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Their chatroom is quite easy to follow, very clear entry/exit/stop announced and shown on the screen.

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New materials include:

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They are simply unstoppable. Now successfully recruited 1112 student members! When will people learn not to pay for this.

Jeannette said:

"Will you be posting at three places at the same time everyday? 1 at Indo, 1 at FF, 1 at your own blog? Wouldn't that be tiresome and you may give up one day? Why not just stick to ForexFactory as they are strictly against download links and commercial activities. "

Is it your purpose to direct thread followers elsewhere, and discourage posting download links?

I think we've seen this before.

I'm not getting into "mouth battle" anymore. I will post more info as I get them, other than that, you can pick a fight but I'm not going to be responding. This "mouth battle" thing is getting crazy if people cannot stay disciplined and refrain.

I do not pay attention whether the previous MMM thread were closed because of "sharing violation" or because it was turn to "Battle of mouth". All I knew that many good post for learning purpose were deleted along. I do kept some good picture from the previous thread to study.

Yes, but unfortunately even the thread starter choose to behave like that and cannot refrain from "mouth battle". Glad that you started the blog, the learning process will be interesting without distractions.

If they were lucky to find an over 100 pages thread (if not deleted) they still have to open page after page to separate seeds from the wheat.

So you will be offering links to download YTC PAT, MMM videos, MMM templates, and LST indicators at your blog? Knowing that it will not be deleted?

I have not heard from Forum administrators on this matter. To my awareness, the only LINKS that it is inadvisable to post are those of the MMM seminars.

Did the forum administrators tell you or ask you for permission when they deleted the previous thread? If they decide to also delete this thread, will they inform you first?? Did forum administrators ever list down the criteria or rules or specify under what circumstances they will delete this thread? They over-reacted? I don't think so.

Its a simple question, Jeannette. It might help to explain your complex role on this thread.

You have no idea how forums and advertisers work ..... Look beyond the facade of discussion threads and think about what's behind the scenes, the revenue stream, the sponsors, click-through rate, etc. Why forum admin HAD to delete the previous MMM thread, when there are other similar sharing links to other educational firms everywhere on this forum. Why only MMM? Because they over-reacted?

I set up the Blog to make the learning/teaching process easier instead of mixing it in the forum risking that the post or thread could be deleted someday.

 

I hope that next week I could provide the forum with useful pic along with its detail analysis in the blog to prevent it from being deleted as some thread in Indo.

Captain,

I think we have all gone through the terrible experience of having one year's worth of contributions and discussions deleted, all because some people posted the download links. Steveg needs to remind people what to post or not to post. MerchantPrince is testing the limits of forum admin ...... (whether to delete this thread or not)

I know where to find the entire 2011 MMM 4-hour video course (this is one of the newer seminars with good picture and sound), the set of MT4 indicators and templates, several of the tutorials supplemental to the main course (including the 2011 ones), the famous "Granny" video describing how best to count levels, and finally the PDF version of the course, which was offered right here on II some time ago.

Read this for full analysis:

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Captain,

will you be posting at three places at the same time everyday? 1 at Indo, 1 at FF, 1 at your own blog? Wouldn't that be tiresome and you may give up one day? Why not just stick to ForexFactory as they are strictly against download links and commercial activities. Or if I read it correctly, from now on you will only post at your own blog?

Any more webinar recordings Jeannette? Really informative.

If you can afford $329 one-time fee, you can join them during their live sessions. It doesn't make sense for us to keep recording every Tuesdays and Thursdays and post the videos AFTER the sessions. This is live chatroom service, they are talking as the market is moving, you should be there live on the hard-right-edge. For that small fee you also get access to their full training course and daily review videos emailed to you. DayTradingForexLive.com. There's also a members' forum, archived videos, articles, other stuff.

They also have a free YouTube channel,

Here are videos of Chad & Sterling's live chatroom sessions, not exciting educational seminar but just boring chatroom to while away the time. Sterling is better at talking about market makers manipulations in his unique way, after all he claims to have taught this way of trading 3 years ago, even before Steve. Chad however just blatantly copies and repeats after Steve favorite phrases and whatever is in the MMM videos, so we did not record his sessions. Their live chatroom is open every Tuesday and Thursday, Chad hosting London session while Sterling hosting New York session. If you can get hold of their course videos that will be much more informative. The live chatroom recordings are boring and they don't take much trades, just spend time talking to room.

