pgpb Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hello there I am also a hedgehogger. I am new to this forum (not new to forex). I would be interested in keeping in touch with others who have paid for the course. I have a few spreadsheets my wife has developed for keeping track of trades and quickly calculating the entries. I would be happy to share them. I am guessing I am too new to be able to PM PGPB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyMoney Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Until you get 15 posts no PM'ing. I'm still working my way up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtclove Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 wow, alot of us hedgehoggers here, anyone want to make a skype room for people with the hedgehog course? It would be great to pass ideas that way :) DJX00701 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJX00701 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 New Hedge Hogger here, also -- BRAND new, so still learning. Would also be interested in a Skype room, if anyone else wants... Good idea, xtclove! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Surely there must be a kind soul here willing to share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyMoney Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Has anyone created a skype room yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ musketeer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Does anyone have any other normally range-bound pairs you wish me to add to my list of watch list? Time and energy permit, I will try to keep running the trial and report back every now and then. NZDJPY is my favorite for grid-ing... you may try if you wish stijjn and ⭐ dukeaugustus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Please share. Is it not what this forum is for, to give a little back when we can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxeasy5 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Over there on FF negative reports have been posted. The hedgehog is not profitable (for all), looks more like a scam now. Gordon didn´t answer e-mails for some time because his main PC crashed. In the meanwhile he has paid the ref-commission. Edited July 4, 2011 by fxeasy5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyt Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Interesting... I'm sure people here could verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ musketeer Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 perhaps silence is answer too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxeasy5 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Interesting... I'm sure people here could verify. Yes, I verify that it is not profitable ( for me ). The 1-year refund guarantee is nonsense. You have to record trades like a monkey in order to "qualify" for the refund and I doubt you will get it because "the master" could find mistakes in your trading and refuse to refund you. Again money thrown out of the window, I am done with buying systems and EAs. Too many scams. ⭐ dukeaugustus and ⭐ musketeer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ musketeer Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 fxeasy5, sorry to hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyt Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Maybe share what you have fxeasy5 and then people can take a look and see if there is anything worth taking from it. Maybe a system that does work can be created from it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If it is a scam, then he is quite clever. No hyped up marketing bringing in lots of buyers quickly, just a slow and steady stream of buyers who happen to stumble across his system. They the agree to non disclosure, so the system does not get shared and does not actually get talked about much. This means it takes a lot longer for the system to be realized as a scam. Assuming it is a scam, and had i bought the system, I would now post it everywhere so no one else has to be duped into buying it. You can start by posting the vids here :) Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If it is a scam, then he is quite clever. No hyped up marketing bringing in lots of buyers quickly, just a slow and steady stream of buyers who happen to stumble across his system. They the agree to non disclosure, so the system does not get shared and does not actually get talked about much. This means it takes a lot longer for the system to be realized as a scam. Assuming it is a scam, and had i bought the system, I would now post it everywhere so no one else has to be duped into buying it. You can start by posting the vids here :) Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgpb Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Some thoughts on this. 95% of traders lose, and they go from system to system trying to find the Holy Grail. They try a system for a while and then jump to something else, and then try another and then jump to something else, and time goes on and they are in the same place. As to whether or not this vendor is running a scam I will not comment. I bought the system, I tried a few variations of it, and with each variation there are pros and cons. With each variation I was able to have a successful week. Interestingly my wife, who has no trading experience tried a few variations and with each she was unable to make it work. So choosing how to trade and when to enter and when not to is obviously important. I am still demo trading it. I am using a very basic variation with no "bells or whistles", and this week is looking to be successful. Of course time will tell. I have read on forex factory that people are trying to test it with an EA, this has severe limitations, (IMHO) I don't think you can just throw a trade on any old time without doing a bit of research. I spend a few minutes looking at the market before deciding whether or not to trade a certain pair. I plan to demo trade the heck out of the system. It only takes a few minutes a day. I view this system as a tool in my tool box. If I move this to a live account it will be after I have very thoroughly tested it. I did sign the non disclosure and I certainly will not violate that. I am doing so, not out of respect for the vendor, but out of respect for my own personal integrity. I have found time and time again, that it is not the system it is me. A good trader can make a bad system profitable and a bad trader can make a good system unprofitable. If the Hedgehog is not for you, no problem. I am also trading other systems as well. Everyone is responsible for their own success. Ask yourself where you will be 1 year from now, still searching for the right system.......or doing the hard work. I am not saying the Hedgehog is profitable long term, but over the