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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    Tambahan lagi :

    * Dalam salah satu ebook (school of pipsology, silakan cari di 4shared.com) diibaratkan belajar forex seperti belajar di sekolah, mulai dari playgroup, TK, SD, SMP, SMA, Universitas. Dimulai dari istilah, cara trading, money management, sampai teknik trading yang canggih-canggih. Nah, banyak newbie, baru di playgroup kemudian loncat mau belajar pelajaran SMA, gara-gara melihat di forum ada master yang menyebutkan keberhasilan yang didapat dengan suatu metode/sistem. Akibatnya ya keblinger dan stress, mau bisa mau cepat, tetapi belum mampu. Akhirnya yang ada malah menyerah dan meninggalkan forex.

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    Ten Basic Errors of a Newcomer in Trading

    Ten Basic Errors of a Newcomer in Trading


    1. Trading when market has just opened
    Within the first several minutes after opening, the market usually moves about or jumps somewhere abruptly. Experienced traders sometimes try to use their knowledge to forecast by the first market movements what trend is possible. But emotions will certainly play tricks with a newcomer.

    2. Undue hurry in taking profit
    Well, you opened a long position. Then, after a couple of days, you saw how much money you had earned and closed the position with joy. But this movement, as you would have gathered later, was just the beginning of a powerful up-trend. So, if you would not haste, you could earn 10 times more money. Use TakeProfit orders only on extraordinary occasions, when the resistance level is clearly seen. Normally, it is better to exit the market using StopLoss and trailing stop.

    3. Adding lots in a losing position
    This is a reverse example: you opened a long position, but price decreased. You doggedly insist on that "it would still grow, I just opened the position too early" and add by buying more lots. But the price goes on dropping and twices your losses. Remember: You should only add lots to a profitable position.

    4. Closing positions starting with the best one
    If you have some long positions and the price starts to decrease, you often instinctively try to fix your profit first and only then close losing positions (or let it work until the StopLoss triggers). This is a wrong tactics: If the whole market decreases, those positions will most probably lose that have already been unprofitable. But you have already had losses on them. This means you should close them first of all. Better positions will not fall so rapidly and, in case of a reversal, they will go up again. So do not haste to close a profitable position.

    5. Revenge
    A typical situation for a newcomer: A losing position has just been closed - and he or she starts opening new positions enthusiastically to requite the wrongs. This will result in new losses, so do not return to trading immediately after having lost. Rest a little.

    6. The most preferable positions
    Approach reasonably to your positions: Do not care especially for some of them, for example, for those where you bought at the lowest price - every trader is usually especially proud of such trades. It is clear that you are puffed up with self-admiration, but be careful and do not carry such a brilliant position to zero or even to minus.

    7. Trading by the principle of 'bought for ever'
    You were working on a relatively short period of time, opened up, and prices went up tremendously. And you say to yourself: "Aha, I've caught the start of a many years' up-trend", and hang this position "for ever". But things do not just happen: you either change essentially for much longer estimation periods or keep standard rules on your standard short period. Rules that will make you enter and quit the market even if there is a really powerful trend. Do not "marry" your position!

    8. Closing of a profitable strategic position on the first day
    Vice versa, if you trade not within a day, do not close a profitable position on the first day under no conditions. If even the price has been grown to a very high level, be patient: it can be higher tomorrow.

    9. Closing a position when alerted to open an opposite position
    Many trade with systems of continuous entering the market. These systems are always "inside of a position". This means, closing of a long position means for them opening of a short one. One can use such positions, but they must be closed earlier: the signal to close must be of higher priority than the signal to open an opposite position.

    10. Doubts
    You should not trade if you are not sure of your previous situation assessment. Having said to yourself "I'm sick with vague doubts", you should better close all your positions and reanalyze the situation. Or go for a walk. The latter recommendation is actual in all difficult cases, by the way. It helps for all diseases - try it yourself!

    ora ngerti basane ... disadur dari emqi FOUR.. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
     
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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    hi..saya juga newbie di sini...
    saya coba untuk berbagi pengalaman di sini
    semoga bisa berguna

    * emosi, mental, nyali
    rata2 trader itu TIDAK SIAP KALAH (s/l jauh tapi t/p dekat) itu salah satu ciri2-nya
    yg lebih parah lagi udah jelas2 trend berbalik arah tapi masih ngotot dan belum mau close open potitionnya
    yg udah minus, jelas aja makin lama minus makin gede terus margin call, lol.
    menurut saya penguasaan emosi trader itu paling penting. mungkin para sesepuh forum ini bisa menjelaskan lebih lanjut mengenai emosi/mental trading,
    * trader baru yg udah mengenal indicator, ini terjadi pada saya dulu, menjadi maniak indicator, bahkan saya sempat ngumpulin hampir 1000 indicator,lol. apakah saya terus menang dalam trading ? TIDAK, malah kalah dan makin lama makin banyak kalahnya. WHY? karena terlalu mematok pada indicator .

