(REQ)Tradonator or Tradocash please see amzing backtest and live statement

[ton0302]

Hi everybody,

anybody here have Tradonator or Tradocash from this site

 

hxxp://www.tradomat.de/automatische-handelssysteme-/die-cashmaschine.html

 

backtest shows potential winner and they have live statements showing substantial profit too

 

Live statements here

 

hxxp://www.tradomat.de/tradocash-tests-und-results.html?ff401db306abad90c701cce48dee249c=deb52b383c8dc254c542c2afc54f1b1f

 

Thanks

[⭐ fxknight]

$25,000 account with -$19,000 floating DD.. hmmm

[forexmacc]

$25,000 account with -$19,000 floating DD.. hmmm

 

Yes, you just took it from my mouth. Nothing great here, just another pyramid/grid counter trend or a crappy loser in general.

[ton0302]

Yeah sure but please download statement below from one of my successful clients who is trading a variation of this EA in M1 chart, I have his investor account and statement is from history of live trading and not backtest.

 

hxxp://[email protected]/document/Y37CtRcW/Trading_Machine_M1.html

Here's summary of trades

 

Gross Profit: 431 001.40 Gross Loss: 265 512.40 Total Net Profit: 165 489.00

Profit Factor: 1.62 Expected Payoff: 9.34

Absolute Drawdown: 18.00 Maximal Drawdown: 43 284.80 (6.60%) Relative Drawdown: 6.60% (43 284.80)

 

Total Trades: 17711 Short Positions (won %): 16668 (70.69%) Long Positions (won %): 1043 (34.13%)

Profit Trades (% of total): 12138 (68.53%) Loss trades (% of total): 5573 (31.47%)

Largest profit trade: 476.00 loss trade: -434.00

Average profit trade: 35.51 loss trade: -47.64

Maximum consecutive wins ($): 293 (34 111.60) consecutive losses ($): 104 (-22 078.40)

Maximal consecutive profit (count): 34 111.60 (293) consecutive loss (count): -22 078.40 (104)

Average consecutive wins: 7 consecutive losses: 3

 

 

$165,489 net profit in one month, with only 6% drawdown, I think that's acceptable enough

 

what do you guys think, I know this is extreme scalping and many traders don't like that style of trading, including me (I like mid to long term trading EAs with lots of Technical Analysis), but somebody is making money out of this EA (and we should too) and that's the bottom line, no matter how crappy or "wild" an EA may seem making money will always be the bottom line... in forex trading "the end always justifies the mean"

[zizi101]

€ 4,99 Demoversion from this here:

http://www.4traders.de/shop/software.html?PHPSESSID=e174d3a1e1c647b544391548073d7233

[iwjw]

For the german speaking members here is a thread about the tr@don@tor:

http://www.4traders.de/community/forum/mm_forum_pi1/beitraege//tradonatorR_cash_eurusd//1.html

[pro]

Its a suicide system: http://tradocasheurusd.mt4stats.com/

[ton0302]

Thank you all I'll post results here so that everybody can benefit from it whether it's good or bad I'll let you know...

[ton0302]

Will not use different system

 

Its a suicide system: http://tradocasheurusd.mt4stats.com/

 

Thank you for your reply but I will not be using the system like the one posted in mt4stats. My client has been trading with it's variation with success. No multiplication of lots no martingale, just trading with fixed lot on M1 chart

[⭐ fxknight]

Thank you for your reply but I will not be using the system like the one posted in mt4stats. My client has been trading with it's variation with success. No multiplication of lots no martingale, just trading with fixed lot on M1 chart

 

In this case lets not mix apples with oranges. Can you post your friend's EA variation version so we can take it for a spin. Otherwise with the original version we are going nowhere since it is a huge risk to trade it. If your friend wants to manage with it or sell it or whatever.. then we know what he's after ;)

 

Cheers

[Csh-flow]

Look to the trades of hxxp://[email protected]/document/Y37CtRcW/Trading_Machine_M1.html is wrong.

3835352 2010.05.31 14:30 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23194 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.20

3835354 2010.05.31 14:31 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23177 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.40

3835357 2010.05.31 14:32 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835360 2010.05.31 14:33 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23169 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.20

3835362 2010.05.31 14:34 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835365 2010.05.31 14:35 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23164 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 -0.80

3835368 2010.05.31 14:36 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835369 2010.05.31 14:37 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23170 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.60

3835372 2010.05.31 14:38 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23171 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00

Look to this trades...

SCAM

[metalriff]

Its a suicide system: http://tradocasheurusd.mt4stats.com/

You realize this is a nano acct right?

