Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe

[APopovA]

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enjoying:

http://[email protected]/606470

[saendee]

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^:)^ :-bd Many Thank :-bd

[Stormin_Norman]

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do other's find that fractals 4 operates differently on a 4 digit broker compared to a 5 digit broker?

 

i have different results on backtest. does anyone else find that?

[Billy1713006094]

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do other's find that fractals 4 operates differently on a 4 digit broker compared to a 5 digit broker?

 

i have different results on backtest. does anyone else find that?

 

 

Have found that indicator PivotWizard called by Ea did not have 4 or 5 digit capabilities so changed now it should work on 4 or 5 digit broker, if you want to use just replace with this one and compile. Not sure but hope this helps!

[Stormin_Norman]

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are the other indicators ok? i dont think that solved all the 5 digit problems, but it could be a start.

[Billy1713006094]

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Yes look good to me as far as 5 digit goes, I'm wondering about Ea if it is coded for ECN type broker had it on Jade demo and no trades but guess it could be because of non 5 digit indicator, and not familar with ECN type coding requirement.

[Stormin_Norman]

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wonder what the problem is then? cause i get very different results on a 5 digit backtest to a 4 digit backtest.

[Billy1713006094]

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Don't know Norman, running a backtest on Jade Broker from about this time yesterday till now, 4 months done and about breakeven after 54 trades and that is using the provided set file. But my main reason to backtest was to see if it worked, really don't trust the backtest but needed something to go on. Will see how it goes fwd testing!

[Stormin_Norman]

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july results on 4 digits. on 5 digits its about break even.

 

drawdown 3%

http://stashbox.org/595132/eurusd%20june%2009.gif

[manganate]

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Ciao!,

I've just downloaded this and have only had a quick look at the pdf and code.

 

I'm not sure how many ECNs are still 4-digit, but if you use a 5-digit ECN, the slippage should be X10.

 

Most of the ECN code in this ea looks like this:

 

if (ECN_MarketOrder) {
     if (Two_Direction_Trade) l_ticket_0 = OrderSend(Symbol(), OP_BUY, g_lots_1292, Ask, SlipPage, 0, 

0, gs_fractals_368 + "-SC(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_1184, 0, 

Green);
     else
        if (gi_344 != 1) l_ticket_0 = OrderSend(Symbol(), OP_BUY, g_lots_1292, Ask, SlipPage, 

g_price_1924, g_price_1916, gs_fractals_368 + "-SC(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + 

AccountEquity(), g_magic_1184, 0, Green);
     OrderSelect(l_ticket_0, SELECT_BY_TICKET, MODE_TRADES);
     OrderModify(OrderTicket(), OrderOpenPrice(), g_price_1924, g_price_1916, 0, Green);
  }

 

 

However, one section is hard-coded with slippage of 3:

 

if (ECN_MarketOrder) {
     if (Two_Direction_Trade == TRUE) l_ticket_28 = OrderSend(Symbol(), a_cmd_0, a_lots_4, 

NormalizeDouble(l_price_32, Digits), 3, 0, 0, gs_fractals_368 + "-BR(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + 

"%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_436, 0, l_color_40);
     else
        if (gi_348 != li_44) l_ticket_28 = OrderSend(Symbol(), a_cmd_0, a_lots_4, NormalizeDouble

(l_price_32, Digits), 3, 0, 0, gs_fractals_368 + "-BR(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + 

AccountEquity(), g_magic_436, 0, l_color_40);
     OrderSelect(l_ticket_28, SELECT_BY_TICKET, MODE_TRADES);
     OrderModify(OrderTicket(), OrderOpenPrice(), a_price_12, a_price_20, 0, l_color_40);
  }

 

This may be part of the discrepancies reported here.

As I say, I haven't looked in detail, so I may be wrong. X_X

 

Ciao!

