading-spread-tools-nt8.10154/ Would use with this new price $20 SpreadProfessor Futures Spread Trading Course CB: https://clubbingbuy.com/threads/spreadprofessor-futures-spread-trading-course.11088/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traderbeauty Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Hi Tick Thank you so much for all the indicators you shared with us. I like clubbing but not sure if that spread thing is any good- do you think it can give an edge ? ⭐ tick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 11 Author Report Share Posted February 11 (edited) Hi Tick Thank you so much for all the indicators you shared with us. I like clubbing but not sure if that spread thing is any good- do you think it can give an edge ? The tool main pro is showing when the spread is distant from its mean. It also remove the tedious execution/trade management for multiple instruments. The 2nd example video shows it looks for spreads and ranks them too. Other than that would need testing the extra features, but the previous ones are already great value. With spreads, basic strategy is reversion to the mean. Because the instruments are highly correlated. You look for when the spread curve is overextended in relation to its mean. Then directionlessly long/short the pair. Then wait for the spread curve to get close-r to its mean. Example 2: https://ibb.co/LzsfT1H 1st leg curve (NQ) is close to 2nd leg curve (ES). Spread curve(7744) is (still) distant enough from its mean (7720). Spread curve is above its mean. Trade plan: Short the faster instrument (NQ) vs long the slower instrument (ES). Entry: 7744 (Spread Curve) Exit: 7720 (Spread Curve). Example 1: https://ibb.co/TmbQSTR 1st leg curve (CL) is distant to 2nd leg curve (RB). Spread curve(-14.54) is (still) distant enough from its mean (-14.8). Spread curve is above its mean. Trade plan: Short the upper curve instrument (CL) vs long the lower curve instrument (RB). Entry: -14.54 (Spread Curve) Exit: -14.74 (Spread Curve, the closer to the mean the better). Spreads pros: Directionless. Less Margin. Less risk. Spreads Cons: Risk: Don't know when the spread will get closer to it's mean. Can only guess the extended sweet spot distance to its mean. More commissions. Very basic understanding everyone should get of spread above. More should be available from the SpreadProfessor Futures Spread Trading Course. Also sums the basic concepts: https://clubbingbuy.com/threads/spre...-2#post-326628 Edited February 12 by tick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traderbeauty Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 thanks will check it out ⭐ tick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 More about spreads Ebook Overview: A guide to spread trading futures Introduction to Spread Trading Rajen Kapadia https://www.youtube.com/@r4jen A Guide to Spread Trading Futures Kindle Edition https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Spread-.../dp/B00DUDSEGQ ⭐ goldeneagle1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Mestor Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I have the spread tool mentioned above and although it does its job of sending orders, I think it is very limited when it comes to choosing assets. Maybe the code can be modified for other assets, I don't know but I think it greatly limits the operation. The course, however, seems very complete, thanks for mentioning it. Beyond trading futures on intraday charts, spreads are a very good and profitable option but they require a learning period like everything in life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 I have the spread tool mentioned above and although it does its job of sending orders, I think it is very limited when it comes to choosing assets. Maybe the code can be modified for other assets, I don't know but I think it greatly limits the operation. The course, however, seems very complete, thanks for mentioning it. Beyond trading futures on intraday charts, spreads are a very good and profitable option but they require a learning period like everything in life... Thanks for the experience feedback. Do you have the latest one with 12 default instruments? It should not be too hard to add new instruments in the code it we can get them in an enum / dropdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Mestor Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Thanks for the experience feedback. Do you have the latest one with 12 default instruments? It should not be too hard to add new instruments in the code it we can get them in an enum / dropdown. I think it's the same one Update 11/14/2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 I think it's the same one Update 11/14/2022 Could you get the Added Trailing Stop, Bid Ask Spread Width for entry, XML update ** Update 5/8/2023 h@@ps://hftalgo.gumroad.com/l/jrnlr It should mean less code to update with the latest one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Mestor Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) Could you get the Added Trailing Stop, Bid Ask Spread Width for entry, XML update ** Update 5/8/2023 h@@ps://hftalgo.gumroad.com/l/jrnlr It should mean less code to update with the latest one. Yes is this: ** Update 11/14/2022 Added Trailing Stop, Bid Ask Spread Width for entry, XML update *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*--*-* ** Update 5/8/2023 Easier to Install, updated Readme https://www.sendspace.com/file/xba95z Edited February 12 by Mestor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 Yes is this: ** Update 11/14/2022 Added Trailing Stop, Bid Ask Spread Width for entry, XML update *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*--*-* ** Update 5/8/2023 Easier to Install, updated Readme https://www.sendspace.com/file/xba95z Good, can you check the code for "enum"? should look like this https://www.w3schools.com/cs/cs_enums.php if not there, look for "instrument" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Mestor Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Good, can you check the code for "enum"? should look like this https://www.w3schools.com/cs/cs_enums.php if not there, look for "instrument" I don't know if you mean a drop-down list... I don't understand much about C# code but it seems to me that here are buttons (1,2,3) that make a call to the .xml file (link1) and that file is the one that contains the instruments https://www.sendspace.com/file/jugop8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 I don't know if you mean a drop-down list... I don't understand much about C# code but it seems to me that here are buttons (1,2,3) that make a call to the .xml file (link1) and that file is the one that contains the instruments https://www.sendspace.com/file/jugop8 ++++++++ Good. From the middle screenshot looks like there's a specific .cs template script per instruments pair (SpreadTraderNQES.cs, SpreadTraderNQYM.cs,SpreadeTraderESYM.cs, etc. for the 9 remaining instruments pair). Are those or similar .cs template script files present in the project? The right side screenshot looks like just for alerts. Moreover are the Leg1: and Leg2: fileds read only or can they be entered custom instruments values/have you tried custom values in these and checked if they get charted in NT? If read only, and there's indeed custom template for each instrument pair that'd be more work. Would either need changing the script to an enum/dropdown model if possible/more convenient, or adding custom new scripts for new instruments pair one by one. Did you get any user guide with the project? Any instructions about updating the instruments expiration (NQ 02-23 etc.)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ Mestor Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 ++++++++ Good. From the middle screenshot looks like there's a specific .cs template script per instruments pair (SpreadTraderNQES.cs, SpreadTraderNQYM.cs,SpreadeTraderESYM.cs, etc. for the 9 remaining instruments pair). Are those or similar .cs template script files present in the project? The right side screenshot looks like just for alerts. Moreover are the Leg1: and Leg2: fileds read only or can they be entered custom instruments values/have you tried custom values in these and checked if they get charted in NT? If read only, and there's indeed custom template for each instrument pair that'd be more work. Would either need changing the script to an enum/dropdown model if possible/more convenient, or adding custom new scripts for new instruments pair one by one. Did you get any user guide with the project? Any instructions about updating the instruments expiration (NQ 02-23 etc.)? There is a very basic pdf that details each button and content but without going in depth into how and where to make the modifications, it is more of a basic user guide The tool works well and does its job of sending the spread to NT8. It's not perfect and sometimes you need to restart like most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ tick Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 There is a very basic pdf that details each button and content but without going in depth into how and where to make the modifications, it is more of a basic user guide The tool works well and does its job of sending the spread to NT8. It's not perfect and sometimes you need to restart like most... ++++++++ ok. Does the chart plot the curves when you change symbols and expiry dates in the Leg1 and leg2 fields? For example Leg1: ZN 03-24 Leg2: ZN 06-24 like this https://ibb.co/R7v3GSg If it plots the curves, do trades execute when you place some? For example with Leg1: ZN 03-24 Leg2: ZN 06-24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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