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Get hold of the recent 6-weeks bootcamp series and the BitTorrent link will be very popular.

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Funny, I just remembered that Jim's signature during DMR webinars was "Welcome to another Drift Mitigation Regiment". I think I will design our own website along the lines of "dig harder" the more I thought about it :-)

There is allot of good resources and information out there but very hard to find and I still am not convinced that the FX game is for me. But I still keep trying. 5+ years.

I am expecting to be warned again not to post anymore. The forex game is for you if you switch to education side, earning subscriptions for a living. There are sites such as DayTradingForexLive.com that are re-packaging Steve's materials as their own and teaching at a discount of $329. More sites will show up when these clever businessmen studied the BitTorrent videos and then re-teach at a cheaper price.

My friend is starting his own omNovia live chatroom service (soon to be subscription based) for TradeStation platform users, a niche segment away from mainstream MT4 users. You should consider venturing into forex education after spending 5+ years trying to trade yourself. Eusebio Nanni from MAX Trading System claims to make so much profits from "trading", but still earns a living from teaching the MAX courses. Eusebio is regularly showing up in Steve's webinars and Sunday sessions to tell everyone how many hundreds and thousands of pips he just made yesterday. So instead of struggling another 5+ years trying to trade on your own, why not learn from these guys and switch over to education side.

Paradigm shift as someone said: when everyone is digging for gold, be the one selling shovels. Your steady business will last longer than any of the gold diggers with big dreams. Even when the gold runs out, your shovel business thrives ever more because people try harder to dig. Once I understood that, I am now helping my friend with his live chatroom business launch. Yes, I myself is going into education side. We already have clients on free trial even before official launch. By continuing to talk about M & W patterns and market makers manipulation and stop hunts and false moves, we will help each other grow our education business. Paradigm shift.

A moderated live chatroom where the instructor calls out live trades that you can follow along, with teachings along the way, during active market hours, will capitalize on the missing element in Steve Mauro's business. Steve and his instructors dare not and will not trade live in order to prolong their lecture series (do more homework, learn to fish, use flash cards, etc), and not suffer from real stop outs in front of audience doing what Jim called his cowboys-style high-low drills with his fake demo trading (the "winners" from heavy scale-ins are very impressive though). So the next business offerings will be those sites offering live chatrooms trading Steve's methods during London and New York sessions, as DayTradingForexLive.com are currently doing but they only host Tuesdays and Thursdays. Even then, Chad & Sterling tried not to take trades (various excuses) in order not to lose. But, you get the idea ......

Here is my research on several profitable (to the owners, not the members) chatroom services,

http://indo-investasi.com/showthread.php/17015-Which-is-the-most-profitable-Live-Chat-Room-for-forex

You can learn from these and work out a business plan, incorporating ideas from what you have experienced during your past 5+ years trading. Something will trigger your mind to make money somehow, just not by trading. Just like selling shovels to gold diggers, remember that the only thing consistent in this forex business is regular income from subscription fees. There are guaranteed no stop outs or losers in education business, 100% earnings ...... better than Steve's teaching students 90% winning rate from Market Makers Method, which to most students is the illusion of digging for gold. When Rick or Fred or Tim or Zaim or David put up their hands and say "see, I found gold!" then more people will buy shovels and dig harder, encouraged by Steve's repeating cycles of 6-weeks bootcamp lectures. Interestingly, Steve made wrist bands or bracelets for his students with the words "Trade Strong". My friend joked that we should give out similar bracelets with the words "Dig Harder" for our chatroom clients.

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For those still interested in joining Steve and can afford it, their next 4+1 days live event is on June 23th-27th in New Jersey and there will be a separate online GotoMeeting webinar class (which can be recorded using Camtasia Studio) about 2 weeks prior to that date for international students. CompassFX will as usual be sending out invitations nearer that date.

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Steve will tell you about his two kids (that your fees will help to support) and Zen's brand new maserati. Thanks to all 1080 patrons. Make sure you also sign up for DMR subscription $102.50/mth to pay for Kar, Jim, Kim, Ray's (and very soon Gary) volunteering "hardwork" and "dedication" to "helping" struggling fellow students. Because of students who continued to struggle after paying for the course and decided to subscribe to DMR, these four volunteers/instructors no longer need to trade for a living. The more students that are unsuccessful after learning from Steve, the better for DMR earnings.

