Vathek Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hi sometimes i think that if u have an ea that it really work, the broker study how it works and can put ( it's happen ,) a requote or an increase od spread when you want to entry in the market... os it's safe have your ea in the meta4platform ? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 http://www.tools4brokers.com/products/Virtual_Dealer http://www.tools4brokers.com/clients buschell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Unbelievable but true! It is not enough that market makers manipulate the market, than brokers step in and screw you up personally. VSP are dangerous because brokers have all software tools to make you transparent and control the outcomes. Last trade I had a candle shadow jumped on H1 TF during the night 80 pips - typical SL hunters! They rob you when you sleep. Intraday trading would be better but then the spikes and unexpected reversals kill you also. Therefore, Daily TFs trading without SL is probably the only solution. Hermes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) The only way around this is to (a) hedge (b) hide tp and sl from the dealer © NEVER scalp (d) ...and know how to trade by noticing where the dealer smashed everyone's stops on the chart and trade with him Edited November 12, 2013 by Rio smurf43 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom12983 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 The only way around this is to (a) hedge (b) hide tp and sl from the dealer © NEVER scalp (d) ...and know how to trade by noticing where the dealer smashed everyone's stops on the chart and trade with him Why does the broker want to do this??? Don't they profit from you trading with them using your EA??? I can't understand why they would want to do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Why does the broker want to do this??? Don't they profit from you trading with them using your EA??? I can't understand why they would want to do this! You're being sarcastic, right? Sure they get paid from the spread, or commissions, but they also get paid when they margin your account out -- which is what they don't tell you. Think about it... You give them a pile of money, which they can use to make money themselves... And since they know that most traders lose, they ket you play around on their system with nothing. Tanking your account is the entire business, and it means nothing to them. Look for the MT4 dealer plugins manual. They can mess with the spread, redraw candles on the chart, and they can see where all the aggregate stops and orders are, so they know where to initiate monkey business in order to profit. smurf43 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energetic Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 is this really true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 is this really true? Read it and weep: http://www.scribd.com/doc/171255224/MetaTrader-4-MT4-Manager-User-Guide energetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipdat Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 At least if you are able to make any money you might be able get it out. More than you can say for Binary Brokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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