elam forex system

[Guest pipbust]

I know the results posted on hes web are different than hes fxbook stats but still there is NO solid proof that it is a scam, hes making money trading and you can clearly see it on fxbook, hes signals also seem to be profitable, 10 days bonnie lol 10days means nothing, try 1 year than give us ur feedback.

Hi hankt80,

I see myfxbook of Elam and it looks good, have you tested their signals?. Don't wast your time with bonnie he banned me from WWI because I said that I had a bad experience with his system Forex Goiler. I don't understand how the owner of a forum sells his system on it directly, that's not normal because forum mod's and admin's must be neutral and not only advertiser of their systems to bump money...

[bonnie12345]

There will be always haters no matter what we do,,,,,WWI is the bst example of it...http://www.myfxbook.com/members/EFS1/elam-forex-system/478862

 

Ask them to verify their Live account at myfxbook. Without this it means nothing because you can run demos as fake Real accounts here.

 

I know the results posted on hes web are different than hes fxbook stats but still there is NO solid proof that it is a scam, hes making money trading and you can clearly see it on fxbook, hes signals also seem to be profitable, 10 days bonnie lol 10days means nothing, try 1 year than give us ur feedback.

 

See above

 

Hi hankt80,

I see myfxbook of Elam and it looks good, have you tested their signals?. Don't wast your time with bonnie he banned me from WWI because I said that I had a bad experience with his system Forex Goiler. I don't understand how the owner of a forum sells his system on it directly, that's not normal because forum mod's and admin's must be neutral and not only advertiser of their systems to bump money...

 

Oh looky. A new member joins the forum and has something bad to say..............................yawn :-ss

 

Can we please stay "on topic" pipbust

 

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[Guest pipbust]

Ask them to verify their Live account at myfxbook. Without this it means nothing because you can run demos as fake Real accounts here.

 

 

 

See above

 

 

 

Oh looky. A new member joins the forum and has something bad to say..............................yawn :-ss

 

Can we please stay "on topic" pipbust

 

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In your site of forexgoiler you have NO Myfxbook and no verified statments , the only thing to bump money is to put your indicator in your forum and sell it on it, this your business i don't care but know just that when you ban systems or members from your forum who are not satisfied of your indicator this not serious and it shows that you are in forum only to sell and not to share....

[bonnie12345]

In your site of forexgoiler you have NO Myfxbook and no verified statments , the only thing to bump money is to put your indicator in your forum and sell it on it, this your business i don't care but know just that when you ban systems or members from your forum who are not satisfied of your indicator this not serious and it shows that you are in forum only to sell and not to share....

 

My site and my forum eh?

 

 

I think you have me confused with someone else as I do not own this goiler nor do I have ANY site my friend so please stay on topic and get your FACTS correct before posting

 

 

And I would assume goiler has no myfxbook or verified account because it is an indicator and not an automated system

 

 

If you want a copy of goiler. Here it is;

 

 

http://flashmirrors.com/files/ugktgfvaugvbst1/Forex_goiler.rar

 

 

So again. Lets get back on topic "new member with something bad to say"

Edited March 5, 2013 by bonnie12345
not

[bonnie12345]

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/EFS1/elam-forex-system1/495715

 

Hi hankt80. Looks like they deleted this one?

 

 

When they verify the other account I may start to pay more attention.

 

 

Can I also ask about your previous posts on Elam?

 

 

If you go here: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/20737-FAUCON-Forex-System?highlight=elam

 

 

You state what the picture says. Can you elaborate a little more on this subject please?

 

 

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8757/20737fauconforexsystem.jpg

 

 

In this thread: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/20045-Beware-of-this-scam?highlight=elam

 

 

You state what the picture says. Why the sudden change in heart? Why subscribe if your heart is telling you something? Please explain.

 

 

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3809/20045bewareofthisscam.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To all in this forum. I ask all members (not the newly registered ones) who are with the Elam system to step up and tell us how good ( or bad ) the system and signals really are.

 

 

I have absolutely no bias at all, I only know what I know about them ;) If they are great, then tell us about them and I may give them another shot.

 

 

 

However I will tell you that there are people from FAUCON who are promoting ELAM and I know for a fact that they are run by the same people in France, yet if you actually contact them and ask them, they simply deny it.

 

 

However I ask members to step up and give their experiences in this thread. Good or Bad, it does not matter.

