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@epictetus What version of non-Edu NT are you using? In 8.1.5.2 the DLLs will not load, and give a few errors.

Enable virtualization in your BIOS, and install Oracle Virtualbox. It will allow you to run a completely sandboxed copy of Windows, from within your main windows. That way, you have a master copy of NT installed on your PC that is part of your production and regular use environment, and you can have and create as many separate instances of other Windows sessions, into which you can have different copies of Windows installed, running whichever version of NT you want. Using a Windows 10 edition already made light and customized is the best way to go. https://t.me/software_application/1452 should lead to a file called "Win10 LiteOS 21H2 Pro Gamer19044.1387.iso" which you can use as the install source for your new VirtualBox Windows 10 session(s).

Even if it didn't crash as it loaded up in v8.0.28, it won't work, because it uses newer C#8 coding and syntax not available in the then existing C#5 ninjascript. It just takes 1 line of code, and the whole indicator will not work. It's a shame the NT programmers did this, to save all of a few lines of code. That aside, they specifically say 8.1.5 is required: https://bestorderflow.com/userguide/install/clean-nt8

This is super interesting, and consequential - thanks for taking the time to check this out. I might see if I can get similar results. A big downside though, is that the profitwala version can't connect to Tradovate.

8.0.28 is available via this link. It works completely fine for connecting to a live broker, can handle at least 1 Rithmic connection, and multiple Tradovate, CQG and most other available NT connections. It has full orderflow capability enabled. It's not the latest version, but is MultiPC, meaning you don't need a license, and it's not tied to any one hardware ID. Few people need the newer/newest copies of NT, unless a specific indicator uses some of the modified scripting they've introduced.

They give you credentials to for the "Rithmic Paper Trade" server, which you can connect directly to from v8.0.28 "opened" NT8 found in the thread below. They offer prop "$25K" prop accounts for as little as $59 initially, then $29/month to extend, where you need to make ~$2000, but in ~$167 daily amounts, which takes 12 days, without any losing days. You're getting a proper Rithmic L2 datafeed on all the CME exchanges, and you can trade your way to some money.

Yes, NT 8.0.28-Multi-PC connects fine. They can and will enable L2 on all exchanges.

The definition of the word "Orderflow" includes and implies buyers and sellers. That can be pulled from a datafeed that has level 2 buying and selling quantity, and is displayed in a cumulative delta indicator, footprint chart or DOM. MT4 & MT5 datafeeds don't have that ability: they just stream the price, time & volume and plot it on your chart. The volume you are streamed contains no information about the buys or sells or who the aggressor is. Also, to have a proper view of orderflow, it needs to be a centralized exchange, meaning, exactly one exchange that all the transactions flow through - that's why having the CME/Nymex/Comex to show orderflow of ES/CL/GC works to show a complete picture of all the buying or selling. Forex transactions do not occur on a centralized exchange: there are banks and datafeeds that show a good amount of transactions that they do, but there are clearing houses and exchanges all over the major financial centers of the world, and there's no good way to have a complete picture of how much EURUSD was bought or sold at a specific price. (There are datafeeds that bring various major bank's forex data into one feed, but this gets costly, and, displaying very large actual dollar transactional volume at every pip becomes unfeasible, and generally isn't practical.)

The NT 8.0.28 Multi-PC version allows a Rithmic connection to the Rithmic Paper Servers, which is what TFD uses. But, if it is a dedicated node Rithmic server, those are not in the list built in to NT, and one cannot connect. MT4 is definitely a good option to start, to learn and employ the basics of trading. But NT allows for better and proper charting, along with the benefit of maybe using actual transaction volumes, DOM, footprint, large trades, and other things that proper datafeeds allow for. And they are expensive as a monthly fee, so free or close to free can be a good cost savings. It should also be possible to get trial Rithmic and CQG datafeeds that last 14 or 30 days, and then when requesting it again, use a (free) VPN to have it originate from a different IP address, and use a temporary email where they send you your ID & password.

There's a decent library of indicators on google drive, here:

Using a minimal cost prop trading provider could be an option. And it can serve as an incentive to try and get some form of funded account. There are some very cost effective options out there. Oneuptrader had a $19/month special with a Rithmic datafeed and L2 enabled. (The 'sale' is no longer on.) They call it a $25K account, one can trade up for 30 micros, and try to attain $1500 profit. Another currently cheap option is TheFuturesDesk offering a similar account for $25/month, and then $29/month extensions. They too offer 'free' L2 Rithmic. I'm only offering these as alternatives to paying for a monthly L2 datafeed, with I believe are all over $60. I used to use CQG free trials, constantly renewing them biweekly or monthly, by going to a landing page like this, under a VPN that changed the location they saw I was applying for, and then use different names & email addresses, and you should be able to constantly renew. https://www.ampfutures.com/why-amp/cqg-data-quality Here's that current $25/$29 offer from TheFuturesDesk:

8.0.28 MultiPC with Orderflow is available here:

You have said you are "subscribed to data" and you have called it "live data" but it's unclear which brand or who you bought it from? From Ninjatrader directly? If so, did they not specify how to connect it, meaning, which option to use among all the "Connection adapters" ? Is it live Tradovate data? Ninjatrader will give a live data 2 week demo, but after that, unless you have a brokerage account with them, they will not sell you a data subscription package. Are you paying for a datafeed? But, if you have one of the brands listed under connections of the 8.0.28 version provided in this thread, they will work. Some of that detail from Ninjatrader is found here: https://support.ninjatrader.com/s/article/How-do-I-register-for-data-feeds-for-my-account?language=en_US

I'm in - let's go!