APopovA Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe enjoying: http://[email protected]/606470 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe ^:)^ :-bd Many Thank :-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe do other's find that fractals 4 operates differently on a 4 digit broker compared to a 5 digit broker? i have different results on backtest. does anyone else find that? Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1713006094 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe do other's find that fractals 4 operates differently on a 4 digit broker compared to a 5 digit broker? i have different results on backtest. does anyone else find that? Have found that indicator PivotWizard called by Ea did not have 4 or 5 digit capabilities so changed now it should work on 4 or 5 digit broker, if you want to use just replace with this one and compile. Not sure but hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe are the other indicators ok? i dont think that solved all the 5 digit problems, but it could be a start. Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1713006094 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Yes look good to me as far as 5 digit goes, I'm wondering about Ea if it is coded for ECN type broker had it on Jade demo and no trades but guess it could be because of non 5 digit indicator, and not familar with ECN type coding requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe wonder what the problem is then? cause i get very different results on a 5 digit backtest to a 4 digit backtest. Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1713006094 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Don't know Norman, running a backtest on Jade Broker from about this time yesterday till now, 4 months done and about breakeven after 54 trades and that is using the provided set file. But my main reason to backtest was to see if it worked, really don't trust the backtest but needed something to go on. Will see how it goes fwd testing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe july results on 4 digits. on 5 digits its about break even. drawdown 3% http://stashbox.org/595132/eurusd%20june%2009.gif Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manganate Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Ciao!, I've just downloaded this and have only had a quick look at the pdf and code. I'm not sure how many ECNs are still 4-digit, but if you use a 5-digit ECN, the slippage should be X10. Most of the ECN code in this ea looks like this: if (ECN_MarketOrder) { if (Two_Direction_Trade) l_ticket_0 = OrderSend(Symbol(), OP_BUY, g_lots_1292, Ask, SlipPage, 0, 0, gs_fractals_368 + "-SC(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_1184, 0, Green); else if (gi_344 != 1) l_ticket_0 = OrderSend(Symbol(), OP_BUY, g_lots_1292, Ask, SlipPage, g_price_1924, g_price_1916, gs_fractals_368 + "-SC(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_1184, 0, Green); OrderSelect(l_ticket_0, SELECT_BY_TICKET, MODE_TRADES); OrderModify(OrderTicket(), OrderOpenPrice(), g_price_1924, g_price_1916, 0, Green); } However, one section is hard-coded with slippage of 3: if (ECN_MarketOrder) { if (Two_Direction_Trade == TRUE) l_ticket_28 = OrderSend(Symbol(), a_cmd_0, a_lots_4, NormalizeDouble(l_price_32, Digits), 3, 0, 0, gs_fractals_368 + "-BR(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_436, 0, l_color_40); else if (gi_348 != li_44) l_ticket_28 = OrderSend(Symbol(), a_cmd_0, a_lots_4, NormalizeDouble (l_price_32, Digits), 3, 0, 0, gs_fractals_368 + "-BR(Risk:" + DoubleToStr(Risk, 2) + "%/" + AccountEquity(), g_magic_436, 0, l_color_40); OrderSelect(l_ticket_28, SELECT_BY_TICKET, MODE_TRADES); OrderModify(OrderTicket(), OrderOpenPrice(), a_price_12, a_price_20, 0, l_color_40); } This may be part of the discrepancies reported here. As I say, I haven't looked in detail, so I may be wrong. X_X Ciao! Quote When mind lingers in one place efficiency is lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1713006094 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Nice catch Manganate, changed the 3 to SlipPage, since my broker is 5 digit then SlipPage should be 30 instead of 3 if I understood you right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonius Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe i really appreciate the author, very impressive system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe the slippage thing shouldnt effect backtesting though. Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manganate Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Nice catch Manganate, changed the 3 to SlipPage, since my broker is 5 digit then SlipPage should be 30 instead of 3 if I understood you right. That's right. I will test this ea soon, but I have a bundle of others to look at first... Quote When mind lingers in one place efficiency is lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe :-bd new dll available in members section :shand: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin_Norman Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe :-bd new dll available in members section :shand: fingers crossed this corrects the difference between 4 + 5 digit brokers. anyone come across the new .dll? Quote "It is inconceivable that anyone will divulge a truly effective get-rich scheme for the price of a book." Victor Niederhoffer (1943–), US hedge fund manager and statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe enjoying: http://[email protected]/606470 :shand: can this fractals 3 be used on live account :-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Official one month forward test results: http://fractals4.mt4live.com/ 181 trades in a month with 25% gain. This looks good. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza_oscar Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Official one month forward test results: http://fractals4.mt4live.com/ 181 trades in a month with 25% gain. This looks good. Thanks for sharing! can you share us max drawdown during this period? :-? I mean relative drawdown, I can see absolute drawdown in the stat page tnx :)>- Quote LAL: Laugh At Life it's too short to be sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saendee Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe I don't know why and i don't know how, but Fractals 3 makes money and is safe. I think that this one is worth forward testing using presets that are included. ^:)^ any member have fractals 3 to trade live :shand: ^:)^ many thanks in advance :-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe can you share us max drawdown during this period? :-? I mean relative drawdown, I can see absolute drawdown in the stat page tnx :)>- They're not my results, they're the results that you can see through the official web site: http://forexbreakthrough.com But I did some analysis in Excel and here is what I found: maxDrawDownPeakValue = 10239.33 maxDrawDownPeakDate = 2009.07.20 23:40 maxDrawDownTroughValue = 9873.35 maxDrawDownTroughDate = 2009.07.21 22:04 maxDrawDown amount = 10239.33 - 9873.35 = 365.98 maxDrawDownAsPercent = 365.98 / 10239.33 = 3.57% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe Compare the official results with Stormin_Norman's results: july results on 4 digits. on 5 digits its about break even. drawdown 3% http://stashbox.org/595132/eurusd%20june%2009.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe I don't know why and i don't know how, but Fractals 3 makes money and is safe. I think that this one is worth forward testing using presets that are included. Fractals 3 was performing poorly in May and June 2009. http://forexbreakthrough.com/performance/fractals/Fractals-09-Jun-10-DetailedStatement.htm http://forexbreakthrough.com/performance-review/our-basket-performance/ So they replaced it with Fractals 4. Forward tests look very good so far, let's see how it goes in the next couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza_oscar Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe [ They're not my results, they're the results that you can see through the official web site: http://forexbreakthrough.com But I did some analysis in Excel and here is what I found: maxDrawDownPeakValue = 10239.33 maxDrawDownPeakDate = 2009.07.20 23:40 maxDrawDownTroughValue = 9873.35 maxDrawDownTroughDate = 2009.07.21 22:04 maxDrawDown amount = 10239.33 - 9873.35 = 365.98 maxDrawDownAsPercent = 365.98 / 10239.33 = 3.57% thank you for sharing, that's very fantastic reply :shand: Quote LAL: Laugh At Life it's too short to be sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaCrazy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Re: Fractals4 -- new Fractals from Fx H0pe i've compared some of the eurusd trades of the mt4 stats for fractal 4 with those for forex shocker, especially the last account in the shocker home page. you will see that many of the fractal eurusd trades are also shocker trades. they both have 32 stop loss and also about 4-6 pips profit. i think they use very similar logic. most of the fractal 4 trades are these scalper trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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