Ishtana Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I've been watching this item on ebay for a while now. I know it's new because I couldn't find any reference on it on the net. So I kept it on my watch list. And then suddenly it was gone and relisted, twice. Surely someone has bought it. Is it anyone of you guys? I was kinda convinced how he explains the market is moved by the major players, and how we should counter trade instead of with the trend. The seller also claims it can work both on Forex and Binary options. And the result on the page is pretty impressive. Any system that mentions how the big banks work pushes the right buttons for me, because I know for sure we as retail traders can't move price even a fraction of a pip. So it only makes sense to study how those who can move the price, move the price. Any share would be appreciated. Thanks. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380742489789?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380741022034?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 SELLER'S DESCRIPTION I’ve tried almost every single thing there is out there about forex, binary options, and spread betting: All kinds of trending, divergence, breakout, basket, S&R, PA, S&D system, and for BO: Hourly BO, end of day BO, 15 min, 30 min, 10 min, 60 second, Touch – No Touch, Ladder, Range, Above Below, Up or Down, BOM, Bet 365, and Banc De Binary, TradeRush, EZTrader, 24 Option, and the list goes on. I’m a forex/binary options junkie. If I reveal my username that I use in the forums, you would instantly recognize me as the one of the most experienced person on Binary Options, and later Forex. Most likely you’ve asked me in hundreds of PM I’ve received so far all these years in which I obliged to every single one of them. Why the majority of forex/binary options systems do not work? Because the sellers know you’re lazy, and they’re exploiting your desire for easy money. Instead of studying how the market works, you would rather follow an indicator and make an involuntary donation to the brokers. $47, $97, $197, I’ve seen them all. What revolutionizes my trading system and my profit is the understanding how the market really works. And out of this understanding I created my BOFX system. It is a system unlike any other systems because being profitable requires a complete and total change of mindset relative to common trading mindset. In essence, I'm not teaching you a system. I'm teaching you a skill to trade. This is a one-on-one coaching program. You'll never be successful using "systems" you buy from vendors, because you won't know how the market really works. Stop learning how to trade and focus on learning how the market really works. Once the latter is addressed, the former will fall in its place automatically. If I tell you the system in details, I will rob your chance of being profitable, because you will not believe it and you will return to your old system. You don't believe me? Here's one thing about my system: Trend trading, especially confirmed by indicators, is one of the riskiest forms of trading. By your entry, it would be too late. And what would be a small TP for the system would be a big SL for trend traders. That's why the system never trades WITH the trend. We only COUNTER trade the trend, because only the major players can reverse the trend, and it is apparent when they do so, but both traders and major players can contribute to the trend, hence the risk. You'll never know what the major players are doing DURING the trend. Scared? Is the concept against 99% of the textbook out there and you're not comfortable with it? Then this system is not for you. My BOFX system: It doesn’t involve fancy and colorful indicators. My system is not a black box system. You shouldn’t be a slave to indicators. You have to understand every single trade that you make. You would understand why, and have valid entry reason in every trade. You wouldn’t trade and hope that you win. You would trade because you know the market is likely to go their way. I think we are smarter than indicators that try to have control over our money. If you believe your indicator(s) works, then keep trading it. Uses 1H chart and 15 min chart, and for the BO part, we only use end-of-day expiry. Brokers love small time frame expiry options because that’s when the biggest noise happens and you’re most likely to be wrong and lose money. How many times price reverses just nearing the hour, the end of 15 min, the end of 1 second, right during the “lock-out” period? Trend takes time to develop and you’ll get whipped on both ways during its making. That’s why end of day options are more predictable. Focuses on currency trading. This system has not been tested to anything else, except precious metals. I’d rather focus and specialize my knowledge on forex rather than be jack-of-all-traders-master-of-none. Here’s my offer to you, the BOFX system: My complete set of MT4 trading system (indicators, and templates) + Trade manager EA, that you can use for forex, binary options, and spread betting. It is so robust. If you already know the direction of the price, then you could exploit it in any way you like. There will be NO MANUAL. The manual is my teaching. You have to understand the market to trade it. We’ll do a one-week Skype/e-mail session to make sure you trade with understanding and become a self-contained trader. Afterwards, it will be on correspondence by email basis. The training will be interactive. I won’t just share you a PDF file and wishes you well. I will personally commit my time and energy to make sure you understand the system. I will get you to do exercises. And if you pay attention, you’ll be ready to demo by the end of the week. This system is not for those who are looking for an easy buy or sell indicator. This is for serious traders who want to be profitable. All successful people in the world have one thing in common. They have mentors. As I have been mentored in the past, I will do the same. BONUS – A very useful statistical indicator that gives a different insight to the market that I created on my own. Valued at $99. See my other listing. Currently selling on its own for $39.95. One of the basic fundamental assumptions of technical analysis is that history tends to