It sounds like SM will be out of business in another six months, anyway (after he pockets enough of all the suckers' cash), and then everyone can share everything.

If someone will be kind enough to repost our open letters to ForexFactory and WorldWide-Invest. They are subtly "promoting" Steve Mauro by keeping that M&W thread alive, never allowing more than two days to pass without someone bragging a winner to attract attention.

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Those who knew John's BitTorrent link will download the course free of course, but their business is really in those who CAN afford the fees and suitable for further milking and fleecing. There are currently 5 permanent seeders for the BitTorrent and Steve and Kaci are aware of that link. But the target customers are those who can pay (and not so internet savvy) so the more popular the downloads the bigger pool of willing sign-ups.

I'm not sure how people will take this post ........ but please, don't encourage anyone to trade this system anymore. You are indirectly driving some newbies or those who can afford it to sign up for Steve course and pay $5,150. It is overly expensive and the membership (now over 1080 students) base used to further milk and fleece those struggling to pay additional $102.50/mth subscription to four "volunteers" who conduct the Daily Market Review (or DMR) webinars. Steve now teaches a 6-weeks bootcamp series to hold on to struggling students for as long as he can, preventing them from complaining publicly or giving away all their proprietary videos and materials in fit of anger. The bootcamp is conducted every Sunday, and if they still don't make money, Steve will again teach another 6-weeks cycle. He even hinted he will attend the subscription DMR sessions in order to influence more people to sign up so as not to "miss out" on his teachings. Negative comments and threads are deleted immediately in their private student forum, and all forms of contacts like private messaging or forum email were disabled to prevent mutual discontent and "negativity". Steve and Zen pocketed over $5.5millions in revenue just teaching the same lectures over and over, while the four "volunteers" embark their new education business earning from $102.50/mth subscription fees from the unfortunate pool of fellow students, milking as much as possible from those who still can pay. None of these self-appointed instructors dare to trade live or willing to show their accounts, using all sorts of MT4 demo tricks to awe newbies and advertise for sign-ups. They do that within the pool of 1080 students knowing these people who can afford $5,150 can still pay more ...... and pay more. So lucrative are these fees that another student Gary will be joining the educator ranks soon. The Daily Market Review webinar is conducted after hours and teaches after-the-fact chart setups, constantly revising their level counts due to inaccurate predictions and consistently wrong calls on the levels. Nobody got stopped out during these webinars, and they "knew" exactly what market makers will do during these after-the-fact analysis.

Below is an open letter that should be posted to ALL review sites like ForexPeaceArmy. As more letters are received we will post them here.

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Hi Zen,

I just received new information which I wanted to clarify with you. We know that DMR subscription is $102.50 per month, which is considered a "small" contribution compared to the additional 8-weeks curriculum being taught and daily 1hr webinars conducted before London open. However I was also told that this "small" contribution (works out to be $6.4/day, 4 times a week) is paid directly to the 4 student volunteers/presenters so each received $25 per month. Hence every month each DMR subscriber paid 4 x $25 = $100 + $2.50 (for PayPal fee) = $102.50 total.

Each of the 4 student volunteers/presenters now earns $25/mth from every subscriber. If there were 300 subscribers, then each volunteer/presenter earned 300 x $25 = $7,500 per month. If there were 500 subscribers, then each volunteer/presenter earned $12,500 per month. Based on current student membership of 1064, it is not unreasonable to assume 300-500 have signed up for DMR, since so many have expressed they are struggling with the method.

Given such lucrative compensation for their "volunteering" to help fellow students, do you think the 4 volunteers/presenters ought to trade LIVE cash accounts and show us their actual trading in real-time during market opening hours? All 4 presenters currently showed Demo accounts and explained past trades in Demo charts. Granted they do offer some teachings and genuine fresh knowledge shared, two of them, namely Ray and Kim, do not deserved to be paid this much money for the little effort they put into DMR. Kar and Jim are beginning to sound aloof and all-knowing, albeit after-the-fact chart discussion. Jim in particular took trades in both directions on demo accounts and then presented his teachings using only the winners, by dragging selective winning demo trades from the MT4 account history onto charts to show the arrows and dotted lines. This is not real trading at all. Kar and Kim and Ray had not taken or showed any personal trades the past few weeks, apparently they no longer need to trade to make money, they already well compensated from the DMR subscription fees.

