rmbpmendes Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Re: woodie robot Also, for those who complain that backtesting is very slow, try using the Control Points model instead of Every Tick. It's not as accurate but at least you get some result. It looks like the statements that were posted were from testing using the Control Points model too, based on the red colored text. I wouldn't do that... I've experienced major differences between the two models... And when I say major they were really major... With Control Points I would have good profits but with Every Tick my account almost gets to zero. :o Another thing... Some EA trades the same no matter what timeframe you use and you can see that when you backtest with Every Tick Model, but when you backtest with Control Points the results differ. So don't think you will have 1000% profit when you use Control Points... Confirm with the Every Tick model because it might be just 2%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ birt Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: woodie robot How closely does it follow the renowned Woodie strategy? I'm not familiar at all with the Woodie strategy. If you are, just run it in visual mode and check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: woodie robot Here is the website from it : http://fxtraderu.ru/ekspertss/392-woodies-the-robot-new.html *Translated by google from russian to english : Professional, automatic trading system is top class, designed based on well-known indicator of Woodies CCI, platform MetaTrader4. Expert shows best results at all time intervals and in all currency pairs. The new version added a fourth pattern of entry and exit from the market resulting in increased profitability by 20%. The option of using money management with the interest rate risk from free cash on deposit or switch to a fixed-size lot. Added filter. Judge not picky on the spread, the same works on a fixed and plavayuschem.Tak same and no matter in which the terminal and from which broker to use this system, the system works everywhere. For use in the terminals with 5 digits after the decimal point to change the setting as described in the instructions. Currency Pair: All, select any available in the terminal (recommended in the instructions) Time frame: All recommended 15m, H 1, H4, D 1, on a frame over H4 profit level and the level of stop-loss is better to increase by another 100-150pp. The following is published two reports on the tests for the last month on the same instrument and for the same period of time, one was included in the settings fixed a lot at risk of another as a percentage of available funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ birt Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: woodie robot The following is published two reports on the tests for the last month on the same instrument and for the same period of time, one was included in the settings fixed a lot at risk of another as a percentage of available funds. It does indeed perform very well during that period (18.03-19.04 I believe), yet unfortunately it's the only such period, which leads me to the conclusion that its profitability during that month was caused by a lot of curve fitting. Testing it on the months before that and after that leads to rather poor results, even though it is profitable in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: woodie robot I wouldn't do that... I've experienced major differences between the two models... And when I say major they were really major... With Control Points I would have good profits but with Every Tick my account almost gets to zero. :o Another thing... Some EA trades the same no matter what timeframe you use and you can see that when you backtest with Every Tick Model, but when you backtest with Control Points the results differ. So don't think you will have 1000% profit when you use Control Points... Confirm with the Every Tick model because it might be just 2%. I agree that Every Tick should also be used to confirm with the results that you get using Control Points. If you check the developer's/vendor's own statements, you'll see the text in red that says "Control points (a very crude method, the results must not be considered)" but in Russian. i.e. the developer/vendor used Control Points in presenting/marketing his own product, which is a surprise given that it clearly states in bright red that "the the results must not be considered". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⭐ fxknight Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: woodie robot It does indeed perform very well during that period (18.03-19.04 I believe), yet unfortunately it's the only such period, which leads me to the conclusion that its profitability during that month was caused by a lot of curve fitting. Testing it on the months before that and after that leads to rather poor results, even though it is profitable in some cases. You are right birt. It is highly curve fitted and when it extends past this period it performs poorly. The author "Yanin" is a very talented programmer but he has a history of producing curve fitted EAs which look good in backtest so he can sell them. Good marketing I suppose but not good for the user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon8261 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Re: woodie robot Does anyone have a translation of what all the settings in the EA and indicator files do. I am trading this blind on a demo and live account very successfully so far but only on default settings need to understand and configure it. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minami Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot I am testing this on live account" FXDD". so far, GBPJPY, GBPUSD, is good. (GBPUSD is very nice and stable) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot wat other pair minami? how long have u been on live account using this ea? how much roi do you get and how much risk? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot I am testing this on live account" FXDD". so far, GBPJPY, GBPUSD, is good. (GBPUSD is very nice and stable) ;) which timeframe? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minami Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot Both GBPJPY?GBYUSD?Time flame is 15M. GBPUSD is moving much stable. I am testing from 8/25. 20 win/6 lose. :) I am praying this EA is not curve fitting..... ^:)^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot sorry. dont get it here.. how can it be curve fitting if you forward test it? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Re: woodie robot Both GBPJPY?GBYUSD?Time flame is 15M. GBPUSD is moving much stable. I am testing from 8/25. 20 win/6 lose. :) I am praying this EA is not curve fitting..... ^:)^ Hey I put it on all pairs, and it does not trade on cable at all on Alpari NZ. do you use the default settings? on which broker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minami Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: woodie robot finimej I am setting is defalt. Broker is FXDD and Forex Metal. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUINERTY2 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Re: woodie robot I'm backtesting this EA, but it's so slow !!! 3 hours of testing for only 1 month of datas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minami Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Re: woodie robot how about try this?? http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2bde7344f3b9805a4c17ca8801618ef72ebaab58f8dfb8e95621d66e282a0ee8 Backtest much faster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clovelly Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Re: woodie robot how about try this?? http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2bde7344f3b9805a4c17ca8801618ef72ebaab58f8dfb8e95621d66e282a0ee8 Backtest much faster... This is the same version that I modified and posted here in this thread on 24Aug ;) . The forward testing of the EA using the default settings however has not been that hot as there are too many loss trades for my comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Re: woodie robot yes, forward testing result is not right. Enligt WCCI rule the trend is upper, and shall be buy, but the robot made sell. somewhat uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: woodie robot Huh?? but when I forward testing it, it looks good but the problem is the lot... first it opened 0.2 lot but suddenly 2 lot but it made profit. Dont know why. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: woodie robot Hi guys, are u sure someone is making it wrong? because it made profit all the time.. already test about a week. It generated 100% using only 0.1 lot in 7 pairs. ;) \m/ thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middx58 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: woodie robot Hi guys, are u sure someone is making it wrong? because it made profit all the time.. already test about a week. It generated 100% using only 0.1 lot in 7 pairs. ;) \m/ thanks Could you please attach version you are using along with "presets" and which pairs Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: woodie robot Hi, version from the first page. the settings are default. nothing changed. the pairs are EU, AU, GU, UJ, UCh, GJ, EA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Re: woodie robot crushbeat, then the answer must be hang on the broker. cause every body is using the version from the first page and default settings. which broker have been demoing this EA on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushbeat Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: woodie robot hello finimej.. I am using Insta Forex. thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finimej Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Re: woodie robot can you please also try alpari UK or alpari NZ? insta Forex a broker that I would not go even if some has gun forced me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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