 

 

These forums are about sharing your thoughts and experiences with other like minded members so that we can improve our knowledge and understanding of what is great and what is trash out there.

 

 

 

:x

Edited March 5, 2013 by bonnie12345
some love given ;)

[Guest pipbust]

Hi hankt80. Looks like they deleted this one?

 

 

When they verify the other account I may start to pay more attention.

 

 

Can I also ask about your previous posts on Elam?

I

 

If you go here: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/20737-FAUCON-Forex-System?highlight=elam

 

 

You state what the picture says. Can you elaborate a little more on this subject please?

 

 

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8757/20737fauconforexsystem.jpg

 

 

In this thread: http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/20045-Beware-of-this-scam?highlight=elam

 

 

You state what the picture says. Why the sudden change in heart? Why subscribe if your heart is telling you something? Please explain.

 

 

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3809/20045bewareofthisscam.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To all in this forum. I ask all members (not the newly registered ones) who are with the Elam system to step up and tell us how good ( or bad ) the system and signals really are.

 

 

I have absolutely no bias at all, I only know what I know about them ;) If they are great, then tell us about them and I may give them another shot.

 

 

 

However I will tell you that there are people from FAUCON who are promoting ELAM and I know for a fact that they are run by the same people in France, yet if you actually contact them and ask them, they simply deny it.

 

 

However I ask members to step up and give their experiences in this thread. Good or Bad, it does not matter.

 

 

These forums are about sharing your thoughts and experiences with other like minded members so that we can improve our knowledge and understanding of what is great and what is trash out there.

 

 

 

:x

 

You ban this elam from your forum wwi and you said that it´s a scam and here you said you are waiting for a real review ....lol. This guy bonnie promote only his forexgoiler with mj and if you guys are not happy with his indicator do not say this in his forum because he Will bann you from his forum wwi like he did with me.... And don't worry he is an expert detective to suspect you of an affiliate or something like that....

I'm struggling like many members here to make pips in forex so i believe just in myfxbook results. You don't stop to criticize this elam why? At least they have a verified myfxbook and your goiler show to us your myfxbook if you are a real trader

[newbie111]

I don't know about the politics over there at wwi, but bonnie and MJ seems like a couple of pretty nice people to me. They seem to help anyone in need, and that is what's most important. As for the Goiler indicator, If you don't like it, then don't use it, but please stop with all the attacks and mud slinging. I remember a few years ago when I first joined here.

 

This forum was the place with the most beautiful people in the world. With the kindest hearts, and willingness to help anyone in need. Now I have seen over the years that it has slowly been tainted. Let's try to pick our home forum up and back where she was before.

 

II was at one time the greatest forum in the world, but now it has become more a hangout for those whom take, take, and never with any intentions of giving back. And more than anything the breading ground of hate, jealousy, malice, and criticism. We really need to do better.

Edited March 6, 2013 by newbie111

[bonnie12345]

This guy bonnie promote only his forexgoiler with mj and if you guys are not happy with his indicator do not say this in his forum because he Will bann you from his forum wwi like he did with me....

 

 

You really don`t have a clue do you?

 

It is not me that is criticizing your system it was hankt80. Re-Read the thread post again.

 

 

 

I don't know about the politics over there at wwi, but bonnie and MJ seems like a couple of pretty nice people to me. They seem to help anyone in need, and that is what's most important. As for the Goiler indicator, If you don't like it, then don't use it, but please stop with all the attacks and mud slinging.

 

 

pipbust is the owner of Elam BTW ;)

 

He was banned from WWI and he was also banned from this forum. Is it all making sense now? :-?

 

 

Time to move on pipbust.

 

 

Let the oldest members here speak about your system.

[Guest pipbust]

You really don`t have a clue do you?

 

It is not me that is criticizing your system it was hankt80. Re-Read the thread post again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

pipbust is the owner of Elam BTW ;)

 

He was banned from WWI and he was also banned from this forum. Is it all making sense now? :-?

 

 

Time to move on pipbust.

 

 

Let the oldest members here speak about your system.

 

Lol you use the same words to suspect and to ban members like in your forum wwi in which you sell your products and you banned elam by yourself and now you said it´s banned from wwi . You need to be honnest and say "i banned elam" and not " it's banned".