repeat itself in all financial instruments. That there are certain repeated patterns that we can use for our trading. And there is no denial that any market is cyclical because human behaviours are cyclical and humans act in herds. If you trade stocks you’ll have heard terms like presidential cycle, annual seasonality, the Halloween indicator, the January effect, the Lunar cycle, etc. All good traders know it. So if there is a repeated price movement patterns, it only makes sense to think that there is also a repeated, but different statistical patterns found in all financial instruments for the shortest to the longest term. FAQs for the skeptics Why are you selling it? Because it is not the Holy Grail. If it is, I wouldn’t be selling it. This simply works, and works consistently, but it doesn’t have a 100% winning rate. Look at the pictures attached. They are screenshot from my myfxbook page. That’s what you can expect to get from my system. The other reason is I’d like to supplement my trading income from teaching. And lastly, I would never stop learning, and by teaching, I’m learning. I’ve been scammed so many times, it’s not even funny. How do you know you’re genuine? I don’t want to scam you. What goes around comes around. I’ve been scammed several times myself and I truly hate it. This is plainly my research and findings. I didn’t invent this. If I did, you would have every reason not to believe me. Which broker will we be using? Any forex broker, and for BO any broker as long as they have end of day option (5 pm NY EST expiry). I’m NOT and DO NOT want to be affiliated with any vendors/brokers. Please don’t ask me which broker to use. I don’t want to recommend any forex/BO broker. Just find reputable one. Test by making a withdrawal after a small profit. So what actually is your strategy? We try to analyze how and when the major players trade and we follow them. Simple. But not easy. Where is the screenshot of your system? Again, we won’t trade indicators. There’s no point of me putting a screenshot of my system. You must not be convinced by the system from its looks. I would rather make my balance pretty than making my chart pretty. Do you provide refund? I do not provide refund. It is an excuse to get my system for free. It works, there is simply no excuse for a refund when the evidence of this system is so visual, so apparent, and so consistent. If you're looking for another clickbank product that you can get a refund of (sometimes, that is) then this system is not for you. Which currencies do you trade? Mostly majors. Stick with majors and move to crosses and commodities later on. If you don’t master the majors, you cannot trade the crosses. Can I share this system? I don’t want this to get leaked out to too many people. You’re not doing yourself a favor if you share my system. One, you’ll be doing theft, which is illegal, and the negative energy will not be very supportive to your subconscious mind. And trading is a very negative place. So many corpses of dead accounts lying on the chart. You need all the positive energy to trade successfully. Two, once the broker knows that majority of their client is trading at the same direction, at the same time, they will close the loophole. They will say they have “liquidity” issue where in fact it is their form of Stop loss to prevent too many wining trades at one time. It has happened so many times before. Read it on the forum and find out why sharing hurts in forex/BO. So keep it to yourself. Share the money you make from it, but don’t share the system. To a broker whose aim, job, and incentive is to take your money away, being loud is the ******est thing you can do. I think $199.95 is a bit too much. If you think $199.95 is too much for a lifetime of income, then this is not for you. If you cannot afford it then don’t buy it. If you want discount then don’t ask for it. If you want this for free than you don’t deserve it. A successful person doesn’t make excuses. He/she knows the price of success and willing to pay them. You must respect the wisdom I’ve gathered so far. I have to see a form of commitment that you will respect my teaching and put it to a good use. If you think you can just enrol in my program, not doing any work and expect easy money coming into your account, then this is not for you. This system is way easier if compared to other systems out there. And in all honesty, do you really think all these worth only $199.95? Other vendors sell programs for thousands without any mention or understanding of how the major players work. Looking at my current students, I now realize how powerful this understanding is. And it is wrong to sell it at such a low price. This is classified bank information people pay thousands for. It must be valued at least at $1,000. So this is the last chance for you to grab the program at current price. The next listing is guaranteed to be priced higher. My program is not available anywhere on the internet. Not on forums. Not on forex reseller shops. If you have any questions, please ask and I'll put the answer for everyone to see as I have nothing to hide. This is one question from a buyer who is now my student: Hi, Thanks for your question, and here are my answers: - I live in spain, Can I do this course from this country? My current students are from France and Indonesia. They are doing fine. You can talk to them how the program has helped in Skype once you join the group. Where you are doesn't matter at all. What matters is whether you're committed to finish it through the course or not. - My first language is not english, it is spanish, I can read and write english very well but I have a lot of problems to understand english voices in videos or live (skype), could the teaching sessions be done in skype but with text chat, not voice? do you think this can be a problem? Both my current students are not English native speakers. Again, you can speak with them on the Skype group. The teaching can be done solely with text chat and not voice. This is not a problem at all. - How many sessions and at what time in GMT time is there in the course? This is individualized course. I work with you one-by-one. There is no number of sessions. I'll be with you until you get it and until you don't need me anymore. I did say it