⭐ laser1000it Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hello, I use CQG data-feed. Unfortunately I have more problem in this last days. Ex: Dax and CL not working. Is there any other data provider whit demo Subscription ? Thanks in advance 4u replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaron Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Zen Fire. You can get it from zen-fire.com directly or via a broker like mirus futures. ⭐ laser1000it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ bluepilot Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Zen Fire. You can get it from zen-fire.com directly or via a broker like mirus futures. Hi, I tried to connext with zenfire and mirus and I can't connect with Fdax. I spoke with CQG and they said: "problems with eurex I'll try to resolve it as soon as possible".... ⭐ laser1000it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ laser1000it Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Zen Fire. You can get it from zen-fire.com directly or via a broker like mirus futures. Thanks. But ZF detected the Mac address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradernate Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Try Amp futures....RT data and limited hassles for a 500 us deposit. Dax may add a slightly small monthly charge FYI-good luck. Thanks. But ZF detected the Mac address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaron Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Thanks. But ZF detected the Mac address. And? Does that cause any issues? I use CQG too now, but i remember zen was working fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfutrader Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 And? Does that cause any issues? I use CQG too now, but i remember zen was working fine too. Yes, that is an issue, because you cannot renew the ZF account. The detect that you already were on a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaron Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yes, that is an issue, because you cannot renew the ZF account. The detect that you already were on a trial. Did you try with zenfire demo from different brokers (amp, mirus)? I used to use them alternatively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ laser1000it Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yes, that is an issue, because you cannot renew the ZF account. The detect that you already were on a trial. I agree whit kungfutrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaron Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I tested zenfire and you are right, they somehow detect that you were on a trial. But i am not sure they use MAC. I used a software to change my mac address and it was still not working. Maybe they look at NT machine ID, which i don;t think can be spoofed or changed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfutrader Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I tested zenfire and you are right, they somehow detect that you were on a trial. But i am not sure they use MAC. I used a software to change my mac address and it was still not working. Maybe they look at NT machine ID, which i don;t think can be spoofed or changed.. As far as I know they use the NT machine ID (there is a thread about it in the NT forum). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 One thing to keep in mind about the cqg-amp data feed is that it's not actual cqg data. It's apparently just an interactivedata feed. Interactive Data is the company that owns esignal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukem Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 One thing to keep in mind about the cqg-amp data feed is that it's not actual cqg data. It's apparently just an interactivedata feed. Interactive Data is the company that owns esignal. John1, My apologies if I sound ignorant but whats the difference. Im just tying to get educated on the assorted data feeds and how it affects an individuals live trading. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 John1, My apologies if I sound ignorant but whats the difference. Im just tying to get educated on the assorted data feeds and how it affects an individuals live trading. Thanks CQG is a professional quality data-feed on par with Bloomberg. The whole cqg platform that you get with the Integrated Client ($600 a month) is commonly used in conjunction with an institutional grade ems like GS Rediplus or MS(Morgan Stanley) Passport. The data is known to be top-notch and it very rarely lags during major news like economic events. The interactive-data feed on the other hand is the same as esignal and it is also the typical broker feed, it is pretty congested and is of sub-par quality relative to cqg/bloomberg,etc.. Nukem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ osijek1289 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 If you check the NT forums, they have confirmed that the CQG feed provided as part of the AMP package is quasi-CQG: the live data does indeed come from the CQG folks. But, when you need historical data (ie., when NT boots, or when you ask for a historical data chart refresh) the historical data gets sent from a server farm that NT runs themselves, by storing the live data on most popular instruments. A 100% real CQG datafeed will run you hundreds of $$$ per month. NT used to have issues with hours of the historical data getting lost, and thus if that happened during the London session and you start your NT pre-NY, you did not have historical data until NT restored it on the upcoming weekend, at which point it is almost useless to you. But, they have seemingly resolved this with an API update a few weeks ago. And, on the realtime data, I have not seen issues on the realtime CL feed nor most other majors for weeks now, as pushed to me via Amp infrastructure. Overall the Amp/CQG/NT partnership is quite reasonable for most traders. I believe they offer Zenfire for free as well, but could hit you with a $25/month charge if you don't take actual trades, but still have a funded account. I use the CQG/Amp combination, and it has been rock solid for weeks, certainly on CL, and my machine runs straight through for 5 days. The good thing about pro feeds like CQG, Zenfire is that they are not filtered, meaning they do not approximate volume or ticks, and you get all trade information. This is crucial if you use something like volume footprint charts. If you have a provider like Interactive Brokers, they do not send you all the ticks, and thus you cannot see where nor how many buyers & sellers were at which level. Also, even pro datafeeds have outage & infrastructure problems - nobody can offer a 100% uptime guarantee. Update: lol, just seeing this is almost a year old thread ... CL could well have been problematic 11 months ago, but certainly has been great in recent weeks and everything else above stands as current information. tradernate and Nukem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukem Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 If you check the NT forums, they have confirmed that the CQG feed provided as part of the AMP package is quasi-CQG: the live data does indeed come from the CQG folks. But, when you need historical data (ie., when NT boots, or when you ask for a historical data chart refresh) the historical data gets sent from a server farm that NT runs themselves, by storing the live data on most popular instruments. A 100% real CQG datafeed will run you hundreds of $$$ per month. osijek1289, I appreciate your in depth review of Amp/CQG/NT partnership especially since that was the direction I was considering. The PFG fiasco has made me cautious and leery of these folks. (brokers) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradernate Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Osijek1289-I have the same data setup has you and see the same results. I like CQG, and execute on a transact DOM....they both are step for step with each other. If you check the NT forums, they have confirmed that the CQG feed provided as part of the AMP package is quasi-CQG: the live data does indeed come from the CQG folks. But, when you need historical data (ie., when NT boots, or when you ask for a historical data chart refresh) the historical data gets sent from a server farm that NT runs themselves, by storing the live data on most popular instruments. A 100% real CQG datafeed will run you hundreds of $$$ per month. NT used to have issues with hours of the historical data getting lost, and thus if that happened during the London session and you start your NT pre-NY, you did not have historical data until NT restored it on the upcoming weekend, at which point it is almost useless to you. But, they have seemingly resolved this with an API update a few weeks ago. And, on the realtime data, I have not seen issues on the realtime CL feed nor most other majors for weeks now, as pushed to me via Amp infrastructure. Overall the Amp/CQG/NT partnership is quite reasonable for most traders. I believe they offer Zenfire for free as well, but could hit you with a $25/month charge if you don't take actual trades, but still have a funded account. I use the CQG/Amp combination, and it has been rock solid for weeks, certainly on CL, and my machine runs straight through for 5 days. The good thing about pro feeds like CQG, Zenfire is that they are not filtered, meaning they do not approximate volume or ticks, and you get all trade information. This is crucial if you use something like volume footprint charts. If you have a provider like Interactive Brokers, they do not send you all the ticks, and thus you cannot see where nor how many buyers & sellers were at which level. Also, even pro datafeeds have outage & infrastructure problems - nobody can offer a 100% uptime guarantee. Update: lol, just seeing this is almost a year old thread ... CL could well have been problematic 11 months ago, but certainly has been great in recent weeks and everything else above stands as current information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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