[ton0302]

Hmmm not sure what you mean

 

Look to the trades of hxxp://[email protected]/document/Y37CtRcW/Trading_Machine_M1.html is wrong.

3835352 2010.05.31 14:30 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23194 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.20

3835354 2010.05.31 14:31 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23177 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.40

3835357 2010.05.31 14:32 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835360 2010.05.31 14:33 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23169 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.20

3835362 2010.05.31 14:34 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835365 2010.05.31 14:35 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23164 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 -0.80

3835368 2010.05.31 14:36 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23174 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 3.20

3835369 2010.05.31 14:37 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23170 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.60

3835372 2010.05.31 14:38 sell 0.40 eurusd. 1.23171 0.00000 0.00000 2010.05.31 14:41 1.23166 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.00

Look to this trades...

SCAM

 

Not sure what you mean my friend, statement was not sent to me I personally saved it from mt4 terminal which was logged in with investor account and password. If there is an eror then it's mt4 error but I can see it trading live and statement is definitely very real...

[ton0302]

Yup

 

You realize this is a nano acct right?

Yup it's nano...but still, it's a valid basis for trading micro or standard account

[wollek]

Dear friends,

its nice for me to see that my EA tradonator®-cash has reached this forum. I am the owner of the Tradonator / Tradomat websites and the creator of the EA's there, and the main product of me is the tradonator EA from which you speak here.

Just to let you know, its no martingale concept, its no grid system, its no scalper and if you follow the manual, its no suicid system. The m1 system, which you spoke about a bit higher in this thread is a account from vpe bank in germany, traded by myself. Its crashed a few weeks before because a spike in data from the provider. It was no nano account, but a demo. Another Demo of my system you find here: http://www.mt4i.com/users/tradomat/stats (this is M15, startet with 200000 and 0.4 Lot, now trading with 1Lot) and here

http://tradonatorcash2.mt4stats.com/ (this is a 10000 Demo account traded with MoneyManagement since 1.4.2010 from my partners www.4traders.de) , both accounts are being let alone doing their things, not at least because thats no real Money. If you want to see a live account with real money, watch here: http://tradocashpro.mt4stats.com/ (this is the latest version , Tradonator-Cash-Pro, which is coming soon, on a cent account at lite forex, which had a history from three month with tradonator-Cash GBPUSD till 18.7.2010.). I have a lot of specialized versions running on professional live accounts with "big money", and they all work fine. The main thing to run this EA is not to get greedy. Small Lot Sizes, enough big account and nothing will happen. The EA doesn't close group of orders with loss. He only makes loss, if you don't have enough money and your broker sells your positions. And, you have to keep an eye on it, but we are working hard to make it more safe... Keyfeatures of the new version are: Trading with the trend and auto hedging functions, lots of pairs tradable and lot more... Feel free to contact me for more information:-) www.tradomat.com

 

regards, wollek

[halcyonn]

"auto hedging functions" smells like a rat in any case and so does enough big account and nothing will happen.

 

what's good for the goose is good for the gander.account size shud not matter for a winning system or winning ea.

[zhangzhou666]

anyone can share this ea?

[forexmacc]

"auto hedging functions" smells like a rat in any case and so does enough big account and nothing will happen.

 

what's good for the goose is good for the gander.account size shud not matter for a winning system or winning ea.

 

Very prompt input, 100% agree.

[sidecona]

Dear friends,

its nice for me to see that my EA tradonator®-cash has reached this forum. I am the owner of the Tradonator / Tradomat websites and the creator of the EA's there, and the main product of me is the tradonator EA from which you speak here.

Just to let you know, its no martingale concept, its no grid system, its no scalper and if you follow the manual, its no suicid system. The m1 system, which you spoke about a bit higher in this thread is a account from vpe bank in germany, traded by myself. Its crashed a few weeks before because a spike in data from the provider. It was no nano account, but a demo. Another Demo of my system you find here: http://www.mt4i.com/users/tradomat/stats (this is M15, startet with 200000 and 0.4 Lot, now trading with 1Lot) and here

http://tradonatorcash2.mt4stats.com/ (this is a 10000 Demo account traded with MoneyManagement since 1.4.2010 from my partners www.4traders.de) , both accounts are being let alone doing their things, not at least because thats no real Money. If you want to see a live account with real money, watch here: http://tradocashpro.mt4stats.com/ (this is the latest version , Tradonator-Cash-Pro, which is coming soon, on a cent account at lite forex, which had a history from three month with tradonator-Cash GBPUSD till 18.7.2010.). I have a lot of specialized versions running on professional live accounts with "big money", and they all work fine. The main thing to run this EA is not to get greedy. Small Lot Sizes, enough big account and nothing will happen. The EA doesn't close group of orders with loss. He only makes loss, if you don't have enough money and your broker sells your positions. And, you have to keep an eye on it, but we are working hard to make it more safe... Keyfeatures of the new version are: Trading with the trend and auto hedging functions, lots of pairs tradable and lot more... Feel free to contact me for more information:-) www.tradomat.com

 

regards, wollek

 

tradocashpro(dot)mt4stats(dot)com = a 14k account with 9k drawdown... it aint something to be proud of....