Guys, Iam not here only for attack but this guy who

Attacked hankt80 because he was not agree with him Will do the same with a y members who criticize his product...anyway

 

Please guys give your reviews of elam os we could all have an idea about it

[bonnie12345]

Lol you use the same words to suspect and to ban members like in your forum wwi in which you sell your products and you banned elam by yourself and now you said it´s banned from wwi . You need to be honnest and say "i banned elam" and not " it's banned".

Guys, Iam not here only for attack but this guy who

Attacked hankt80 because he was not agree with him Will do the same with a y members who criticize his product...anyway

 

Please guys give your reviews of elam os we could all have an idea about it

 

I give up!...............Please DO continue to keep harassing me and probably annoying other members with your useless NON thread specific posts.

[Guest FloridaTrader]

Please continue bonnie, pipbust forgot one of our forum rules and has departed us.

 

Thanks bonnie!

[swoff1]

I think I already commented on this progrduct. I purchasced it , and its a completed failure. I dont know about the scam or no scam, but its worthless Edited March 7, 2013 by swoff1

[hankt80]

I think I already commented on this progrduct. I purchasced it , and its a completed failure. I dont know about the scam or no scam, but its worthless

 

since you have it can we see the charts with the indi in action pls. Why is it useless? ELAM myfxbook doesnt show its useless, it actually performs well http://www.myfxbook.com/members/EFS1/elam-forex-system/478862

TIA

[newbie111]

Yes you are right, I asked some guys to crack it, they can give you most of the softwares including AV's, OS's like windows, linux you name it they have it but they couldnt crack it, so if what others on donna forum and other forums say was true and it was just some cheap repack scam he wouldnt have brains for this kind of work on the dll. Now I have NJ short trade going +90 pips so far from hes signal.

He also told me hes getting rdy for myfxbook so maybe it is actually genuine vendor....

 

Sounds great hank, and no worries, skepticism is a good quality in this game, and we all have doubts about this, but from what you report, I am very interested now. Are you placing any real trades after these good signals from elam? Or just demo for now? If what you say is true, then we owe the vendor of elam a huge apology. Any man whom can't admit when he's wrong has a **** load of work to do on self reflection and improvement.

Edited March 8, 2013 by newbie111

[bonnie12345]

Great to see an actual topic on elam! I see they have now verified the myfxbook account also. So like hankt80 stated last time I will come back in one year to this thread and see how they are getting on ;)

 

I know the results posted on hes web are different than hes fxbook stats but still there is NO solid proof that it is a scam, hes making money trading and you can clearly see it on fxbook, hes signals also seem to be profitable, 10 days bonnie lol 10days means nothing, try 1 year than give us ur feedback.

 

Only kidding and no offense hankt80, everyone has differences (that`s what makes us unique) ;)

 

 

It will be interesting to hear from the older registered members (not the newly registered members) about their experiences with the indicators / system and with the trade copier signals.

 

 

So if anyone is getting trade signals from the trade copier please post them. These should match up with the myfxbook account.

 

 

To buy something, we don`t want talk (which is all I have seen from every forum the vendor has been in), we want actual proof that it works. Same as everything else in life.

 

 

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Edited March 8, 2013 by bonnie12345
spelling

[bonnie12345]

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Seeing as we are getting no responses to this thread, here is a little nugget that I have never showed anyone, in any forum.

 

 

 

I would also like to ask all Moderators to keep this thread alive and to not delete it upon the Vendors request, because the truth hurts and I want as many people to see what I have written so that they can share their own thoughts and views on what I have divulged

 

 

 

So grab a coffee and arm yourself like Sherlock Holmes...

 

 

 

Once you have read the post below and re-read it again you will begin to understand where I am coming from.

 

 

 

Please take your time over the information and please feel free to tell any other people, in any other forum, what has been written here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Exhibit A -

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http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8993/exhibita.jpg

 

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=*elam-forex-system*&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=160982284359&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

 

Previous feedback shows elam has sold VFX - just scroll down to the date Jun-10-12 15:55

 

"Fast service!! Great seller!!!

Member id jtmaffeo Jun-10-12 15:55

MetatTrader indicator *VFX SYSTEM* Best Forex Trading system No repaint (#160788224140)"

 

 

Also note the spelling of Metatrader ( MetatTrader ) as above for now...........