would be a week on average, but my Indonesian student managed to absorb 1/3 of the course in a day. Smart cookie. - could you show to me a live statement (myfxbook) with the results of the trades of the last months (august and september)? I've added the latest statement on the pics, I also added my LIVE trade that I did in front of my student yesterday on USD/CAD. My student now knows exactly why I did it, and why it was a successful trade. I realize now how valuable this course is, and you'll be the last student to be paying $149.95 for it. The next course would be selling at higher price to justify the content I'm teaching. Everyone starts by losing money in financial market. Me too. Until I stop learning about how to trade, and about how the market actually works. Address the latter, and the former will fall in place automatically. Here's another question posted to me today: Hi. I'm highly interested in purchasing your BOFX system and mentorship. I'm fairly new to forex and binary options and I must admit, I consider myself a slow learner. I would like to confirm that after purchasing this, you will mentor me no matter how long it takes for me to learn the system. I am motivated but unlike most people it would take me more time than the average student. Another question I had was about your price. I noticed that it is 199.95 au but in your discription it says 149.95 au. Would you please honor the lower price? I just have enough for this. Because of my financial position, I would not be able to pay the listing price. I look forward to working with you and eagerly await your reply. Kindest regards Hi, Thank you for your email. Yes, I did say it would be a minimum of 1 week, but I will stay in contact with you until you get it. But I also said this is relatively simple if compared to other systems out there, so don't expect rocket science. It is a simple logic if you think about it. I agree everyone learns at different paces, that's why this is an individualized course. It's one on one. Mind you trading is a skill. This is why you would never be successful if you only purchase "systems." Ask my other students in the Skype group and you'll understand why this is the case. One of my students manages to finish half of the course in 2 days, and already made a successful demo trade within these 2 days. Crazy. Ask him when you meet him in the Skype group. This is why I realized my coaching program is too valuable to be selling at such a low price. The course is valued at least at $1,000. The first 3 students are incredibly lucky to have it at $149. This is a classified bank information you won't get anywhere else on the internet. My 3 current students said the same thing. So the current price of $199.95 is firm. It is already way below its value. If you cannot afford it now, then wait until you can get another $50. I will be around. But don't wait too long. When this listing ends, I'm planning to slowly increase the price up to $500 and whoever gets it first will be paying less than that. I think it is wrong to sell it at such a low price. The decision is in your hands. Whether you want to turn your trading around or not. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimiK Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 I am also attracted to methods which take into consideration the big players moving the market. I am interested to find out if this system shows a different way to exploit this. bumping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillykiddo Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 anyone interested on group purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimiK Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 I may be depending on how many join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1713006413 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Depends on who is handling the group purchase....I've had people that i paid for and promised to reimburse me...and just "disappeared".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimiK Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I was thinking the same thing. Also I noticed that the original offer has ended and the price has increased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillykiddo Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 well if all of you guys agree i can take the responsibility to do group purchase... and best i can offer you guys is to trust me i wont run away with your money... interested people can pm me then may be we can make a group and make it bigger for future purchases too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1713006413 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 SK...your Inbox is full...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillykiddo Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 sorry rick ... now it is emptyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogs Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Price on the latest listing has now risen to $500. Some people tend to take advantage of the demand/interest - a bit like currency trading prices. Was thinking about it at the lower price but now out of the question especially as no one who is using this has actually come forward to rate it good or bad even if they wont share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Lol... I guess it's just like other products. When it works, everybody stays quiet. Maybe 2/10 talk about it. When it doesn't, 8/10 would be back here in the forum within hours, screaming "REPAINTS!", "SCAMMER", etc. I've been in forex forums for a while now, especially at WWI. And I think this seems to be the pattern. If everyone stays quiet about something, you can bet the stuff works. Can we still group buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1713006413 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Ishtana, was thinking the exact same thing.....pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hm.. That only makes the 3 of us. You know, I actually already know how the banks trade. I don't use indicators on my trading anymore. So the reason why I'm requesting this is purely because I'm curious as to what else is there about bank manipulation that I don't know yet. I don't want to stop