    solusi saya,
    maaf saya juga seorang newbie jadi mungkin solusi saya ngak banyak artinya,
    nguasain teknikal analisis dulu, cari indicator dasar yg sesuai dengan kita (semua indicator itu bagus ngak ada yg jelek)
    dalamin lagi, cari tahu bagaimana caranya, arti garis atau grafiknya, dan efeknya.
    kalau semua basic indicator udah paham baru lompat ke ea.
    yg paling penting adalah stick pada rules waktu trading.....

    semoga aja pengalaman saya ini bisa bantu para trader baru
    :peace:

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    Belum waktunya

    * Seperti Katak Dalam Tempurung - Seperti Pungguk (Katak Dalam Tempurung red.) Merindukan Bulan
    :mrgreen: Kurang memahami kemampuan sendiri.
    Seharusnya prediksi trend dari News & Indi, tetapi karena "pusing sendiri", hanya menggunakan Indi - Sombong kan . Dengan Take Profit tinggi pula. Logisnya kan deposit $50 ya sekali transaksi profit $2 aja cukup kan...
    * Ketamakan terhadap indikator, ea, profit, dll akhirnya "mabuk dech" :ahhh: :sleapy:

    Sekarang: saya hanya transaksi
    1. Pair EurUsd
    2. 2% dari margin
    3. Profit 20 pips
    4. Stop Los none (kecuali komputer off ya 30 pips)
    5. Mengggunakan Forex Stealth & Killer saja
    6. Jika saya yakin : Indi, news, Feel. It's right now
    7. Satu buah, sampai kena TP :sleapy: or SL :? . Baru open transaksi lagi
    8. Open lagi dan lagi

    :mrgreen:

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    Thanks kepada rekan-rekan yang telah menyumbang "kegagalan" dalam thread ini. Semoga bisa jadi tambahan masukan bagi para newbie.

    Tambahan lagi (pengalaman pribadi) :
    * Belum benar-benar mengenal basic forex, sudah langsung trading dgn berbagai indi yang canggih-canggih (maksud hati mau ikut para master, apa daya kapabilitas belum nyampe). Sy sdh coba-coba pakai indi macam-macam, ttp ketika buka buku lagi, baru sadar diri, masalah contract size sama leverage saja masih pakai mikir lama, belum di luar kepala. Belum lagi masalah salah pilih menu di platform, mustinya beli malah jual.

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    hi..ini gua lagi
    hehehehe
    gimana ya, belakangan ini trading gua cenderung minus terus...
    real acc sementara libur dulu tinggal yg demo..
    itu pun susah untuk plus...
    tapi saya ada ketemu indi bagus...ehmmm.... 7RO...
    ada di forum ini...
    untuk sharing aja ya...
    habis gua pakai indicator itu bisa plus lagi...bahkan untuk demo yg lavarage 500
    dari 5000 ketemu 8000 lebih cuma butuh waktu setengah jam...
    heboh ngak?
    cuman indi itu ngak bagus kalau dipakai di waktu ada news....
    thz... indo-investasi........

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    BEBERAPA PRINSIP SUKSES DI TRADING FOREX :
    1. KEAMANAN NOMER 1 : GUNAKAN MARGIN HANYA 1% - 5% DARI TOTAL EQUITY.
    2. JANGAN TERLALU SERING MASUK PASAR, CUKUP 1 - 2 X SEHARI TETAPI PADA LEVEL HARGA YANG DIYAKINI PASTI PROFIT ( DENGAN BANTUAN PARAMETER INDICATOR).
    3. JANGAN TERLALU BANYAK GUNAKAN INDICATOR, AKAN PUSING SENDIRI, CUKUP GUNAKAN MQLPRO & TANGANJIWA/BRAINSTAGE.
    4. BILA GUNAKAN INDICATOR TSB, AMATI PADA TF H1 & H4, BILA CONFIRM PASTI HARGA AKAN NAIK/TURUN = 50 - 100 PIPS / HARI.
    5. JANGAN SERAKAH, TENTUKAN TARGET PROFIT SENDIRI, BILA SUDAH MENCAPAI TARGET TSB HARUS LANGSUNG STOP, LANJUTKAN BESUK HARINYA.
    6. LAKUKAN TRADING SENDIRI atau TIDAK SAMA SEKALI, JANGAN PERCAYAKAN KEPADA PIHAK LAIN YANG HANYA SEKEDAR MENGEJAR OMSET UNTUK MENDAPATKAN KOMISI TRADING SEMATA (USD 50/STANDARD LOT), TETAPI MEREKA TIDAK MEMPEDULIKAN ACCOUNT ANDA APAKAH AKAN PROFIT ATAU LOSS (TANPA PERMINTAAN MAAF)

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH ENGLISH [-O<

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    This is an Indonesian forum. It is completely ok to speak in Indonesian. Try google translator please.
    Ore no Shinka Hikari yo Hayai. Zen Uchi o Nani no Mono Ore no Shinka Chuito Kore Nai.
    Ten no Michi yo Iki. Subete o Sukosadoru Otoko.

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    Re: Kenapa 90% Trader gagal di Forex? (Sharing disini)

    salah satunya punya penyakit jantung

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