 

 

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Exhibit B - note the spelling of Metatrader ( MetatTrader ) as above

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http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6850/exhibitb.jpg

 

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=*new-trading-system*&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=261180262818&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

 

Ebay member "new-trading-system" sells VFX SYSTEM

 

 

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Exhibit C - note the spelling of Metatrader ( MetatTrader ) as above

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http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8775/exhibitc.jpg

 

VFX SYSTEM -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MetatTrader-indicator-VFX-SYSTEM-Best-Forex-Trading-system-No-repaint-/261180262818?pt=US_Personal_Finance_Tax_Legal_Soft  ware&hash=item3ccf8e89a2

 

Ebay member "new-trading-system" sells VFX System

 

 

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Exhibit D - note the spelling of Metatrader ( MetatTrader ) as above

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http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4289/exhibitd.jpg

 

Faucon System -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MetatTrader-indicator-FAUCON-Forex-System-Best-Forex-Trading-system-No-repaint-/251238300471?pt=US_Personal_Finance_Tax_Legal_Soft  ware&hash=item3a7ef83b37

 

Ebay member "newforextradingsystem" sells Faucon System

 

 

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Conclusion

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All 3 IDs from France on ebay.

 

 

Three different sellers but some sold the same goods (ebay ID "elam-forex-system" sold VFX under this ID).

 

 

Who is the owner of the systems?

 

 

All sellers have the exact same spelling mistake for MetaTrader ( MetatTrader ) - what are the chances of 3 "different" sellers getting the same spelling wrong? Could it be the same person? No, surely Not!

 

 

I am pretty sure if it was my system being sold by another party I would be suing them in court!

 

 

Or are these simply the same people........

 

 

 

 

The Evidence suggests..........Make your own mind up

 

 

 

 

Simply go to ebay and have a snoop round and see what you can find on these

 

 

 

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Some random forum reviews

 

http://www.donnaforex.com/forum/index.php?topic=7145.msg221971#msg221971

- under the scammers and cheats section

 

http://www.donnaforex.com/forum/index.php?topic=6990.0

- under the scammers and cheats section

 

 

 

Someone elses review -

http://forex4code.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/elam-forex-system-review-and-free-download/

 

 

 

http://www.forexisbiz.com/showthread.php/6721-%28Blacklisted%29Elam-forex-system

 

 

 

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Always the same MO with all forums:

 

 

Vendor Starts the thread and gets called a cheat, he retaliates with myfxbook.

 

 

(Incidentally the signals from the Elam system Indicator do not match 100% the trades taken on the myfxbook site.)

 

 

Each time someone has something good to say about Elam it comes from an IP address in France (very spooky)

 

 

Where are all the people that have bought this system hiding? A mere few have something to say?

 

 

If it is truly an amazing system, and every purchaser is happy, then where are they?

 

 

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And as my good friends in France would say, the Pièce de résistance!

 

 

 

 

http://www.faucon-forex-system.com/pricing/

- (or the pricing page if moved) - right mouse on one of the plans and open in new page

 

Then keeping both pages open, make a new page and go to

 

http://elam-forex-system.com/?page_id=522

- (or the pricing page if moved) - right mouse on one of the plans and open in new page

 

 

Keep adding plan options (I went for all of them!)

 

 

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Exhibit E - video of above can be downloaded below -

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http://flashmirrors.com/files/1y7bud8dc2p1w8k/exhibit-E.rar

 

 

 

Video should play here:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OM2kgMGtU

 

 

 

In the PayPal screen What do you see? Who are you paying?

 

 

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Exhibit F - If unable to view the video

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http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4678/exhibitf.jpg

 

 

Just one person called "[email protected]" who is obviously getting paid for both systems.

 

 

You can check this name in the decoded elam ex4 file here

 

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3031/exhibitg.jpg

 

 

Elam forex decoded here -

http://flashmirrors.com/files/0cuatwhjwnfohtj/exhibit-H.rar

 

 

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If this is not enough proof to prove Elam & Faucon are the same then I don`t know what is

 

 

 

All the members promoting Elam have stated that Elam is not Faucon / Votro / Vfx etc etc etc

 

 

 

Tip to vendors / scammers.................You should always be straight and upfront about your products.........

 

 

......If you lie about this, then what else are you lying about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

So now that we know that the vendor is a liar what do you think about Elam and its services?