[Billy1713006094]

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Nice catch Manganate, changed the 3 to SlipPage, since my broker is 5 digit then SlipPage should be 30 instead of 3 if I understood you right.

[antonius]

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i really appreciate the author, very impressive system

[Stormin_Norman]

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the slippage thing shouldnt effect backtesting though.

[manganate]

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Nice catch Manganate, changed the 3 to SlipPage, since my broker is 5 digit then SlipPage should be 30 instead of 3 if I understood you right.

 

That's right.

I will test this ea soon, but I have a bundle of others to look at first...

[saendee]

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:-bd new dll available in members section :shand:

[Stormin_Norman]

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:-bd new dll available in members section :shand:

 

fingers crossed this corrects the difference between 4 + 5 digit brokers.

 

anyone come across the new .dll?

[saendee]

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enjoying:

http://[email protected]/606470

:shand: can this fractals 3 be used on live account :-bd

[hyperdimension]

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Official one month forward test results:

http://fractals4.mt4live.com/

181 trades in a month with 25% gain.

This looks good.

Thanks for sharing!

[reza_oscar]

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Official one month forward test results:

http://fractals4.mt4live.com/

181 trades in a month with 25% gain.

This looks good.

Thanks for sharing!

 

can you share us max drawdown during this period? :-?

I mean relative drawdown, I can see absolute drawdown in the stat page

tnx :)>-

[saendee]

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I don't know why and i don't know how, but Fractals 3 makes money and is safe.

I think that this one is worth forward testing using presets that are included.

^:)^ any member have fractals 3 to trade live :shand: ^:)^ many thanks in advance :-bd

[hyperdimension]

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can you share us max drawdown during this period? :-?

I mean relative drawdown, I can see absolute drawdown in the stat page

tnx :)>-

 

They're not my results, they're the results that you can see through the official web site:

http://forexbreakthrough.com

 

But I did some analysis in Excel and here is what I found:

 

maxDrawDownPeakValue = 10239.33

maxDrawDownPeakDate = 2009.07.20 23:40

maxDrawDownTroughValue = 9873.35

maxDrawDownTroughDate = 2009.07.21 22:04

maxDrawDown amount = 10239.33 - 9873.35 = 365.98

maxDrawDownAsPercent = 365.98 / 10239.33 = 3.57%

[hyperdimension]

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Compare the official results with Stormin_Norman's results:

 

july results on 4 digits. on 5 digits its about break even.

 

drawdown 3%

http://stashbox.org/595132/eurusd%20june%2009.gif

[hyperdimension]

Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe

 

I don't know why and i don't know how, but Fractals 3 makes money and is safe.

I think that this one is worth forward testing using presets that are included.

 

Fractals 3 was performing poorly in May and June 2009.

http://forexbreakthrough.com/performance/fractals/Fractals-09-Jun-10-DetailedStatement.htm

http://forexbreakthrough.com/performance-review/our-basket-performance/

So they replaced it with Fractals 4. Forward tests look very good so far, let's see how it goes in the next couple of months.

[reza_oscar]

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They're not my results, they're the results that you can see through the official web site:

http://forexbreakthrough.com

 

But I did some analysis in Excel and here is what I found:

 

maxDrawDownPeakValue = 10239.33

maxDrawDownPeakDate = 2009.07.20 23:40

maxDrawDownTroughValue = 9873.35

maxDrawDownTroughDate = 2009.07.21 22:04

maxDrawDown amount = 10239.33 - 9873.35 = 365.98

maxDrawDownAsPercent = 365.98 / 10239.33 = 3.57%

 

thank you for sharing, that's very fantastic reply

:shand:

[MetaCrazy]

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i've compared some of the eurusd trades of the mt4 stats for fractal 4 with those for forex shocker, especially the last account in the shocker home page. you will see that many of the fractal eurusd trades are also shocker trades. they both have 32 stop loss and also about 4-6 pips profit. i think they use very similar logic. most of the fractal 4 trades are these scalper trades.