Guest JDNeeman Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hello, i would like help with an autotrader for NT that trades CRUDE OIL, and looks to be doing good, also there is an exe file that contains some indicators used in the schooloftrade.com website. if you could please help unlocing them (fixing)!! it will be a benefit to all.!! http://www.mediafire.com/?vhnav727nv2v166 http://www.mediafire.com/?ndr6do547fmsg28 http://www.mediafire.com/?3rg93nua6oabbq4 Cheers.!! cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energetic Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 any back test results ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ osijek1289 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Backtest results would be interesting. The URLs off their home page aren't working, which I suspect is due to the globe-wide GoDaddy outage. I thought it was interesting that the smallish FLV video on the homepage talks about an autotrader making $1500/month - that is actually quite small for an autotrader that presumably looks for (futures) trades every day, or, there are many losing trades thereby wiping out profits, and potentially giving losing months along the way too - I am thinking mostly of CL when I say that, and perhaps that's not what the $1500/month references - to get that amount with crude, there would likely be some biggish loser days, which would be quite disconcerting to anyone with a < $10-15k account. EDIT UPDATE: OK, I see the scalp/swing/daytrade specific URLs that link off the above site are back online now. But, the guy's not updated the blog/examples in 2 years. Very unimpressive, and at minimum indiciative of 1) extreme laziness 2) complacency and/or 3) trading failure. That aside, what is there, is hardly impressive: entries, if wrong, with what look like big SLs, could be costly, to a real $CL trader. IMHO, there's little overall impressive with this outfit, and I'd not expect much from the strategies. And BTW, if you've never traded $CL, it can quickly become an account killer. Things like time of day for entries are incredibly important, ie., oil pit hours volatility can be huge; frankly, I can't imagine putting any automated strategy on $CL, unless you've got a mid 5-figure account size. I'd just googled reviews for this site and there seems to be a fair amount of negativity on much of what it offers. I won't document any of that here, as we presumably wait for john.maddog's magic. :) Edited September 11, 2012 by osijek1289 reflam and tradernate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JDNeeman Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Totally Agree, but we it is good to test the script instead of pay $4000 for it....and also the indicators could be a very good addition---!!!! cheers. it seems that the blog sidewaysmarkets.com is from the same guy and there he took trades on real time and real account, it seems!!!.... Cheers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.maddog.doe Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Patched DLL for SOTM@sterIndica7orsStr@tegies: http://[email protected]/file/omf6jv I don't see any protection in the JJFl3x and JJM@jorSwingN3w. tradershare, tradernate, ⭐ osijek1289 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JDNeeman Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 John a big Thanks to your job here helping the community...really thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradernate Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 JD....I second your thoughts on what John has done and how hard he works....AMAZING JOB! John a big Thanks to your job here helping the community...really thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradernate Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Has anyone tested this to see if it is worht it? If so, please give us an update... Totally Agree, but we it is good to test the script instead of pay $4000 for it....and also the indicators could be a very good addition---!!!! cheers. it seems that the blog sidewaysmarkets.com is from the same guy and there he took trades on real time and real account, it seems!!!.... Cheers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pequemec Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This is my first post. Hello everyone and please do not ignore me. I am looking the strategy settings they do you can obtain the results as impressive as those published here: h77p://www.schooloftr@de-review-@[email protected]/ Strategy settings (date 06.27.2012) do not work well. Can someone post current settings? Cheers .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaron Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 if you need to change the settings every couple months means the system sucks and is curve fitted (optimized for current market conditions which you will never know when changed..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ osijek1289 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 @omaron is right. IMO the systems here have worked because the markets were more or less ranging during those months. Yes, that is what markets do, much of the time. BUT, things like CL can and do drop from $115 straight to $100. They then consolidate. Then, another drop from the $90's to $~75, as happened this year. I don't see results for those periods on that page (I did not dig deeper admittedly). Some strategies can do well in ranging markets, but when 10%, 20% corrections happen, or news bombs occur, many can't adapt. And the stoploss potential can be big. The other thing I don't see mentioned is account size to trade CL, GC or even TF. Minimum to carry a position overnight - which these strategies very likely need to do - is $4.5 to $5.6, per contract. If it is in drawdown, that is an additional account drain. IMO, one can't dream of trading any of these with less than $10k per 1 lot. Many of these factors aren't considered in backtesting. Also, what about your N!njatrader integrity, ie., power to your PC, VPS, likelihood of the session not crashing, and being on for months and months and months. And, what if you do have to exit NT and restart? Does one know what the strategy will do with a position? But, when one has real money on the line, it is difficult to see drawdowns of over $1000, not knowing where or when a stoploss or trade exit will be taken by the strategy, and then seeing your account down by 10%+, and expecting the strategy to fix it. In short, it is difficult to explain this, until you put real money down, and then you through a very slow and mind-numbing nail-biting period, watch your money controlled by something you basically have no confidence in, or knowledge about how it works. Throw in news bombs, shakeouts, time-of-day events, and, the reality is few can handle watching their account get thrashed. ⭐ Meow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pequemec Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 If someone is kind enough to post the settings for various periods for could to analyze the robustness of the parameters used and which ones are amending. This would help when making our backtest and walk-forward analysis. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gavetso Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 somebody have the orginal patched files? to reup ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightPresident Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 reminder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admis Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 reminder... ...concerning what? orginal patched files? to reup ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightPresident Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 ...concerning what? orginal patched files? to reup ? Looking Temp to trade manual or workspace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightPresident Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Post Patched file with temp or workspace ..... Thnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie0101 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Don't have what you are seeking but here are the I believe original ckd files, at least all I found, SOT *did not ck on my side* http://www.sendspace.com/file/ofjv45 Edited January 23, 2014 by newbie0101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightPresident Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Don't have what you are seeking but here are the I believe original ckd files, at least all I found, SOT *did not ck on my side* http://www.sendspace.com/file/ofjv45 Thnx newbie. But doesnt have all indicators still looking a full patched. newbie0101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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