learning is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The vendor now gives 100% money back guarantee. I might check it out. ⭐ juisen25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ jasper2603 Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 I am also interested in the group buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoender Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'm in for it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogs Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 It appears Ishtana has taken responsibility for it being their "baby" on another forum (WWI) and admits to just taking advantage of as they put it "free advertising". Shame IF that is the case - it wouldn't be the first or the last but they haven't tried to scam anyone and no one who bought it came shouting SCAM so maybe it works. In which case you cannot blame them for the cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfx2 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 please share thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marthart Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's 1 on 1 training there aren't even any PDF's with the course. So nothing to group buy or share. Mart however I bet there will now follow loads of "Please share" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 If it is a scam, it should be known all over the place since there are 7 students already, and some of them are from forums. I've given you guys 100% money back guarantee. You've got nothing to lose. And all accusations of scamming, in anyway, has been found not to be true. Who on earth is ****** enough to sell a working strategy? If you think 100% of sellers are scammers, then it's your choice. But in my particular case, I honestly need the money from teaching to grow my trading account and be financially independent. As you've read on WWI, only noobs think that you'll be a millionaire in a month with a successful strategy. With $200 deposit and low income like myself, would you be able to pay about $4000 worth of expenses per month from trading (rent, insurance, groceries, food, gas, electricity, water, social, petrol, taxi, bus, emergency, etc)? Although I've managed to more than quadrupled my account, and as much as I respect every cent that is in my possession, my trading account doesn't FEED me. If I make a big chuck of withdrawal, I'll have to get back to trading 0.1 lot, and I dread that. It's not worth my time. I'm offering this in goodwill. Take it or leave it. No need to harm me any in anyway as I have not harmed you in anyway. gringoh and K12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Graduate testimonial, not my word. You can see this yourself on the other forum: Final Update: I have finally completed the course, and as far as I am concerned this is definitely not a scam. I found quite a few gems of knowledge and a very profitable and consistent method of trading. They say don't try pick tops and bottoms , but this method practically does that without trying to pick them. We don't try pick tops and bottoms, we follow the rules and it inevitably puts us in at the start of new ''trends''. BOFX teaches well and shows a sincere willingness to want his students to understand the course, and he continues posting in the group chat with his thoughts and why he has taken any trades, so that one can keep learning. I can honestly say that I don't need to look for any other ''system'' out there, I will be using this for my trading career since there is no point in finding any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ juisen25 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Graduate testimonial, not my word. You can see this yourself on the other forum: Final Update: I have finally completed the course, and as far as I am concerned this is definitely not a scam. I found quite a few gems of knowledge and a very profitable and consistent method of trading. They say don't try pick tops and bottoms , but this method practically does that without trying to pick them. We don't try pick tops and bottoms, we follow the rules and it inevitably puts us in at the start of new ''trends''. BOFX teaches well and shows a sincere willingness to want his students to understand the course, and he continues posting in the group chat with his thoughts and why he has taken any trades, so that one can keep learning. I can honestly say that I don't need to look for any other ''system'' out there, I will be using this for my trading career since there is no point in finding any other. Same quoting by Dimeetz on wwi. Whats going about this system I cant make it !!!!! Its here Final Update: I have finally completed the course, and as far as I am concerned this is definitely not a scam. I found quite a few gems of knowledge and a very profitable and consistent method of trading. They say don't try pick tops and bottoms , but this method practically does that without trying to pick them. We don't try pick tops and bottoms, we follow the rules and it inevitably puts us in at the start of new ''trends''. BOFX teaches well and shows a sincere willingness to want his students to understand the course, and he continues posting in the group chat with his thoughts and why he has taken any trades, so that one can keep learning. I can honestly say that I don't need to look for any other ''system'' out there, I will be using this for my trading career since there is no point in finding any other. Edited October 25, 2013 by juisen25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtana Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Exactly why I said it's my graduate testimonial. Dimeetz is my student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1713006413 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ishtana....are you the vendor for this product from ebay? Earlier posts by you suggest that you were an interested buyer. If you are the vendor just come clean so as to stop the confusion in this thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillykiddo Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Hi rick he did come clean on WWI forum rick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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