Zen, given this corrupt situation, do you think the 4 student volunteers/presenters are paid too much that they are turning into full-time “educators” than fellow students and full-time traders? If they are no longer personally trading to make money, then they are milking fellow students $102.50/mth in fees that these struggling students cannot yet earn from trading. Do you think that for this huge compensation, they should show us how they can actually make money live real-time during market opening hours and trading from the hard-right-edge?

Thank You.

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Can anyone recommend the current most profitable live chatroom or traderoom for forex intraday 15mins to 4hrs charting style? I'm not too concerned with costs but rather there must be proven track record of live calls in the room.

Adding more pics. I think this is my new hobby collection :-)

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I am using natural cycle trading.

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Thanks. But how is this "natural cycle" method relate to the title of this thread? S.T.A.R. Trading System by Tom Hennessy? Can you explain a little more how we can make use of natural cycle trading with the S.T.A.R videos and tutorials?

You are 100% correct, whats posted here is pretty much old version of the system, the current one is different but you have to buy it otherwise it wont even work cos its coded to the owners PC.

Can anyone show some recent trades pictures using this method? The old version or new version.

Why isn't it possible to watch and discuss the system here with pros and cons?

You are not welcome here. Delete and take your "scam" post somewhere else, start your own thread to post your research. Go away.

No criticisms please ..... if you don't like the materials just discard. Thanks!

See my first post when I started the thread. Never again will I share any iFundTraders prop training materials anymore.

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Their entire prop training program included equities, futures, forex, options ..... essentially making a complete all-round trader. And here at Indo-Investasi we get a glimpse of their materials for FREE. If they don't work, just discard. But if you are more interested in rumors and scandals, if that's what makes you money, good for you guys.

learn forex,go to babypips

We are past the "learning" stage, of course more knowledge cannot be bad. The question is which is the most profitable live chatroom that we can trade with.

been trading a long time and am always looking for the easy(lazy) way to trade . The problem with traderooms is you usually miss the profitable trade and then take the unprofitable trade and because you traded blindly you dont know when to get out because they were right on the last 3 so this one must be right . There is no easy way to trade . You have to use your own charts and learn on your own .

If you know of any other forex live chatrooms besides the above, do let me know. I would like to try them out.

Seems these gurus got it wrong and stopped out when trading live.

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Can anyone recommend the current most profitable live chatroom or traderoom for forex intraday 15mins to 4hrs charting style? I'm not too concerned with costs but rather there must be proven track record of live calls in the room.

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The course is best studied back-to-front. So you start from the last recording and go backwards, because the introduction is too lengthy and basic for most traders. For a trading method with only 3 moving averages and 4 timeframes (and nothing else) the material is quite extensive and comprehensive going back to Oliver's first educational firm (with Co-Founder Greg) in 1994. By the way, I'm a fan of Greg (honest guy), not Oliver (doubtful character). But the material is unrelated to their personality. Enjoy!

Chapter 2: Background and Introduction

Chapter 3: Market's Four Major Ticks

Chapter 4: Market Law#1 The Law of Momentum

Chapter 5: The Four Trading Time Frames

Chapter 6: The Three Analytical Time Frames

Chapter 7: The Three Trading Moving Averages

Chapter 8: Market Law#2 The market never accomplishes anything with just one bar. Follow-through by a second bar is crucial.

Chapter 9: Market Law#3 The 3, 5, 8 Bar Max.

Chapter 10: Market Law#4 The Failed New Low/High Law

Chapter 11: The Three Major Trailing Stop Methods

Chapter 12: The Market's Three Trends

Section III,

Chapter 13: The Trading Patterns

Chapter 14: The Gift

Chapter 15: Reversal Signs

Chapter 16: Market Law #5 The markets biggest moves ignite from its smallest (tiniest) bars.

Section IV,

Chapter 17: The Location Items

Section V,

Chapter 18: Micro Reversal Times

Chapter 19: The News

Section VII,

Chapter 20: The Sideways Break Strategies

Section VIII,

Chapter 21: One Bar (Two Bars) Strategies

Their 2-days Futures course will start next week. Will try to get hold of it ......

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