last 4 weeks I have experimented with variations of it, and only one variation did not work out. I hope this message is not interpreted as an attack....I just wanted to share my thoughts. Best wishes PGPB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Didn't know I have a system....... LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyt Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I don't care what anyone says, that non-disclosure form along with any is a lot of rubbish. Same when you buy a pdf book or system and you are not to share. "Sorry family, I am rich now but can't show you how to do it". Yeah right. I guess when I buy a book from the book shop, I can't let anyone else read it? If someone wanted to share it, they would PM or Email it to someone and let them share it. It's very obvious people just do not want to share it, because they don't want to share it. Thats what some people are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Yeah it bugs me that people are on this forum, but not willing to share. Obviously they're here just to take then. Another thing that bugs me is this 95% of traders lose BS. For how many more years am i gonna have to listen to this marketing rubbish. This has been beaten over and over into traders minds by any marketer trying to sell a system that people now just believe it. Why does nobody ever talk about the report which puts the figure of losers at 80%. Or the one that was done at Oanda and shows that the ratio of winners to losers with an Oanda account is more like 50%. It's because these figures don't sell systems as well. Wake up people, your own personal chance of being a winner is 50% because you only have two choices. Either you're going to put in the time and effort to learn and keep learning until you start winning, or you're not. It's that simple. Another thing, in any profession ongoing education is vital if you want to continue your growth or increase your income etc. I know of extremely successful traders who use this forum to get and look at new systems. We are not jumping from system to system and staying in the same place ( something else marketers like to say), this is how we learn. The new system might have nothing to teach us, but every now and then we may come across a good idea that can make the slightest difference in our trading. Sorry for the little tantrum :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatsheetandmultiply Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Yeah it bugs me that people are on this forum, but not willing to share. Obviously they're here just to take then. Another thing that bugs me is this 95% of traders lose BS. For how many more years am i gonna have to listen to this marketing rubbish. This has been beaten over and over into traders minds by any marketer trying to sell a system that people now just believe it. Why does nobody ever talk about the report which puts the figure of losers at 80%. Or the one that was done at Oanda and shows that the ratio of winners to losers with an Oanda account is more like 50%. It's because these figures don't sell systems as well. Wake up people, your own personal chance of being a winner is 50% because you only have two choices. Either you're going to put in the time and effort to learn and keep learning until you start winning, or you're not. It's that simple. Another thing, in any profession ongoing education is vital if you want to continue your growth or increase your income etc. I know of extremely successful traders who use this forum to get and look at new systems. We are not jumping from system to system and staying in the same place ( something else marketers like to say), this is how we learn. The new system might have nothing to teach us, but every now and then we may come across a good idea that can make the slightest difference in our trading. Sorry for the little tantrum :) Spoken from someone whom is obviously NOT in the 5%. Obviously if you were successful then you would spend all your time to create the info to teach everyone for free right? Get real bro. People work hard for a living and your justifications on why they should be stolen from is never going to sit with me. Edited July 1, 2011 by eatsheetandmultiply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesnel1 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Spoken from someone whom is obviously NOT in the 5%. Obviously if you were successful then you would spend all your time to create the info to teach everyone for free right? Get real bro. People work hard for a living and your justifications on why they should be stolen from is never going to sit with me. Lol, i'm sorry but i wont be lowering myself into a debate with anyone who calls themselves eatshitandmultiply and still uses phrases like "Get real bro". Believe whatever you want....bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgpb Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 hey dukeaugustus I have taken the training with Gordon. I traded this last week with a 50 pip tp and a 150 pip SL I may have been "lucky" but I had no losses. I was careful and only traded pairs that looked like they were going to range within my stop losses. I used a few indicators to line this up for me. (yesterdays high and low, and also the last 60 bars high and low (on a 4 hour chart) If the pair was very close to either extreme, I did not trade it. I only entered 8 trades, and came out on top 750 pips (this is demo because I am still getting my feet wet with this, and I am also trading other stratagies demo and live) (The reason I did not come out with 800 pips is at the end of the week I was in a very small profit on my last side, so I closed it out with about 10 pips, rather than the 50 of the target I would like to PM you about some other refinements but I do not have enough posts to PM anyone. PGPB ⭐ musketeer, DJX00701 and ⭐ dukeaugustus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayTrader2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If anyone is interested in exactly what the Hedge Hog Bi Directional style of trading is, just google ; "Awesome" auto-trading robot by SteveHopwood Make sure and read the PDF, that's Hedge Hog in a nut shell..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxeasy5 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If anyone is interested in exactly what the Hedge Hog Bi Directional style of trading is, just google ; "Awesome" auto-trading robot by SteveHopwood Make sure and read the PDF, that's Hedge Hog in a nut shell..... I hope you don´t mind that I disagree. The PDF "Awesome-Forex-Trading-Strategy" is not the Hedge Hog. In fact, it has nothing to do at all with Gordon´s Hedge Hog. It is a completely different idea and system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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