 

 

 

 

Can anyone with an elam indy (paid for) verify the similarities?

Try the "scalping" mode in false and attach it in the window underneath the "scalping" true?

Can the indy signals be verified with the trade signals sent out?

Are the trade signals the same as their myfxbook account trades?

Have I now bored the pants off ya with my posting ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS..... don`t even get me started on Votro.....Yes Elam and newforextradingsystem has sold the

Votro system in their feedback (look again at ebay) and yes it looks like a modified MBFX Timing also ;)

 

 

 

Is Elam just a modified "MBFX Timing" length set to approx 14 or above and the Vostro / Votro indicator?

 

 

 

 

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8024/elamvostrombfx.jpg

 

 

&

 

 

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2240/elammbfxvotro.jpg

 

 

 

 

mmmmmmmmmmmmm.............a system based on a few variables changed from mbfx timing for all products?

 

 

Who could imagine that someone could re-badge and re-package the MBFX system Timing indy with a few minor tweaks?????

 

 

 

 

Which leads to another topic. Can the Elam and other systems they sell be created by the use of the indicators that I have supplied?

 

 

 

You may have to tweak those indicators to suit but I think it could be done without actually having to buy their systems.

 

 

 

The indys and all other files are located here: pass=myusername

 

 

 

http://flashmirrors.com/files/bte2imuybjbthme/Elam-Faucon-Votro-Vostro-VFX.rar

 

 

 

 

Anyway. I am just one Judge in this whole process. The Jury can decide what happens next.

 

 

 

 

Any feedback much appreciated

 

 

 

 

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[juicyt]

Damn.. Í'll give you a THANKS just for the effort of your findings and your huge @ss post. Well done!

 

jt

[tryitagainmf]

I am not a MT user but have to give you HUGE props bonnie for your posting here!

 

Now, if we could just clean up the other ongoing scams currently rolling in the Forum...

 

Cheers!

 

Mick

[Guest FloridaTrader]

Another reason why bonnie ROCKS!

[mtuppers]

yes another note, if elam owner and the seller are different person, then I am sure that elam owner will tell ebay to remove the auction.

 

that is what the owner did asking for black list on other two sister forum I know.

[newbie111]

Thank you bonnie, you are truly amazing.

[hankt80]

bonnie only shows us that elam gives good signals, thx and no I dont see how it is a scam, it gives good signals so how it is a scam?

[bonnie12345]

bonnie only shows us that elam gives good signals, thx and no I dont see how it is a scam, it gives good signals so how it is a scam?

 

 

 

Believe what you want to hank and keep on plugging them to your mate(s). The evidence is overwhelming on them.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

 

 

"A confidence trick (also known as a scam) is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence. A confidence artist is an individual operating alone or in concert with others who exploits characteristics of the human psyche such as dishonesty, honesty, vanity, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, naïveté, or greed."

 

 

This is how I and many others consider the word "SCAM"

 

 

So yes - They are scammers, con-men, cheats, liars...............Do I need to go on?

[pardy]

I tried their copytrade trial for 10 days just to see. Made losses on demo for those 10 days of around 500 pips. To be fair, some of the signals that had gone into profit for as much as 70-80 pips were eventually closed at losses, at s/l being hit. Overall, I think with high s/l, it is quite possible to get a trade into profit, but good trading signals should get you out in profit as well, which this one did not do. Not the advertised 90 pips a day unfortunately.

Pardy

Edited March 14, 2013 by pardy

[bonnie12345]

I tried their copytrade trial for 10 days just to see. Made losses on demo for those 10 days of around 500 pips. To be fair, some of the signals that had gone into profit for as much as 70-80 pips were eventually closed at losses, at s/l being hit. Overall, I think with high s/l, it is quite possible to get a trade into profit, but good trading signals should get you out in profit as well, which this one did not do. Not the advertised 90 pips a day unfortunately.

Pardy

 

 

 

Same as me Pardy. If you read an earlier post of mine I had a similar issue. There are discrepancies between trades / signals sent out and the trades / signals that are displayed on myfxbook. This included their "exit" signals, as the ones on myfxbook never matched the ones sent.

 

 

Basically the myfxbook account is nothing more but a front to lure members in. If the signals sent and the "elam indicator" signals do not match the myfxbook account then there is something wrong somewhere...........

 

 

 

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