We can all make EA's without stop losses that seem to "never" (pah) loose!

[wollek]

tradocashpro(dot)mt4stats(dot)com = a 14k account with 9k drawdown... it aint something to be proud of....

We can all make EA's without stop losses that seem to "never" (pah) loose!

 

Lol, did you ever read the manual? Did you understand the system? As i wrote above : "and if you follow the manual, its no suicid system", you have just to read. I don't know who makes the stat's which you show, but iam sure he hasn't read the manual or stolen the software, so...good luck.

 

But it's ok, i just want to explain the facts with my post... Share and try, if you get it, and get lucky :-) It would be easier to buy a demo for 5 Euro, and try it WITH manual, instead to read stupid stats from people who didn't. Is that easy?

 

regards, Wollek

[gctex]

Was there a manual posted for this?

[ramliam]

Dear friends,

its nice for me to see that my EA tradonator®-cash has reached this forum. I am the owner of the Tradonator / Tradomat websites and the creator of the EA's there, and the main product of me is the tradonator EA from which you speak here.

Just to let you know, its no martingale concept, its no grid system, its no scalper and if you follow the manual, its no suicid system. The m1 system, which you spoke about a bit higher in this thread is a account from vpe bank in germany, traded by myself. Its crashed a few weeks before because a spike in data from the provider. It was no nano account, but a demo. Another Demo of my system you find here: http://www.mt4i.com/users/tradomat/stats (this is M15, startet with 200000 and 0.4 Lot, now trading with 1Lot) and here

http://tradonatorcash2.mt4stats.com/ (this is a 10000 Demo account traded with MoneyManagement since 1.4.2010 from my partners www.4traders.de) , both accounts are being let alone doing their things, not at least because thats no real Money. If you want to see a live account with real money, watch here: http://tradocashpro.mt4stats.com/ (this is the latest version , Tradonator-Cash-Pro, which is coming soon, on a cent account at lite forex, which had a history from three month with tradonator-Cash GBPUSD till 18.7.2010.). I have a lot of specialized versions running on professional live accounts with "big money", and they all work fine. The main thing to run this EA is not to get greedy. Small Lot Sizes, enough big account and nothing will happen. The EA doesn't close group of orders with loss. He only makes loss, if you don't have enough money and your broker sells your positions. And, you have to keep an eye on it, but we are working hard to make it more safe... Keyfeatures of the new version are: Trading with the trend and auto hedging functions, lots of pairs tradable and lot more... Feel free to contact me for more information:-) www.tradomat.com

 

regards, wollek

 

so the SL here is the margin call from the broker??

[wollek]

"so the SL here is the margin call from the broker??"

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very finally - it is, yes...but you have made a mistake then (not enough money, lotsize to big).

In few words the strategy is to make a order in a direction which is indicatetd by a mathematical formula or a Trend indicator, what can be succesfull and take the profit. If this happens - fine, if not - doesn't matter, it does the next order in both cases with the next candle. With the time you get some orders in long direction and some in short direction. It calculates a take profit for the shorts and for the longs (average +x). Because Forex goes allways up and down, it makes allways profit in long term, may be with deep Drawdowns between, but finally ...Profit. Every trade brings the tp target nearer to the actual price, mathematical model. A stopploss would be contraproductiv in this situation. But its possible to set one and work with one. There are a lot of tactics you can use while trading with this ea, because that you need a manual and a good explanation of the system. Set and forget would not work here. There is no programm which can do that, nowhere. Point. But if you understand the system and you are able to use your head from time to time, you can be very profitable with this system.

Once again, watch this statements, both accounts are managed by myself:

http://www.mt4i.com/users/tradomat and this one

http://tradocashpro.mt4stats.com/

The second link is a "still unready" Version with Auto Hedge functionality and Trendsystem, which is not for sale yet. But its on a live account (liteforex, cent account) and should represent the reallity. No lot words, no promises, just the truth.

 

regards, wollek

[zhangzhou666]

anyone can share this ea?