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Hello Guys I thought this thread could be very usefull for you Traders

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I have been testing over 100+ trading methodology + Building Algorythms for 5 years now

I learned that on all thoses sellers/providers there is only 1% that are actually really making money.

Think about this , why would someone that make money would share his secret sauce ?? they would of course keep it for themselves.

it means 98.5% on internet are bullshit and scammers trying to sell high priced Automated system.

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The things you must ask before buying a Trading system/automated system

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1)Ask for Account Statement wich has money and real trades , no better proof than a trader that trade his own money right ?

2)Get systems Educated before buying them , God thanks that I found this forum 8-) Thanks Indo-investasi you saved me lot of money.

3)Don't hope making money with a small 10k usd starting capital , you need at least 50kusd for risk managment and adequate position sizing.

4)VERY IMPORTANT most sellers will show show you backtesting results WITHOUT Slippages+Commissions this impact dramticly the performances results changing from Smooth positive eq curve to negative and poor eq curve , Don't get mistaken or scammed guys.

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The more Trades you have and the more it will impact the profitability

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example: let's say you have a system that from 2010 to 2018 has 500 trades

slippages is : when you enter a position you never get filled the same price as what backtesting results says

it means you need to add 1 ticks to 2 in futures & about 0.10 cents if you trade Stocks to reflect the reality

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Slippages

Futures:1 ticks in Crude oil futures = 10$ , 10$ entry + 10$ exit means 20$/trade you multiply by 500 trades that's 10 000$ just in slippage

Stocks:to be determined

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Commissions

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Futures:Commissions is the brokerage firm fees to allow you to enter into the position (depends on each brokerage firm)

in this example we are going to use 2,50$ fees per trades 2.50*500 =1250$

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Stocks: Lets say you trade a 100$/share stock x (stocks has per trade or per shares price bundle depends on the package you took with your broker)

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Example: 50k/100 = 500 shares you can take a maxmium of 500 shares for a 50k capital

500shares*2.50 +0.05*500shares*500 trades =13250$

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0.05 is 5 cents per shares as most brokers charge

500 shares / trade * 500 trades (2010 to 2018) =

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Total slippages + commissions paid in crude oil futures : -10250$ to the overall strategy performance

Total Slippages + commisisons paid in 100$/share (stock X):-13250$ to the overall strategy performance

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Key points

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1)Strategy robustness + profitability profit factor at least 1.6 ,drawdown must be under 10k for a 50k capital that's 20% drawdown (don't forget this)

Backtesing must at lwast have 300 Trades minimum so you can start considering the strategy

2) ALLWAYS Perform a Montecarlo Robustness Testing into a strategy(it randomise entries + pricing for calculating the robustness)

3) Preferably Have a Long & Short strategy that has at least 50/50 Long & shorts.

You can have long only strategy but make sure it has passed worst period like 2008 crisis

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4)Risk Managment** position sizing vs equity allocation Very important , it's actually more important than the strategy itself

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5)Hedging strategies in as the market goes up or down cause you never know allwyas remember that (Past results doesn't indicate futures results)

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Thanks for Reading & Happy Trading Guys :):)

Edited by xenonhd
  • 5 months later...
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ā€œBacktesing must at lwast have 300 Trades minimumā€

Isn't there some kind of association between the number of trades & other factors. eg if the win rate is high, and/or profit per trade is very even, are 300 simulated trades really necessary?

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